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    Jorge vs Usman

    Surprised no one brought this up. Assuming they both don't have covid and make weight this makes UFC 251 that much more interesting...

    Who ya guys got?
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    Could go either way but I got Jorge via baptism.

    Usman is not a real champ, he just happens to have the belt right now. Ya there's a difference don't @ me.
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    How can anyone bet against Jorge right now? Should be a great fight.
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    Usman is a monster but Im a Jorge stan so street Jesus by KO
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    Jorge lost to Damian Maia, usman is better than Maia. Usman by 5 RD UD

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    Gambred surely has COVID though, hanging out in florida with no plans to fight. ..
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    One week notice.

    Tons of intrusive testing.

    A super long flight.

    Usman has a crazy hard head so his chances of getting a quick KO are not high.

    Pressure of knowing his star will fall fast if he gets smashed.

    All signs point to him getting smashed or at least layed on for 5 rounds.

    Which is why im gonna crazily say I think Jorge is going to win by KO/TKO... for some reason the universe just loves this guy right now.
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    Masvidal beats Usman
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    I've got Usman by crochet sniff UD but even if my money is on the nigerian nightmare, I would love a spinning elbow KO 1rd round Gamebred just to see what Dana will do
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    I have Masvidal by TKO round 3.

    Hopefully Usman won't be able to hang onto him for long
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    Usman by decision
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    I feel like Jorge is just going to get Damian Maia'd, his only chance is getting a KO on the feet, which is definitely possible. He's a much better striker than Usman but he's tough as balls though.
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    I feel like Jorge is just going to get Damian Maia'd.
    He's a lot more aggressive these days than he was back then. I think he knows he's gotta get a finish or at least hurt Usman early (enough to get into his head and disrupt his gameplan) to have a chance.

    He'll be okay cardio-wise for at least a few rounds but if Usman gets him down early Masvidal might just be in survival mode come the 4th and 5th and not have enough in the tank to put Usman in trouble.

    A full camp would've helped a lot. He would've been drilling a few specific counter attacks when Usman closes the distance.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Masvidal go for a guillotine attempt at some point in the first two rounds.
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    Jorge has nothing to lose here.

    Massive payday.


    If he losses one week notice.



    Usman is taking big risk.



    If Masvidal wins Conor will challenge him to super fight.
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    Originally Posted by Carbonfibre View Post
    If Masvidal wins Conor will challenge him to super fight.
    Conor would not deserve that fight one bit but I could see it.
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    Masvidal would destroy Conor
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    I haven't seen a lot of Masvidal's fights.

    What is still very fresh in my memory is how Usman dominated Woodley in wrestling. Shocking, I don't use that word lightly, performance. I can't imagine Masvidal is a better grappler than Woodley.

    This is one of those fights that we are going to know the result within the first couple minutes. If Usman is successfully control Masvidal in holds, it's a wrap. If Masvidal shows that he can match Usman's strength than it's going to be interesting to see what Usman's plan B is.
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    I'm just wondering if Usman fell in love with his stand up after his fight with Colby and wants to "test himself on the feet" for a bit with Masvidal (which would probably be a bad idea).
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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    I'm just wondering if Usman fell in love with his stand up after his fight with Colby and wants to "test himself on the feet" for a bit with Masvidal (which would probably be a bad idea).
    snoozeman didnt want to test colby's grappling so he went the boxing route. not surprising since colby's stand up isnt really much to talk about.

    jorge on the other hand is the opposite; strong stand up game and can trade punches for days. i dont think usman is going to risk his belt and legacy, so he'll play it smart and wrestle him down. i'm still hoping street jesus gets the win though
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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    Conor would not deserve that fight one bit but I could see it.
    Conor doesn't deserve anything. He's only fought like once during the past 5 years. Retires like 10 times the past 5 years.

    Rumors about big fights like Anderson Silva yet doesn't put any effort in.

    *Okay he's fought Floyd Maryweather, Khabib and Donald Cerrone but still. Just go do some fights
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    Originally Posted by TonyTriangles View Post
    snoozeman didnt want to test colby's grappling so he went the boxing route. not surprising since colby's stand up isnt really much to talk about.

    jorge on the other hand is the opposite; strong stand up game and can trade punches for days. i dont think usman is going to risk his belt and legacy, so he'll play it smart and wrestle him down. i'm still hoping street jesus gets the win though
    Both Usman and Colby thrive on pressuring their opponent and closing the distance to lean on them and drag them down. I don't think either is comfortable off their back and I'm a little surprised neither went for a takedown in that fight, especially Usman being he had the wrestling advantage on paper.
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    Jorge no doubt
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    Jorge hype train going to get derailed by usman
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    Jorge has better hands but Usman will win by wrestlefark.

    Pulling for Jorge though. Hype will be bananas if he wins.
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    I cant see any outcome, outside of a punchers chance, where Masvidal wins this fight...

    Even with a full camp..
    Usman slightly beats Jorge on his feet
    Usman easily beats Jorge in grappling/wrestling

    Im not on the Masvidal hype train yet. In his last 10 fights he's lost 40% of them.


    and Masvidal is coming in on short notice, with 20 pounds to cut and massive jet lag to overcome. I think Usman is going to use his wrestling and blanket Masvidal. Masvidal is going to have nothing for him because of a 20 pound weight cut.

    If Masvidal wins, I will absolutely tip my hat to him. It would be one of the craziest wins in UFC history..
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    If Jorge wins that chit will be bananas, he does seem to have some spiritual help in his corner lately though. Would be a massive victory on 1 week notice with a huge
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    LOL you brahs are beyond high as chit. Jorge stands 0 chance, in the grappling or the stand up. Usman is way too big and way too strong for that guy. Only guys that can touch Usman in this division would be Colby and possibly Woodley if he gets his act together (which I doubt is happening.) Usman's gonna be champ for a long time.
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    If Jorge wins that chit will be bananas, he does seem to have some spiritual help in his corner lately though. Would be a massive victory on 1 week notice with a huge
    Agree. I am not an expert like most of you guys and I would have thought that Usman would have the clear advantage. One of Masvidal's advantages is that he is calm and not afraid of anyone. IMO, they both have a lot on the line that will set their futures.
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    Masvidal flew in elite wrestlers for his camp and Bo Nickal was one of them.

    I might bet on Masvidal..
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