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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    You didn't answer the question. Can Trump force Putin to withdraw the bounties and will the action required to force that decision be worth it?
    For context we've funded military/revolutionary groups dozens of times in threat to Russian forces.
    I'm not the president so I don't know the reasonable actions available. AGAIN, the NSC was convened to discuss a response.

    Anyone who suggests that no response is the answer is simply trolling. What do you say to the parents of kids fighting in Afghanistan? Nuffin we can do about Russia putting a bounty on your kid's head.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    I'm not the president so I don't know the reasonable actions available. AGAIN, the NSC was convened to discuss a response.

    Anyone who suggests that no response is the answer is simply trolling. What do you say to the parents of kids fighting in Afghanistan? Nuffin we can do about Russia putting a bounty on your kid's head.

    SMH

    Mark my words boyo, this story will continue to get verified and become yet one more reason why we need to boot his fat, Orange ass in November...if not before.
    So you're triggered but have no idea what if anything should have been done. #typical leftist

    For context I think Putins actions are ****ty but have no idea what an appropriate response should be.

    If you just publicly denounce it without doing anything you will be called soft on Russia.
    If you do something about it such as sanctions is it a worthy response?
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    DNI John Ratcliffe and former acting DNI Richard Grenell both dispute the claim that either Trump or Pence were made aware of such information. Betting this turns out to be fake news
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    Originally Posted by StarFox View Post
    DNI John Ratcliffe and former acting DNI Richard Grenell both dispute the claim that either Trump or Pence were made aware of such information. Betting this turns out to be fake news
    Nah, they're saying Trump may have not been TOLD. Big difference. Whether it was written and he didn't read it, or he's too much of a teen chick bitch to handle the news, there's literally no reason to aware England and not tell the president...unless he's a phuking moron that is.

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    Now that this is confirmed fake news I think it’s a good time to bring up the fact that Trump ordered the assassination of qasem solemani, the confirmed architect responsible for the deaths of hundreds of US troops. Obama/Biden on the other hand gave the Iranian regime plane loads of cash
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    I'll admit I skimmed this thread pretty quickly but what exactly was Trump supposed to do with said information assuming he had it?

    What course of action should the US have taken?
    The council created a list of options early in the year(March)and here it is almost July 1, and we wait............
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    The council created a list of options early in the year(March)and here it is almost July 1, and we wait............
    Any idea what the "options" are?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Nah, they're saying Trump may have not been TOLD. Big difference. Whether it was written and he didn't read it, or he's too much of a teen chick bitch to handle the news, there's literally no reason to aware England and not tell the president...unless he's a phuking moron that is.

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    Malcom Nance just said that he and others set up a direct "information transfer" to presidents when information like this comes to them. It is of such importance , that they can get it to him in 10 minutes. That way there is no chance that he can deny ever seeing the intelligence.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Any idea what the "options" are?
    Wait, so you are asking civilians to get in the mind of nsc military officials to speculate on a bodybuilding forum what the list of possible retaliatory options are for Russia?

    Seriously?
    Read that question again, and think hard before you ask a follow up.

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Wait, so you are asking civilians to get in the mind of nsc military officials to speculate on a bodybuilding forum what the list of possible retaliatory options are for Russia?

    Seriously?
    Read that question again, and think hard before you ask a follow up.

    Seriously?
    Yeah man because we never speculate on things on this forum. There are people in here complaining about it but have no idea what was proposed or what decisions were made. Perhaps our response is classified?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Yeah man because we never speculate on things on this forum. There are people in here complaining about it but have no idea what was proposed or what decisions were made. Perhaps our response is classified?
    Wouldn't that be insulting to even speculate, when it is way above our pay grade?
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    Um...did you miss the cult master's tweet yesterday?

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    Malcom Nance just said that he and others set up a direct "information transfer" to presidents when information like this comes to them. It is of such importance , that they can get it to him in 10 minutes. That way there is no chance that he can deny ever seeing the intelligence.
    i also hear they badge it. "president has seen"
    fortunately this debacle should not be full of ambiguity when it's all said and done. all that sht is paper trailed. whether proven true or not.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Wait, so you are asking civilians to get in the mind of nsc military officials to speculate on a bodybuilding forum what the list of possible retaliatory options are for Russia?

    Seriously?
    Read that question again, and think hard before you ask a follow up.

    Seriously?
    That is generally what this entire message board is...
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    so wait - Trump was never told but it is still his fault the administration never did anything about it?
    Fake news fail #657,973,452.

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Wouldn't that be insulting to even speculate, when it is way above our pay grade?
    Are you joking?

    This entire forum is non stop speculation about politics, geopolitics, and world events.
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    Fake news fail #657,973,452.

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    Originally Posted by roughinhouse View Post
    Hows it fake news?
    Because not true is synonymous with fake.

    Has the intel been 100% confirmed?

    No.

    Was the President briefed on this intel that hasn't been 100% confirmed?

    No.

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    You mean like when America financed bin Laden to fight against Soviets in Afghanistan?
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    Originally Posted by 401Delta View Post
    Because not true is synonymous with fake.

    Has the intel been 100% confirmed?

    No.

    Was the President briefed on this intel that hasn't been 100% confirmed?

    No.

    Keep crying, though.
    roughinhouse can't even spell "civilians" correctly in the topic i made about trump+barr getting fbi agents to arrest terrorist groups. this exact quote.

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    dude's a fuking retard.
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    This "intelligence" comes from the same people who said Iraq had WMD, that Syrian rebels were freedom fighters, etc. Not buying it. It makes no strategic sense from Russia's perspective, as they indirectly benefit from the US being in Afghanistan. Russia does not want radical Islamism spreading into the Central Asian republics which are on their own border. This makes about as much sense as Assad repeatedly launching tiny, ineffective gas attacks which accomplish nothing on the ground but invite US airstrikes. So Putin, like Assad, is deliberately sabotaging himself for no reason. Of course the sheeple will gobble this up like they always do. I've been watching the usual suspects going by their usual playbook for as long as I've been alive, and their attempts to manufacture conflict are only getting more transparent as the years go by.

    The Deep State is alive and well. They don't serve the interests of the American people and it's important to remember that. There is nothing wrong with being informally allied to the Russians because we share a common civilizational bond. The globalists have been trying to sabotage this natural alliance for decades, doing everything in their power to make Russia an enemy while embracing the likes of Saudi Arabia and China. They keep telling us the enemy is Western, Christian Russia but no one ever stops to compare them to our supposed allies.
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    There's only one solution to this - we need a full court press of Senate and House special committees to fully investigate and subject the secretary of state to 11 hour marathon testimony sessions.

    should be easy to do , just dust off the Benghazi playbook and run that same set of investigations and hearings.

    did more than 4 americans die in afghanistan as a result of these bounties and what did the administration know and when did they know it?
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    more propaganda for the lemmings, lol. Every. Single. Time.
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    Who funded the Mujaheddin to fight the Soviets, and in recent times in the 90s the Chechens to fight the Russians?
    We did!
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    There's only one solution to this - we need a full court press of Senate and House special committees to fully investigate and subject the secretary of state to 11 hour marathon testimony sessions.

    should be easy to do , just dust off the Benghazi playbook and run that same set of investigations and hearings.

    did more than 4 americans die in afghanistan as a result of these bounties and what did the administration know and when did they know it?
    I wouldn't be surprised as this story develops if Trump tries to blame Hillary lol
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    It amazes me how people mindlessly absorb and repeat these media narratives without using any context. We deal with countries that undermine US interests all the time, yet one example is highlighted for the sake of making Trump look bad and it becomes the Controversy of the Day. Clueless idiots.

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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    It amazes me how people mindlessly absorb and repeat these media narratives without using any context. We deal with countries that undermine US interests all the time, yet one example is highlighted for the sake of making Trump look bad and it becomes the Controversy of the Day. Clueless idiots.

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    Translation: "I'm perfectly fine with Russia putting bounties on the lives of US troops while Trump continues to fondle Putin's nutsack". That's some pretty strong kool-aid.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Translation: "I'm perfectly fine with Russia putting bounties on the lives of US troops while Trump continues to fondle Putin's nutsack". That's some pretty strong kool-aid.
    If you only knew half of what countries around the world did to hamper US interests, it wouldn't be so shocking, but please Jayarbie, do continue on with your quest for justice.

    Repeat after me: The media controls what you get outraged over.

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