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    Whats so good about Deshaun Watson

    Dude has had a top 2 wideout most his career and barely throws more TDs then Daniel Jones. Last season he had 26 TDs 12 picks and less then 4000 yards yet people consider him a top 5 QB that will get close to Patrick Mahomes money. Am i missing something here?
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    He's a black qb. Therefore ESPN loves him.
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    He's had to deal with a **** line most of his career too. He's a special talent and it's a shame the Texans' organization let a top 2 wideout get away with so little value in return. I respect trying to protect Watson with the Tunsil trade, but IMO they gave up too much for him. Also, Cooks isn't as good as people thinks he is and they could have gotten a younger receiver who would likely be just as productive with that 2nd round pick, especially with how deep the WR class was this year.
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    Originally Posted by BigElephant View Post
    He's had to deal with a **** line most of his career too. He's a special talent and it's a shame the Texans' organization let a top 2 wideout get away with so little value in return. I respect trying to protect Watson with the Tunsil trade, but IMO they gave up too much for him. Also, Cooks isn't as good as people thinks he is and they could have gotten a younger receiver who would likely be just as productive with that 2nd round pick, especially with how deep the WR class was this year.
    Stop making excuses. Aarron Rogers has had ****ty lines and still puts up GOAT stats. Watson also likes to hold the ball leading to coverage sacks.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Stop making excuses. Aarron Rogers has had ****ty lines and still puts up GOAT stats. Watson also likes to hold the ball leading to coverage sacks.
    I mean who would you put above him currently? Obviously Mahomes, Wilson, Brees. I think he falls somewhere into that second tier that includes Rodgers, Brady, Stafford, Ryan, Wentz, Jackson, Prescott. But Rodgers and Brady aren't what they used to be. Ryan and Dak have both had a lot of talent surrounding them for a good part of their careers. Wentz is injury prone. Jackson had one good year on a stacked team. I think he fits in well into this second tier as most of these guys are good but also have one or two cons associated with their game. You're right he's not worth Mahomes money, but he's a top 10 QB in the league.
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    definitely overrated but the potential is there. He's also likable

    Originally Posted by BigElephant View Post
    I mean who would you put above him currently? Obviously Mahomes, Wilson, Brees. I think he falls somewhere into that second tier that includes Rodgers, Brady, Stafford, Ryan, Wentz, Jackson, Prescott. But Rodgers and Brady aren't what they used to be. Ryan and Dak have both had a lot of talent surrounding them for a good part of their careers. Wentz is injury prone. Jackson had one good year on a stacked team. I think he fits in well into this second tier as most of these guys are good but also have one or two cons associated with their game. You're right he's not worth Mahomes money, but he's a top 10 QB in the league.
    If the NFL were 7 on 7 or flag football, you may have a good point there about Ryan
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    People remember those 5 weeks his rookie year and still somewhat project him to that.

    He's absolutely up there with the elites, I'd say Mahomes, Wilson, Jackson are top 3 and then is his tier with a few others
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    Originally Posted by BigElephant View Post
    I mean who would you put above him currently? Obviously Mahomes, Wilson, Brees. I think he falls somewhere into that second tier that includes Rodgers, Brady, Stafford, Ryan, Wentz, Jackson, Prescott. But Rodgers and Brady aren't what they used to be. Ryan and Dak have both had a lot of talent surrounding them for a good part of their careers. Wentz is injury prone. Jackson had one good year on a stacked team. I think he fits in well into this second tier as most of these guys are good but also have one or two cons associated with their game. You're right he's not worth Mahomes money, but he's a top 10 QB in the league.
    Mahomes
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    Brees
    Lamar
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    All those QBs are clearly better then Watson. I will give you top 10 at best but he is not top 5
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Mahomes
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    Brees
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    Wentz

    All those QBs are clearly better then Watson. I will give you top 10 at best but he is not top 5
    Had me in the first half.

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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Mahomes
    Brady
    Wilson
    Brees
    Lamar
    Brees
    Wentz

    All those QBs are clearly better then Watson. I will give you top 10 at best but he is not top 5
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    Watson is a great playmaker, problem is he plays WAY to off script, he also takes way to many sacks. He’s the opposite of Drew Brees
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    Lol at thinking players get paid on how good they are. Texans will pay him stupid money because they dont want to go back to tfw no qb trust that
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    you're forgetting he has to deal with Bill Obrien as his coach.

    Only QBs id take over him starting a franchise (meaning Brees/Brady/Rodgers are excluded due to age) are Mahomes and Wilson
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    LOL, how soon we forget...

    That was the first playoff choke job.

    Not the one against KC last year, where he blew an all-time lead.

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    lifetime 101 rating, 24-13 record, yes he had hopkins to work with but he's clearly very good and not 25 years old yet. you have any idea how many teams would kill for somebody like this. also runs the ball very well and added 7 scores on the ground to the 26 in the air.

    top 5 QB already? i don't know, probably in fantasy football. but you can't blame houston for paying him top dog money when the time comes.

    stat-wise one would assume he regresses because will fuller and brandin cooks are no guarantee to stay on the field at all. neither is david johnson for that matter.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Mahomes
    Brady
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    Brees
    Lamar
    Brees
    Wentz

    All those QBs are clearly better then Watson. I will give you top 10 at best but he is not top 5
    Wentz? He’s one average year away from losing his job lmao.
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    Wentz? He’s one average year away from losing his job lmao.
    The Wentz hype is ridiculous.

    Watson is good, but he’s not top 5 good even though he has had a bad o line his whole career and a defense that can give up 30+ any given Sunday
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    there u go
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    Mahomes/Wilson/Rogers are better. He's got a good an argument (him and Brees) to round out the top 5 as anybody else
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    Originally Posted by jimmyjabbar View Post
    Mahomes/Wilson/Rogers are better. He's got a good an argument (him and Brees) to round out the top 5 as anybody else
    Not really.

    Matty Melt would easily be considered top 5 before Fraudson.

    Yeah he did have an all-time choke job in the SB, but it still beats an all-time choke job in lesser postseason rounds.

    What exactly has Watson accomplished besides massively crashing and burning in the playoffs?

    Let the guy at least play competitively in a playoff loss before you put him in the HOF.

    **** even Trubisky did that.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Not really.

    Matty Melt would easily be considered top 5 before Fraudson.

    Yeah he did have an all-time choke job in the SB, but it still beats an all-time choke job in lesser postseason rounds.

    What exactly has Watson accomplished besides massively crashing and burning in the playoffs?

    Let the guy at least play competitively in a playoff loss before you put him in the HOF.

    **** even Trubisky did that.
    Who's putting the dude in the HOF? There are few guys who are actual playoff killers.

    Matthew Stafford? Watson's got better numbers across the board. I dont mind people thinking dudes overrated, but theres only a couple guys clearly better.
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