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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Why is do nothing a bad option?
    If this is true (and I don't know it is), you think that the appropriate response to a foreign leader placing bounties on US soldiers heads is "do nothing"?

    Would this remain the preferred option were the President not Trump, but instead Obama, or Hillary?
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    What if this was something that's been going on for longer than you've been alive? Do we act out just because the media said to?
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    How long has it been going on? if it's been going on since Obama and now suddenly someone cares, it's just business as usual.

    How do you know he's done nothing about it?
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    so is there een conclusive evidence that

    1. These bounties actually happened?

    2. Trump was briefed; and not like "we suspenct russia may be doing some shiet and we will update you when we learn more", but "holy God Mr. President here is the PROOF and we need to ACT NOW!"

    3. This is anything new?
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    Originally Posted by lildave View Post


    Looks like Trump needs to send some money to the Russians. According to the people with TDS that is what a real leader would do.
    Weird no one commented on this
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Trump owes a debt to Putin for his help during the election.



    Hopefully, the FBI will be ready to get him this time if he does it again:


    I. Summary of Major Findings
    https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/g...-on-collusion/

    The redacted Mueller Report documents a series of activities that show strong evidence of collusion. Or, more precisely, it provides significant evidence that Trump Campaign associates coordinated with, cooperated with, encouraged, or gave support to the Russia/WikiLeaks election interference activities. The Report documents the following actions (each of which is analyzed in detail in Part II):

    1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

    2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

    3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

    4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

    5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

    6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

    7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

    8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

    9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

    10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

    11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

    12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

    13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

    14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

    ...

    Also:

    As many experts have noted, what’s missing from the Mueller Report is the Special Counsel’s counterintelligence findings. We don’t know what the Special Counsel’s Office or the FBI have assessed, for example, with respect to whether Trump associates engaged in reciprocal efforts with Russian agents without entering a criminal agreement to do so, whether Americans have been witting or unwitting Russian assets, and what leverage or influence Moscow may have over particular individuals.
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    What a time to be alive to watch anti-war wing suddenly become hawks on starting a proxy war. So wild. On top of that they're willing to do it on unverified 'anonymous intelligence agency' sources. Amazing how each party will consistently take this bait.
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    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    Don't answer a question with a question, it's lazy, and it bores the fcking tits off me.
    Literally two posts above you answered a question with two questions

    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    If this is true (and I don't know it is), you think that the appropriate response to a foreign leader placing bounties on US soldiers heads is "do nothing"?

    Would this remain the preferred option were the President not Trump, but instead Obama, or Hillary?
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Literally two posts above you answered a question with two questions
    So how do you feel about the above post where Iran put a bounty on US soldiers. What do you think Obama should have done and do you considering him a weak leader, possibly blackmailed or supported by Iran?

    woops quoted wrong person, wanted to ask weightaholic
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    Originally Posted by lildave View Post


    Looks like Trump needs to send some money to the Russians. According to the people with TDS that is what a real leader would do.
    Still no comments from the lefties on here?
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    Are we denying the intelligence is unverified?
    but cnn and shareblue told me it was true reeeeeeeeee
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    If it is good enough to share with our allies then........

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-nat...th-u-s-allies/

    Trump National Security Advisor Says Russian Bounty Intel Was Shared With U.S. Allies
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    If it is good enough to share with our allies then........

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-nat...th-u-s-allies/

    Trump National Security Advisor Says Russian Bounty Intel Was Shared With U.S. Allies
    Jul 1st, 2020, 9:01 am
    So who made the call to share with allies but not with the President?
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    If it is good enough to share with our allies then........

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-nat...th-u-s-allies/

    Trump National Security Advisor Says Russian Bounty Intel Was Shared With U.S. Allies
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    Why no outrage when the same thing happened under previous administrations?

    hint: This is business as usual, benjy.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    If it is good enough to share with our allies then........

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-nat...th-u-s-allies/

    Trump National Security Advisor Says Russian Bounty Intel Was Shared With U.S. Allies
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    bro we share **** all the time and we don't run it by the POTUS every time we do; "share" could literally mean that informed them of an investigation so they can be on the lookout for corroborating evidence or to prompt them to share info they have that might be related. Basically, sharing does not equal confirmed.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Why no outrage when the same thing happened under previous administrations?

    hint: This is business as usual, benjy.
    Yep.
    ITs amazing to watch the double standards. They don't care that Obama not only did nothing about the bounties being paid by Iran but he actually dropped off pallets of cash to them.
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    If it is good enough to share with our allies then........

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-nat...th-u-s-allies/

    Trump National Security Advisor Says Russian Bounty Intel Was Shared With U.S. Allies
    Jul 1st, 2020, 9:01 am
    They share unconfirmed information with allies so they are aware. The same reason they shared it with the soldiers that were in Afghanistan. Everything I'm seeing none of this is new though.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/w...ghanistan.html

    Here is another article from NYT that came out right before Trump took office.

    In interviews with The New York Times, a former Taliban finance minister described how he traveled to Saudi Arabia for years raising cash while ostensibly on pilgrimage.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    So who made the call to share with allies but not with the President?
    As Dick Cheney said, i disagree with your premise.
    There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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    Originally Posted by lildave View Post
    They share unconfirmed information with allies so they are aware. The same reason they shared it with the soldiers that were in Afghanistan. Everything I'm seeing none of this is new though.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/w...ghanistan.html

    Here is another article from NYT that came out right before Trump took office.

    In interviews with The New York Times, a former Taliban finance minister described how he traveled to Saudi Arabia for years raising cash while ostensibly on pilgrimage.
    Well when he brags about a great relationship with Putin, you expect something, right?
    When he brags about being the toughest on Russian aggression you expect something right?
    And when he says he never heard of this before( daily briefing book) you expect something right?
    There is a reason they call it a "Daily Briefing Book" because you are supposed to read it, wait for it .......Daily!
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    Some fishy business going on here, hmmm?

    "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) revealed in her weekly press briefing that *******the Russian sanctions bill had sanctions that specifically targeted Russian intelligence, known as the GRU. But those sanctions were stripped out of the bill.********

    “We passed in a bipartisan way, sanctions on Russia. *****The administration told us to take out the sanctions against the GRU****, the intelligence as well as the defense sectors of Russia. Those should definitely be — those were there in a bipartisan way. The administration wanted them out. I don’t know why,” Pelosi said, throwing her arms in the air.
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    llmao at the retard libs still on going.

    this has been proven false already. just lmao cannot let go of the narrative. just like the russian/Ukraine collision, impeachment!

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Some fishy business going on here, hmmm?

    "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) revealed in her weekly press briefing that *******the Russian sanctions bill had sanctions that specifically targeted Russian intelligence, known as the GRU. But those sanctions were stripped out of the bill.********

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    Ask Adam Schiff, seeing that he knew about this since Feb.........

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    Originally Posted by gwg77 View Post
    The usual suspects get REKT like usual.
    What a bunch of *******s. Pretty sure I'm in early on this thread saying the story is likely bullchit. Some of these posters claim to be successful business owners or upper management, yet they're this retarded. Hmmm...
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    in on thread that didnt age well
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    Youch that’s gotta hurt.

    But unfortunately as seen in the thread I made on this they don’t care one bit. Fake news helped get drumpft out and that’s all they want
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    Originally Posted by gwg77 View Post
    The usual suspects get REKT like usual.


    Oh my. A moment of silence for them.

    (A special LOL at RapeyPat insisting that it was true because he saw it on national laughingstock Rachel Maddow's show. Lmao.)
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