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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Agree. I am not an expert like most of you guys and I would have thought that Usman would have the clear advantage. One of Masvidal's advantages is that he is calm and not afraid of anyone. IMO, they both have a lot on the line that will set their futures.
    Easy to not be afraid when you're facing guys that are around your level athletically, same size as you, and have less experience (Masvidal has fought at smaller divisions which tend to be more skillful, so moving up he has better skills, and he's been in the game a long time.)

    But with Usman, he's more athletic, looks to be bigger/stronger, and has enough experience to be the current champ. If I was a betting man I would say Usman would win 8-9/10 times if they fought.
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    I just want Jorge to win because of what a nightmare it will be for Dana. Thats why they just re upped his contract, because if he didnt get paid for this fight and was on his old contract and won... lmao the standoff would have been on.

    Dana has a champ who doesnt draw, or potentially a champ that draws but is way too savvy to be controllable.
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    I cant see any outcome, outside of a punchers chance, where Masvidal wins this fight...

    Even with a full camp..
    Usman slightly beats Jorge on his feet
    Usman easily beats Jorge in grappling/wrestling

    Im not on the Masvidal hype train yet. In his last 10 fights he's lost 40% of them.


    and Masvidal is coming in on short notice, with 20 pounds to cut and massive jet lag to overcome. I think Usman is going to use his wrestling and blanket Masvidal. Masvidal is going to have nothing for him because of a 20 pound weight cut.

    If Masvidal wins, I will absolutely tip my hat to him. It would be one of the craziest wins in UFC history..
    I dunno if Usman has the stand up advantage though.

    Before Blackzillians split from ATT those guys trained together, iirc, and Usman's guys didn't want him to take a fight with Jorge.


    I think Jorge can KO/TKO him, the wrestling is what worries me. Usman outgrappled Woodley but on the other hand Jorge fights different...


    I got Jorge by KO/TKO


    If you look up his youtube channel, Jorge has been prepared to fight for Usman for a long time now.
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    I cant see any outcome, outside of a punchers chance, where Masvidal wins this fight...

    Even with a full camp..
    Usman slightly beats Jorge on his feet
    Usman easily beats Jorge in grappling/wrestling

    Im not on the Masvidal hype train yet. In his last 10 fights he's lost 40% of them.


    and Masvidal is coming in on short notice, with 20 pounds to cut and massive jet lag to overcome. I think Usman is going to use his wrestling and blanket Masvidal. Masvidal is going to have nothing for him because of a 20 pound weight cut.

    If Masvidal wins, I will absolutely tip my hat to him. It would be one of the craziest wins in UFC history..
    I agree Usman probably takes it the way you described. Usman does not have the better striking though. That's Masvidal by a mile. Not saying Usman won't have his moments on the feet after Masvidal becomes worried about Usman getting a hold of him but Jorge is one of the better MMA strikers.
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    Originally Posted by PepperedAngus View Post
    I just want Jorge to win because of what a nightmare it will be for Dana. Thats why they just re upped his contract, because if he didnt get paid for this fight and was on his old contract and won... lmao the standoff would have been on.

    Dana has a champ who doesnt draw, or potentially a champ that draws but is way too savvy to be controllable.
    Masvidal needs to be the champ to get his money but Dana doesn't need him to be the champ to be a draw. He can strip him after refusing to fight and let him fight nate again while others go for the belt.
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    Masvidal is arguably the best boxer in the UFC, in any division. I'm amazed to see people giving Usman the edge in a standup fight. What're you, f*cking retarded? Is Usman the greatest MMA fighter in history all of a sudden? I think I missed the memo.

    people are so blinded by champ status every time.
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    Originally Posted by Henry2001x View Post
    Masvidal is arguably the best boxer in the UFC, in any division. I'm amazed to see people giving Usman the edge in a standup fight. What're you, f*cking retarded? Is Usman the greatest MMA fighter in history all of a sudden? I think I missed the memo.

    people are so blinded by champ status every time.
    Lol, ill come back here this saturday and tell you I told you so. Jorge will get dominated in not only the grappling but the standup as well.

    Lol @ thinking a win against Diaz and Askren compares to fighting a legit champ
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    Originally Posted by Henry2001x View Post
    Masvidal is arguably the best boxer in the UFC, in any division.
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    I want a surprise win from Masvidal but don't see it happening
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    Originally Posted by MuslimBrahSwag View Post
    Lol @ thinking a win against Diaz and Askren compares to fighting a legit champ
    I like how you conveniently left out Till.

    The way in which he beat Diaz is also relevant, he completely manhandled him.

    Usman will need to rely on his durability and secure a takedown without getting a muay thai knee to the face. If he tries to win a kickboxing contest he’ll get slept.
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    Masvidal is surely the biggest threat to finish, so long as his power bar isnt drained from grappling. Even if Usman does get a hold of him, I would except Masvidal to get creative with elbows and ****.

    Usman's best advantage is a full camp and strong cardio. He doesn't have the power or fight iq to sleep masvidal like masvidal does to him though.

    Woodley and Covington are all the same boring fighter as Usman except Covington couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag, and Woodley fights like a pacifist monk.

    This is going to be Usman's first fight for a while that isnt a wrestling match.
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    Either one of two things will happen

    - Usman gets knocked the fuk out
    - Usman cruises to a dominating 5 round wrestlefuk finish


    Masvidal can grapple but fuk mane idk
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    Either one of two things will happen

    - Usman gets knocked the fuk out
    - Usman cruises to a dominating 5 round wrestlefuk finish


    Masvidal can grapple but fuk mane idk
    So you're saying either one will win or the other?

    Great prediction Timmy, very insightful.
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    Originally Posted by Captain0bvious View Post
    Bets for tomorow

    Usman
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    Big money is on Yan I think hes got it in the bag. Hoping Jorge wins I just think he has to take the fight cuz if he didnt it would look terrible. but hes a spontaneous guy he may be able to sneak a knee in there and KO usman if he tries to take him down all night
    I have the first three as well, with the addition of Paige. That line is juicy.

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    Yet you pick Paige over Ribas.... Lmao!
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    Originally Posted by Mogambo View Post
    I haven't seen a lot of Masvidal's fights.

    What is still very fresh in my memory is how Usman dominated Woodley in wrestling. Shocking, I don't use that word lightly, performance. I can't imagine Masvidal is a better grappler than Woodley.

    This is one of those fights that we are going to know the result within the first couple minutes. If Usman is successfully control Masvidal in holds, it's a wrap. If Masvidal shows that he can match Usman's strength than it's going to be interesting to see what Usman's plan B is.
    Usman ain't gonna keep going for takedowns if Masvidal's piecing him up coming in.
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    Masvidal has nothing for Usman

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    I'll fap on the spot if Masvidal KO's Usman but it's about as likely as him landing another 5 second flying knee KO
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    Masvidal vs Usman has a real possibility of being another version of Conor vs Khabib
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    Masvidal vs Usman has a real possibility of being another version of Conor vs Khabib
    Where Masvidal wins, right?
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    Originally Posted by PaulAllen1995 View Post
    Masvidal vs Usman has a real possibility of being another version of Conor vs Khabib
    Solid comparison.

    I just think Usman can't smother Masvidal the same way Khabib did, and Masvidal has so much experience he will be able to make some deposits even when in bad positions.
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    Usman ain't gonna keep going for takedowns if Masvidal's piecing him up coming in.
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    I despise both Usman and Khabib.
    No bias?
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    I despise both Usman and Khabib.
    Khabib is protected by God, he will retire undefeated.
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