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    They Should Make RTS Games Again

    Gone are the days of RTS. Those LAN/online RTS matches were great. Would kill the time quickly.

    WC 1-3(WC1 is what made me love RTS), SC, C&C, Age of Empires, Age of Mythology, Battle Realms, and even turned based ones like Heroes of Might and Magic.

    These MOBA games, Defense of the Anciets, etc. does not appeal to me at all. Seems like a simple man's version of RTS.

    Since developers stopped making RTS, it is partly why I left PC gaming. I do play WC3 Reforged now and then though and it is still a blast. Mass steam tanks always make your opponents rage and call you names. lol
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    Kids these days don't have the intellect nor the patience for RTS, it's why it's a dying/dead genre for the most part.

    You can't expect a generation raised on Fortnite to sit through Age of Empires, Rise of Nations, Command and Conquer, etc.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Gone are the days of RTS. Those LAN/online RTS matches were great. Would kill the time quickly.

    WC 1-3(WC1 is what made me love RTS), SC, C&C, Age of Empires, Age of Mythology, Battle Realms, and even turned based ones like Heroes of Might and Magic.

    These MOBA games, Defense of the Anciets, etc. does not appeal to me at all. Seems like a simple man's version of RTS.

    Since developers stopped making RTS, it is partly why I left PC gaming. I do play WC3 Reforged now and then though and it is still a blast. Mass steam tanks always make your opponents rage and call you names. lol
    Agreed mate. I recently installed Warcraft 3 again and what a sick game it is.

    This is the issue I have with them, and maybe you could suggest something. I'm not good enough at them to play against people online, and none of my IRL friends play them. Is the AI in these games actually any good?
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    Gotta love Red Alert 3 and C&C, Rise of Nations was also pretty solid. Enjoyed RA3 the most though. I think they pretty much stopped it after they tried remastering all the original games and completely ****ing up the genre
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    There's a new AOE game coming out.

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    Lots of smaller good games on steam from from AA/indy devs who make rts games.
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    Was my first RTS game. It was installed on my local library's computer when i was a kid. Damn it was great. Now i'm getting that itch to play this genre.
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    No point really. Grand strategy has just taken over and dominated the game.

    Originally Posted by kr1kit View Post
    Kids these days don't have the intellect nor the patience for RTS, it's why it's a dying/dead genre for the most part.

    You can't expect a generation raised on Fortnite to sit through Age of Empires, Rise of Nations, Command and Conquer, etc.
    Not really true at all. Games like CK2, Stellaris and EU4 etc. require far more intellect and patience for sure than a regular RTS and those games still sell regularly. Even as adults not everyone has the time anymore to sit down and play games to completion in one sitting which is great for Grand Strategy since it's more about the journey.
    If anything most will just play a hybrid mix these days like Total war.
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    Imagine growing up on games like warcraft, total annihilation, starcraft & broodwar, with unforgiving online competitive play.

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    Agreed mate. I recently installed Warcraft 3 again and what a sick game it is.

    This is the issue I have with them, and maybe you could suggest something. I'm not good enough at them to play against people online, and none of my IRL friends play them. Is the AI in these games actually any good?
    Not sure with REFORGE, cuz I only play against other players. The OG WC3, you can choose the AI difficulty. Can be brutal on harder difficulties.
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    Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition is huge right now. The only problem with RTS games is YOU aren't playing it. Other people are.
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    C&C Generals was the last RTS game I had a lot of fun playing. SC2 was fun for awhile but at a certain point I just don't care to (and can't) keep up with the micro aspect to stay competitive. The Custom Games are GOAT though. Love RTS, hope it makes a comeback.
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    I never had the desire to memorize the min/max and build orders to get competitive. I was never good at hotkeying my building and units and I would get crushed by everyone in RTS PvP.

    That said, I love the custom games from SC1 and WC3 TFT.

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    Age of Empires 4 is in the making and Age of Empires 2 HD and DE have pretty big player bases, pro players and tournaments. Aoe2 HD actually had a tournament a few months ago with the biggest prize pool for the game since 2000. 50k total prizepool which in the grand scheme of things isn't that big, but it's still quite decent. 50k+ peak viewers live on twitch for the finals as well which is pretty big.

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    Starcraft2 is now free, and has a great esports scene and community. The 2019 WCS Global finals prize pool was ~700k and the total lifetime prize pool is ~35 million. They should just go ahead and remaster the game.


    aoe2 is pretty but too slow and boring. brb 2hour games, no thnx. maybe for boomers but I ain't go time or patience for that.
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    Wasted so many hours of my life on AoE2 and AoE2: The Conquerors. Deathmatch online 1v1 was my go to.

    Saw they released a definitive edition but not a good time to get it. Could see myself becoming addicted and have too many important things in life going on.


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    Wasted so many hours of my life on AoE2 and AoE2: The Conquerors. Deathmatch online 1v1 was my go to.

    Saw they released a definitive edition but not a good time to get it. Could see myself becoming addicted and have too many important things in life going on.


    oh trust me its super addicting

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    Agreed. I had a blast with these games. They had such a unique feel to them.

    I loved AOE, AOE 2, Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3, and the Command & Conquer series.

    I missed out on some of the big ones though like AOE 3, Age of Mythology, Rise of Nations, Empire Earth, and Dune. I've been nostalgic for this genre lately so I'm thinking about checking them out.

    One game that I don't see get mentioned often is Dark Reign. This had some of the most addictive gameplay I've ever experienced.

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    I am trying to go in order and have noticed that AOE is not nearly as good as AOE 2. Anyone agree?
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    Originally Posted by PattBattmann View Post
    I am trying to go in order and have noticed that AOE is not nearly as good as AOE 2. Anyone agree?
    Yes, AOE 2 was definitely an improvement over the first one.
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    Originally Posted by PattBattmann View Post
    I am trying to go in order and have noticed that AOE is not nearly as good as AOE 2. Anyone agree?
    Yeah AoE2 is an anomaly, an accidental masterpiece of depth and almost unlimited strategy ceiling, thats what makes it so mysterious.

    AoE1 was a generic base.

    AoE3 was like a shallow mainstream turn that went wrong and missed the original spirit and dynamic of balance and complex depth. Also was diff people.

    Even AoE2 in its original form is just the framework for what it has become in the 2010s. It was embellished/expanded upon and polished and worked on till it became 30+ civs and half a dozen expansions.

    Its only existed like this in it ultimate form less than 10 years.

    And please stop comparing Wokecraft 2 to this masterpiece. Its like comparing Dota 2 to LoL

    SC2= 3 civs
    AoE2= 35 civs

    SC2 = 2 resource categories
    AoE2 = 4 resource categories

    SC2 is RTS on rails for children and cucks, gtfoh wit dat

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