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    Rippetoe a boogaloo?

    Ive always known Rip was right politically and that has never bothered me because left/right politics aren't a big deal to me. But with this whole covid mess he has been expressing farther right views in his podcast. Yesterday (I think they dropped yesterday) he went full Hawaiian shirt extremist (boogaloo), but now those videos have been marked private. Bums me out to know he's a wing nut.
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    Originally Posted by ENCBBQ View Post
    Ive always known Rip was right politically and that has never bothered me because left/right politics aren't a big deal to me. But with this whole covid mess he has been expressing farther right views in his podcast. Yesterday (I think they dropped yesterday) he went full Hawaiian shirt extremist (boogaloo), but now those videos have been marked private. Bums me out to know he's a wing nut.
    All I can say is that I used to laugh at his 'jump' technique for the clean, until I tried it.
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    The difficulty is he likes shooting his mouth off with provocative comments (not saying that makes saying offensive comments OK) so it's hard to know what he actually thinks and what he says to stir up trouble for fun.

    Some comments I read in "Strong Enough" made me expect him not to be racist and he has been pro women's training too. But some things he's said as off the cuff comments in interviews offended me.

    Is it possible to respect someone's work (promoting training, such as practical programming) without agreeing or endorsing all of their personal or political beliefs? Or must we take both as a package.

    I'm not saying we should hide or sweep under the carpet unacceptable things people have said or done, but equally.. finding perfect people who are unflawed under close examination is impossible. We need a balance, at the moment we're struggling to get the right balance on that one.

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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    The difficulty is he likes shooting his mouth off with provocative comments (not saying that makes saying offensive comments OK) so it's hard to know what he actually thinks and what he says to stir up trouble for fun.

    Some comments I read in "Strong Enough" made me expect him not to be racist and he has been pro women's training too. But some things he's said as off the cuff comments in interviews offended me.

    Is it possible to respect someone's work (promoting training, such as practical programming) without agreeing or endorsing all of their personal or political beliefs? Or must we take both as a package.

    I'm not saying we should hide or sweep under the carpet unacceptable things people have said or done, but equally.. finding perfect people who are unflawed under close examination is impossible. We need a balance, at the moment we're struggling to get the right balance on that one.

    Edit: Rips self published erotic novels, that thought is really redefining awful
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    Originally Posted by ENCBBQ View Post
    Ive always known Rip was right politically and that has never bothered me because left/right politics aren't a big deal to me. But with this whole covid mess he has been expressing farther right views in his podcast. Yesterday (I think they dropped yesterday) he went full Hawaiian shirt extremist (boogaloo), but now those videos have been marked private. Bums me out to know he's a wing nut.
    He is a strength coach. It seems odd to care what he thinks about politics.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    He is a strength coach. It seems odd to care what he thinks about politics.
    If his politics don't fall within a narrow set of acceptable boundaries, then we need to protest and get him cancelled and de-platformed. It is the only way.
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    If his politics don't fall within a narrow set of acceptable boundaries, then we need to protest and get him cancelled and de-platformed. It is the only way.
    Pump the brakes for a bit... there is a huge difference between being conservative and being extremist right wing hoping for another civil war fanatic... which is what the boogaloo boys are all about. That is the premise of this thread.
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    Originally Posted by ENCBBQ View Post
    Pump the brakes for a bit... there is a huge difference between being conservative and being extremist right wing hoping for another civil war fanatic... which is what the boogaloo boys are all about. That is the premise of this thread.
    Karl was joking.
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    Pump the brakes for a bit... there is a huge difference between being conservative and being extremist right wing hoping for another civil war fanatic... which is what the boogaloo boys are all about. That is the premise of this thread.
    Well then, Mr Politics, this thread sucks.
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    He is a strength coach. It seems odd to care what he thinks about politics.
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    Originally Posted by ENCBBQ View Post
    Pump the brakes for a bit... there is a huge difference between being conservative and being extremist right wing hoping for another civil war fanatic... which is what the boogaloo boys are all about. That is the premise of this thread.
    So the "boogaloo boys" are an actual thing? I'm so out of the popular culture loop...
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    So the "boogaloo boys" are an actual thing? I'm so out of the popular culture loop...

    Boogaloo started off as a meme. Meaning the sh*tty sequel to the 1st american revolution, using the movie title, Breakin 2' electric Boogaloo as the template. Then the 2A community adopted the term as a way to make memes, jokes, and references about the hypothetical 2nd American Revolution, but later would include anything anti-feds, and anti-gun control.

    The MSM will obviously label them "Far Right Extremists" or terrorists. But in reality, they're pretty much libertarians, hardcore constitutionalists, typically ex military, That hate the direction legislation, and policing have gone.

    In my experience, they're not as much anti-government as the MSM will say, they're anti Un-constitutional legislation or policy. They're very pro 2a because they believe it's a free people's last line of defense against overbearing government. They see the constant chipping away at 2a as a threat to American freedoms. The memes are a non -violent sh*tposting way of showing discontent and the support behind it.

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    Originally Posted by ENCBBQ View Post
    Pump the brakes for a bit... there is a huge difference between being conservative and being extremist right wing hoping for another civil war fanatic... which is what the boogaloo boys are all about. That is the premise of this thread.

    Most of them are pretty much just conservative libertarians with strong opinions on police brutality and big government in general but of course like any other movement you have the extremists who insert themselves into it and give it a bad name.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Years ago if I did watch a Rip video, I did with the volume off.
    My wife refers to him as "that crazy-eyed Texan." He's gotten a lot of people off to a good start. But most of them seem to develop different opinions to his eventually.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    He is a strength coach. It seems odd to care what he thinks about politics.
    Similar to my opinion on singers and their political slants, I may not agree with many of them and think their views are beyond fukked up, doesn't stop me from listening them as I just disregard any & all celebrity opinions on damn near everything.

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    So the "boogaloo boys" are an actual thing? I'm so out of the popular culture loop...
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Similar to my opinion on singers and their political slants, I may not agree with many of them and think their views are beyond fukked up, doesn't stop me from listening them as I just disregard any & all celebrity opinions on damn near everything.



    Same here, I have heard the term but thought it was just someone being funny?
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    My wife refers to him as "that crazy-eyed Texan." He's gotten a lot of people off to a good start. But most of them seem to develop different opinions to his eventually.
    Agreed he has gotten a lot of people to a good start. His style is a little turn-off for me.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Agreed he has gotten a lot of people to a good start. His style is a little turn-off for me.
    He's an ass.

    However, if you listen to his critics, they all seem to forget that the program is called, "Starting Strength." He gets a lot of heat for his coaching on a couple of lifts but he gets that heat from people who have been lifting for 15 years. Everyone knows that a guy with a decade of lifting under his belt is going to develop advanced techniques that have no place in a book called, "Starting Strength".

    Another key point that people miss is that Starting Strength is specifically designed to improve performance and prevent injury in other sports. It is not a program focused on making you a good deadlifter, its designed to make you good at hitting the offensive tackle so hard that you knock him on his ass. There's a big difference. If your goal is to get strong just for the sake of being strong then there are many better programs.
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    Totally true. I got my first training book in 1990 and it was literally the same as Starting Strength. I forget the name but It was sold from the back of bodybuilding magazines. I mean it isn't even impossible that Rippetoe had the same book and basically just rewrote it. I would never have wanted to trade a different book starting out though because it was such a good foundation so I can't rip on Starting Strength. It is the perfect way to start.

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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    He's an ass.

    However, if you listen to his critics, they all seem to forget that the program is called, "Starting Strength." He gets a lot of heat for his coaching on a couple of lifts but he gets that heat from people who have been lifting for 15 years. Everyone knows that a guy with a decade of lifting under his belt is going to develop advanced techniques that have no place in a book called, "Starting Strength".

    Another key point that people miss is that Starting Strength is specifically designed to improve performance and prevent injury in other sports. It is not a program focused on making you good a deadlifting, its designed to make you good at hitting the offensive tackle so hard that you knock him on his ass. There's a big difference. If your goal is to get strong just for the sake of being strong then there are many better programs.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    He's an ass.

    However, if you listen to his critics, they all seem to forget that the program is called, "Starting Strength." He gets a lot of heat for his coaching on a couple of lifts but he gets that heat from people who have been lifting for 15 years. Everyone knows that a guy with a decade of lifting under his belt is going to develop advanced techniques that have no place in a book called, "Starting Strength".

    Another key point that people miss is that Starting Strength is specifically designed to improve performance and prevent injury in other sports. It is not a program focused on making you good a deadlifting, its designed to make you good at hitting the offensive tackle so hard that you knock him on his ass. There's a big difference. If your goal is to get strong just for the sake of being strong then there are many better programs.
    Starting strength is a GPP program. And not the best one at that....

    What turns a lot of people off is the “my way or the highway” method of teaching he employs. We have all seen people fold like a pocketknife trying to do a LBBS, or cringed when someone called OHP “the press” (maybe not everyone, but I sure have).

    Simply put, there is more than one way to OHP, more than one way to squat, more than one way to deadlift. Everyone is built differently and that should determine how you lift, what form you use, among other things.
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post

    Simply put, there is more than one way to OHP, more than one way to squat, more than one way to deadlift. Everyone is built differently and that should determine how you lift, what form you use, among other things.
    Exactly correct and exactly as Ripp says in the intro to Starting Strength.

    Also, why the program is called, "Starting Strength"
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