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    Originally Posted by letshavebabies View Post
    just LOL @ yellow fever crew
    she's a strong 3 out of 10 but thats not why he offed himself, mental illness is no joke and by the look of it he had plenty.
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    Originally Posted by MetroBrah View Post
    dam bros

    This begs the question, do you think there is some kind of 'suicide gene'? as fuked up as that sounds. I mean both sons committed suicide. RIP Reckful. Feel really bad for the parents
    Not sure about a gene but I remember Ernest Hemingway and his family members suicides. Mental Illness I guess ..
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    rip one of the OG streamers. clinical depression is fooked, i have a suicidal friend who suffers from it too. he also had a close friend committed suicide when he was young.

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    im literally just standing here, getting harassed by people saying they are going to get me banned and **** lol

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    lolwut gamers on twitch twitter & livestreamfail reddit are hypocrites. dis not it mane, dis not da way to honor Reckful. tbh dis cancelling chits getting out of hand.
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    Some sad **** bros.

    Dude was a master at what he did and I respect that.
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    Originally Posted by M3lony View Post
    Its his life. Many years ago I was also suicidal. I think its more selfish to tell someone not to end it because he may cause suffering to other people. People have no idea how bad that stuff can be, staying alife for the sake of other people is a ridiculous choice.
    You can bet that he probably tried everything through his life, from different therapies to medications. I honestly think that some people are just fuked and cant be helped. Was just a matter of time with him.
    It's far more selfish to take your own life. I've also been there and what stopped me is the impact I know it would have on my family. Idk if you have kids but imagine raising a child from birth only for them to kill themselves off what some anonymous person online said. You'll probably never find the troll and now your son you raised since a baby is gone, that's a pain his parents will walk with every day for the rest of their lives, whereas reckful has mostly happy moments and we have proof on the internet (and not all of them were at a desk while playing games). Now his parents have emotional stress + financial burden, and will likely be stressing to death about their remaining son. Btw his brother...who is going to doubly feel the pain Reckful claimed to feel all this time.

    When popular people commit suicide there's a tendency for the internet to maintain this full hand-holding "must have been so hard for him" circle-jerk that does nothing to solve the motivation behind or stop future suicide. Just imagine how many people are walking on eggshells with their comments on Plebbit right now.

    The good in his life far outweighed the bad, and that's not a naive observation. The guy was clearly loved far more than not by at least people in the gaming community. My opinion in learning from his suicide is bringing more attention to internet harassment for social media personalities. He had a relationship issue apparently but basically allowed the 0.01% of his social media comments to drive him insane. Usually people have to formulate their own defensive mechanisms for blocking out negative comments. Some discussion/perspective needs to be given on the matter.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    The good in his life far outweighed the bad
    I agree with your entire post, but...this part...
    When people get into their own heads (or let others in) passed a certain point, they can't be convinced that this is true.
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    IcyCat committed suicide too

    Rainbow Six: Siege players should know him.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    I agree with your entire post, but...this part...
    When people get into their own heads (or let others in) passed a certain point, they can't be convinced that this is true.
    Yeah in his own head he was up against the wall for sure. In reality he wasn't. It's all about opening a depressed person's eyes to it. For me it was a very slow process but I'm happy to say I did it without drugs. Not even weed.

    Reckful hardly seemed like a hard case, and I wonder if he ever had productive therapy with a professional regarding his brother. He claimed to have been depressed for 16 years or something over it. I'd say the cases where depressed people explore and exhaust all their options is pretty rare. I think they tend to lean on one or two options to solve their problems and when they don't, they crash hard.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    whereas reckful has mostly happy moments and we have proof on the internet
    come on man, by now it should be pretty clear that whatever you see is not what you get. I respect your opinion but it sounds like you never experienced things like that yourself. Most of the time its the people who seem the happiest, the ones where you expect it the least who are suddenly end up killing themself.
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    Originally Posted by M3lony View Post
    come on man, by now it should be pretty clear that whatever you see is not what you get. I respect your opinion but it sounds like you never experienced things like that yourself. Most of the time its the people who seem the happiest, the ones where you expect it the least who are suddenly end up killing themself.
    I have, I spent 4 years depressed and was suicidal, all while dirt poor and taking care of a person who was handicapped and suicidal himself. And I figured someone would say this but you could just as easily say the inverse. And we saw both sides of Reckful tbh, there's clips of him upset as well.

    There's also this weird aspect of social media where emotion is magnified and perpetuated, thanks to Twitch chat and VODs. You see how it becomes a thing for social media figures to be vulnerable and cry on social media. But Twitch streamers are different even than youtubers. Youtubers present their best and most doctored selves, twitch streamers are on camera for several hours, live, almost every day. Reckful would spend 8-13 hours on his streams.

    Suicide is never ever the answer. Like I said before...his pain is a drop in the bucket compared to his family right now. No offense and I'm not hating on Reckful, I'm just shining light on the unspoken part of suicide which is the chaos and Hell you leave behind when you decide to take your life.



    On a related note, I dont think Reckful moderated his chat much, and it allowed more abuse to get through. He clearly was affected by it in the past and it would have been good if he or a mod recommended to clamp down.

    Some Twitch Streamers are total chat tyrants, which while annoying is very effective at killing trolls. Eventually your followers mellow out and even start defending chat themselves. Trolls are instantly pointed out and banned and it creates a less toxic environment. Compare that to someone like xQc and old Sodapoppin who let chatters have free reign, and that attracts the psycho people.

    Instead, Reckful got seriously wounded and that's honestly tragic. You know those guys knew what pushed his buttons and they did it anyways.
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    Originally Posted by BearyManilowe View Post
    Watched a good bit of Reckful when I had dreams of streaming back in College.

    Reckful
    Duck sauce
    Woundman

    Were my top 3. I watched some Alinity too but that was for other reasons, nahmean?

    Sad to hear man. Read that his brother committed suicide too and that's even more rough.
    DuckSauce was the man until he married that sloot who was engaged to the Brady bunch dude that's like 60 lol.

    I phucking loved his streams first thing in the morning. Alpha dude living in New York walking his dog and slaying pussay.

    Just watched a whole Documentary on Reckful. Had no idea who he was. Seemed like a super dope guy suffering from that rotten disease "Depression". Lived in a high rise apartment, traveled the world, picked up chicks left and right, even had the cliche "High School Sweetheart" and none of that was enough. Dude was making over 30k a month.

    Originally Posted by Purfected View Post
    dude people have known he is suicidal for a long long time and TONS of people have been trying to help him and he has gone to therapy

    what more can people do
    Ironic you get banned for something dealing with Reckful when Blizzard gave him a life time ban for logging into someone else account claiming he was "boosting" it. Then those pieces of chit backpedaled and eventually unbanned him.
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    I wonder if he was on any medication
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    Anyone can say taking you life is selfish and everything that comes with it, but have you ever been clinically depressed? Me personally I've never had those issues so I have no idea what goes thru someones head who feels like that.

    I mean just from watching him a little on twitch and from other peoples channels you'd think 'What in the world could be so horrible that you'd take your life' I mean the dude was pretty damn smart, very successful, travled the world, good friends with famous people, popular with girls and so on.

    But like I said we have no idea what goes on in someone's head who's so mentally ill and depressed that they think the only way is to commit suicide.

    It's pretty fucing sad
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    I remember Ernest Hemingway
    I remember when he went to Africa on a hunting trip which included fighting the locals.

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    Mental illness, it's unfortunate what happened

    I don't really see how so many people really care so much though. I mean yeah it's sad, but this is just some random dude that played WoW. Go to the wow classic reddit and you'll see all these people doing funeral ceremonies / "paying respects" in Stormwind and all this stupid chit, like really? Seems a little over the top lol
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    Mental illness, it's unfortunate what happened

    I don't really see how so many people really care so much though. I mean yeah it's sad, but this is just some random dude that played WoW. Go to the wow classic reddit and you'll see all these people doing funeral ceremonies / "paying respects" in Stormwind and all this stupid chit, like really? Seems a little over the top lol
    Mate, he was a huge figure and icon in the WoW community from the minute he started streaming. It's not over the top at all, when he was always having a bad time or general anxiety, he would always turn to the WoW community.

    In his mind, that was his serenity; that was his place away from the bull**** of this world and he contributed alot to that place. I think it's a grand last gesture to a legend of a phenonemally enormous gaming community

    Also to add, he was legit like one of the worlds best ranked 1 rogue and that account of his got banned, just imagine that huge impact, all because he shared his account so it's out there from the community after his passing if they could unban his account and also actually make an NPC of him in Shadowlands for PvP Arena
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    Originally Posted by MetroBrah View Post
    dam bros

    This begs the question, do you think there is some kind of 'suicide gene'? as fuked up as that sounds. I mean both sons committed suicide. RIP Reckful. Feel really bad for the parents
    You say this as though inherited genes are the only things the two sons shared. Siblings growing up together share a fuk ton more than just genes, they share an environment, specifically the same household with the same parents.

    It’s my guess that the parents played a significant role in the tragedy that befell their two sons, but I hope i’m wrong.
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    I wonder if he was on any medication
    https://www.thegamer.com/reckful-psi...-abuse-alarms/

    Reckful assures his fans that he's not suicidal, he also admitted that he's been suicidal before and that he's currently not on his medication. In previous streams, he's also admitted that psilocybin is the only thing keeping him from "jumping over the edge."
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    Originally Posted by ChangeOfStyle View Post
    Mate, he was a huge figure and icon in the WoW community from the minute he started streaming. It's not over the top at all, when he was always having a bad time or general anxiety, he would always turn to the WoW community.

    In his mind, that was his serenity; that was his place away from the bull**** of this world and he contributed alot to that place. I think it's a grand last gesture to a legend of a phenonemally enormous gaming community

    Also to add, he was legit like one of the worlds best ranked 1 rogue and that account of his got banned, just imagine that huge impact, all because he shared his account so it's out there from the community after his passing if they could unban his account and also actually make an NPC of him in Shadowlands for PvP Arena
    I almost wonder if WOW hurt his mental well being more then it helped. The online gaming community is a ****ing ugly mess these days.
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    u guys are blind or something... his brother committed suicide. u guys must be living in sunshines and rainbows, but when you see a loved one die or your loved one dies, especially tragically, it literally changes your brain and your entire perspective. it's something one has to experience.
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    Originally Posted by Azzurri View Post
    Anyone can say taking you life is selfish and everything that comes with it, but have you ever been clinically depressed? Me personally I've never had those issues so I have no idea what goes thru someones head who feels like that.

    I mean just from watching him a little on twitch and from other peoples channels you'd think 'What in the world could be so horrible that you'd take your life' I mean the dude was pretty damn smart, very successful, travled the world, good friends with famous people, popular with girls and so on.

    But like I said we have no idea what goes on in someone's head who's so mentally ill and depressed that they think the only way is to commit suicide.

    It's pretty fucing sad
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    u guys are blind or something... his brother committed suicide. u guys must be living in sunshines and rainbows, but when you see a loved one die or your loved one dies, especially tragically, it literally changes your brain and your entire perspective. it's something one has to experience.
    I feel like you guys are blinded by emotion. I and others have already come out as having been depressed and suicidal. The fact you're depressed doesn't change the fact that suicide is foolish & destructive. I recognize the perspective differences between someone who is depressed and someone who isn't. My point is: how do we help that person move from the former to the latter.

    Reckful had so much good in his life, but like many who commit suicide he hyperfocused on the bad. And like I mentioned with his chat - he or others should have taken steps to snuff out harassment if they knew it deeply affected him. I've lost close family and I have family who grew up seeing multiple friends get murdered who did not slip into depression. That's not the be all end all precursor to suicide.

    Stop defending his choice. Yall are using the same logic as trans child activists.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    I feel like you guys are blinded by emotion. I and others have already come out as having been depressed and suicidal. The fact you're depressed doesn't change the fact that suicide is foolish & destructive. I recognize the perspective differences between someone who is depressed and someone who isn't. My point is: how do we help that person move from the former to the latter.

    Reckful had so much good in his life, but like many who commit suicide he hyperfocused on the bad. And like I mentioned with his chat - he or others should have taken steps to snuff out harassment if they knew it deeply affected him. I've lost close family and I have family who grew up seeing multiple friends get murdered who did not slip into depression. That's not the be all end all precursor to suicide.

    Stop defending his choice. Yall are using the same logic as trans child activists.
    There's also a big difference between "feeling depressed" and having actual clinical depression with a chemical imbalance... A lot of people have felt depressed at one time or another, and some of those have thought about suicide, but that pales in comparison to someone who struggles every single day of their life with extreme clinical depression and vivid suicidal ideations.

    I've worked in mental health for close to 10 years, in the E.R. and in a multitude of various psych wards ranging from adolescent to geriatric and everything in between, I've seen the differences in the severity of depression different people face.

    My gf(been together 3 years, live together now) suffers from clinical depression and severe anxiety disorder, it is a struggle for her almost every single day but yes she gets through it and has a lot to live for(she's extremely intelligent, currently finishing her masters in counselling psych, and will be going for her PhD) and she knows that suicide would leave myself and her family extremely distraught, but that doesn't make living day-to-day any easier.

    I really don't think you get to call suicide a selfish act, as you have no idea what that individual is going through on a daily basis, just because you yourself has felt depressed doesn't give you a magical insight into the mind of Reckful and how unbearable his life might have been.
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    Originally Posted by kr1kit View Post
    There's also a big difference between "feeling depressed" and having actual clinical depression with a chemical imbalance... A lot of people have felt depressed at one time or another, and some of those have thought about suicide, but that pales in comparison to someone who struggles every single day of their life with extreme clinical depression and vivid suicidal ideations.

    I've worked in mental health for close to 10 years, in the E.R. and in a multitude of various psych wards ranging from adolescent to geriatric and everything in between, I've seen the differences in the severity of depression different people face.

    My gf(been together 3 years, live together now) suffers from clinical depression and severe anxiety disorder, it is a struggle for her almost every single day but yes she gets through it and has a lot to live for(she's extremely intelligent, currently finishing her masters in counselling psych, and will be going for her PhD) and she knows that suicide would leave myself and her family extremely distraught, but that doesn't make living day-to-day any easier.

    I really don't think you get to call suicide a selfish act, as you have no idea what that individual is going through on a daily basis, just because you yourself has felt depressed doesn't give you a magical insight into the mind of Reckful and how unbearable his life might have been.
    So we're basically saying that only the feelings of the depressed person matter. Not the financial and emotional destruction they inflict on their family with suicide.

    On the same token, none of you should defend his choice to take his life or even take an indifferent stance on the matter. The only input I'm hearing from you guys is dissatisfaction with people against suicide. The guy wasn't a hard case but he made a brash decision.

    Either way mirin the predictable goal post moving from "you must have never experience depression" to "it doesn't give you insight"
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    So we're basically saying that only the feelings of the depressed person matter. Not the financial and emotional destruction they inflict on their family with suicide.

    On the same token, none of you should defend his choice to take his life or even take an indifferent stance on the matter. The only input I'm hearing from you guys is dissatisfaction with people against suicide. The guy wasn't a hard case but he made a brash decision.

    Either way mirin the predictable goal post moving from "you must have never experience depression" to "it doesn't give you insight"
    when did I say you've never experienced depression? Please go quote where I said that. I said there is a difference between people who have felt depressed and those with long-term clinical depression.

    I also was not speaking about you specifically, I quoted your post but I wasn't saying "you have not experienced depression", I was speaking in general terms.

    It still doesn't give you the right to judge someone when you didn't live their life.
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    Originally Posted by kr1kit View Post
    when did I say you've never experienced depression? Please go quote where I said that. I said there is a difference between people who have felt depressed and those with long-term clinical depression.

    I also was not speaking about you specifically, I quoted your post but I wasn't saying "you have not experienced depression", I was speaking in general terms.

    It still doesn't give you the right to judge someone when you didn't live their life.
    That's the great thing about the west boyo, I DO have the right to say it. I've contributed way more to the discussion of Reckful's condition ITT than others.

    And not just you, it's multiple people attacking my perspective because they don't like how I'm criticizing his decision.
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    One less selfish idiot. Hopefully he didnt leave too many family members behind to suffer.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    That's the great thing about the west boyo, I DO have the right to say it. I've contributed way more to the discussion of Reckful's condition ITT than others.

    And not just you, it's multiple people attacking my perspective because they don't like how I'm criticizing his decision.
    Your contribution has been "ive felt depressed before, reckful is selfish for killing himself, he has family members".

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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    I feel like you guys are blinded by emotion. I and others have already come out as having been depressed and suicidal. The fact you're depressed doesn't change the fact that suicide is foolish & destructive. I recognize the perspective differences between someone who is depressed and someone who isn't. My point is: how do we help that person move from the former to the latter.

    Reckful had so much good in his life, but like many who commit suicide he hyperfocused on the bad. And like I mentioned with his chat - he or others should have taken steps to snuff out harassment if they knew it deeply affected him. I've lost close family and I have family who grew up seeing multiple friends get murdered who did not slip into depression. That's not the be all end all precursor to suicide.

    Stop defending his choice. Yall are using the same logic as trans child activists.
    "blinded by emotion" he says...as if we aren't discussing suicide here. something entirely emotion based and done by humans who are uniquely emotionally driven. it's what makes humans....human.

    just because you say you have dealt with it, doesn't make you the authority on how other people are supposed to deal with it. "suicide is foolish and destructive guys!" gee thanks for the brilliant insight phaggot, you don't fuking say. nobody is arguing that it isn't, just that we can sympathize with it. stop acting like everyone ITT is glorifying suicide or something. also, your supposed "point" of how do we help persons move from depressed to non depressed is not mutually exclusive with simply understanding why a person would commit suicide.

    to your second paragraph, all that matters to an individual is how THEY feel about THEIR OWN circumstances. you can say all you want how so and so was good in his life and how he simply chose to focus on the bad and thus end his life because of it, but that doesn't make your interpretation of his life line up with his own. depression is a disease, and suicide is not logical. what's so hard to understand? people are not well, they are not thinking straight in these scenarios. they are literally severely mentally ill and you are trying to talk about should or shouldn't have done lmao. you sound stupid as hell

    once again, "stop defending his choice". who the fuk is defending suicide? its an absolutely horrible thing, i think the focus is on accepting that it happens, and not shaming these individuals who were quite obviously suffering an unfathomable amount. it's about raising awareness around the issue to hopefully curb the potential causes going forward.
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    Originally Posted by portamoral View Post
    to your second paragraph, all that matters to an individual is how THEY feel about THEIR OWN circumstances. you can say all you want how so and so was good in his life and how he simply chose to focus on the bad and thus end his life because of it, but that doesn't make your interpretation of his life line up with his own. depression is a disease, and suicide is not logical. what's so hard to understand? people are not well, they are not thinking straight in these scenarios. they are literally severely mentally ill and you are trying to talk about should or shouldn't have done lmao. you sound stupid as hell
    You're 100% spot on, said it perfectly. This idiot thinks that because someone is rich, that means they have no reason to commit suicide and shouldn't feel the way they do?

    Do I need to post a list of the celebrities who have committed suicide? Robin Williams, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, etc... all had "so much good" in their lives and they still took their lives because guess what, clinical depression doesn't care about how much money you have in your bank or how many fans you have, it's not about that.
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    RIP Reckful, I was a fan of his from his early WoW days till the end. He was so damn good at pvp

    He suffered from severe bipolar disorder. I remember watching a stream of his on twitch and he was talking about his parents and how his mom was diagnosed with bipolar/BPD too. When he was around 16, his mom and him agreed to commit suicide together(Reckful has tried a few times in the past to kill himself by overdosing on pills). His brother killing himself when he was younger really messed them up. Mental illness is no joke, sadly Reckful was never able to truly get the help he needed. Reckful was suffering with much more than just "depression".


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