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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Houston, as we know is seeing a big spike. I wonder if the 60,000+ people who attended the George Floyd funeral had anything to do with it - possibly as a super-spreader event?
    I am sure it is a combination of folks tired of being locked down for 2-3 months, hints by the president, protesters,and some people being lazy and apathetic. It takes thinking and real work to be so careful when out and about, 1 screw up and your positive.


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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I am sure it is a combination of folks tired of being locked down for 2-3 months, hints by the president, protesters,and some people being lazy and apathetic. It takes thinking and real work to be so careful when out and about, 1 screw up and your positive.

    Hey hey , no strap downs, lol.
    I think it is partly all of the above as you say, but the funeral probably had something to do with it. Close gatherings like this we see in Florida and California by yound and old going to the beach.

    Aerial of Floyd funeral.

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    16 new cases in the nba. Guess they aren’t doing all they can to protect themselves.
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    16 new cases in the nba. Guess they aren’t doing all they can to protect themselves.
    Yup the NFL has several as well as mlb and the center fielder for the Colorado Rockies.
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    Yup the NFL has several as well as mlb and the center fielder for the Colorado Rockies.
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    Originally Posted by Plateauplower View Post
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    7000 - 8000 people die in the US everyday. How many of the 600-1000 daily deaths we are seeing now would have died anyway?
    Thats the question I have asked repeatedly but of course it's pretty much unanswerable. We have all sorts of people freaking out over a death number that amounts to a small amount when put into perspective.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Thats the question I have asked repeatedly but of course it's pretty much unanswerable. We have all sorts of people freaking out over a death number that amounts to a small amount when put into perspective.
    Yeah, I was watching those stats at the state level pretty closely at the height of things here. We were seeing higher than normal death rates at the time, but that doesn’t tell the full story because I think our total cases were MASSIVELY under reported. It was likely here within a week of being in the population in Wuhan being a world hub that Chicago is. We had a strain that was nearly identical to Wuhan genetically. I think I had it in mid January and I remember also seeing A LOT of death notices up at work for retirees and parents of current staff.

    It is primarily killing people who are on borrowed time, so even when its really surging hard, it’s essentially killing people who would maybe be dead in 1-3 years so perhaps we will have a period of years of lower than normal death rates...It’s hard to know just how many people have had it without huge and accurate serology testing. I do believe that natural post infection resistance from antibodies are partially responsible for the lower rates now in earlier hot spots. The mitigation methods certainly help, but we had stringent lockdowns from the start in March, and cases continued to rise (even percentage of positive rates). Still a lot of unknowns. Viruses are constantly mutating too, hopefully to be less virulent (which is to the advantage of the virus not to kill the host).

    You can get the stats from CDC morbidity and mortality weekly reports. Look at a few years by month and compare to current total mortality. Then you can also see the deaths attributed to COVID in comparison with total deaths.
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    "There were more than 5,000 new cases reported in the state Thursday, the second single highest tally since the outbreak began and 9,000 on Friday."
    Dam Florida is in growth mode, never have i heard of 9,000 cases in a single day!

    "U.S. hits a one-day infection record with 45,242 new coronavirus cases recorded on Friday, according to a Reuters tally, as states pull back from reopening plans."

    The most i had seen in a day was 30,000 at our peak.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    "There were more than 5,000 new cases reported in the state Thursday, the second single highest tally since the outbreak began and 9,000 on Friday."
    Dam Florida is in growth mode, never have i heard of 9,000 cases in a single day!

    "U.S. hits a one-day infection record with 45,242 new coronavirus cases recorded on Friday, according to a Reuters tally, as states pull back from reopening plans."

    The most i had seen in a day was 30,000 at our peak.



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    Florida reports record-shattering 9,585 new #COVID19 cases and 24 new deaths. The new cases bring the total in Florida up to 132,545 with 3,390 deaths.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Florida reports record-shattering 9,585 new #COVID19 cases and 24 new deaths. The new cases bring the total in Florida up to 132,545 with 3,390 deaths.
    That's nuts!
    Going backwards not forward...
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Florida reports record-shattering 9,585 new #COVID19 cases and 24 new deaths. The new cases bring the total in Florida up to 132,545 with 3,390 deaths.
    Florida on that IDGAF time. Now that testing availability is there, these surges will be interesting to watch. Likely younger people at parties, bars, beaches, some will undoubtedly spread it on to people in higher risk groups (parents, grandparents) or others at work etc. The massive protests were likely a catalyst that helped really get things rolling. This is where that “2 more weeks brah“ might be spot on. Of course, if higher risk populations are taking necessary precautions for themselves death rates will likely not be as bad as NY etc from the same number of reported cases. These high case counts won’t be dropping anytime soon imo.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    "There were more than 5,000 new cases reported in the state Thursday, the second single highest tally since the outbreak began and 9,000 on Friday."
    Dam Florida is in growth mode, never have i heard of 9,000 cases in a single day!

    "U.S. hits a one-day infection record with 45,242 new coronavirus cases recorded on Friday, according to a Reuters tally, as states pull back from reopening plans."

    The most i had seen in a day was 30,000 at our peak.

    How many new cases of cancer, hypertension and diabetes.
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    death rates will likely not be as bad as NY etc from the same number of reported cases.
    Given that Florida did not institute death camps (also known as "sending the infected to nursing homes") you are likely correct.
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    Given that Florida did not institute death camps (also known as "sending the infected to nursing homes") you are likely correct.
    President Coumo said that was Trumps fault.
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    How many new cases of cancer, hypertension and diabetes.
    Not sure where you are going with this as none of these are classed as a communicable disease.
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    Originally Posted by Plateauplower View Post
    I have not seen what the protocol is for PPE changes in test sites, but I can assure you that there is an increased risk in that setting. 500+ positives last few days in DC, there’s a reasonable chance that those arms reaching into your car to probe your sinuses have viable virus particles on them.
    Yea, there's no way in hell I'm going into one of those sites to be tested when I'm not having any symptoms.
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    Houston, as we know is seeing a big spike. I wonder if the 60,000+ people who attended the George Floyd funeral had anything to do with it - possibly as a super-spreader event?
    Bro, you know The Cova was not invited to the funeral. Come on now...
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    Not sure where you are going with this as none of these are classed as a communicable disease.
    It goes directly to the correlation between testing and increased cases.

    Precedence is being set by cherry picked, incomplete reporting of the numbers.
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    Yea, there's no way in hell I'm going into one of those sites to be tested when I'm not having any symptoms.
    Don’t worry. Once they institute the paperwork (and it’s in the works) that you have to show to prove you don’t have it, we’ll all be jamming that big swab through our nose into our throat.

    People will embrace the paperwork, because it’s meant to keep us safe.
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    President Coumo said that was Trumps fault.
    Elrond also said it was Trumps fault, along with every other disaster in the nation and world.


    So, how bout Trump winning the presidency every other 4 years, sound like a nice strategy?
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    Don’t worry. Once they institute the paperwork (and it’s in the works) that you have to show to prove you don’t have it, we’ll all be jamming that big swab through our nose into our throat.

    People will embrace the paperwork, because it’s meant to keep us safe.
    Why don't we have to do all this stuff for influenza? There are 10's of thousands that die every year and that's with a vaccine that's been available for what...like 50 years? I mean, didn't we care about the sick and elderly before or is this just a new phenomena?
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    Elrond also said it was Trumps fault, along with every other disaster in the nation and world.


    So, how bout Trump winning the presidency every other 4 years, sound like a nice strategy?
    Trump is in for another four, you can take that to the bank.. Buy a boat, Going to be some tears flowing
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    Bro, you know The Cova was not invited to the funeral. Come on now...
    Apparently the COVID doesn't care.
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    How many new cases of cancer, hypertension and diabetes.
    Undiagnosed Cancer plus diagnosed, lots
    Hypertension lots(stressful times/chitty diets)
    Diabetes, not sure, not my area.

    This Covid-19 is just new, and docs are talking about strokes and blood clots in young people.
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    Miami's beaches, popular with residents and tourists, will be closed Fourth of July weekend as officials keep a cautious eye on the rapidly rising number of new coronavirus cases in the area.

    Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez says all beaches and parks in the county will close from Friday, July 3 through Tuesday, July 7. He warned the closure could be extended if conditions don't improve and people don't follow rules designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus.


    The Florida Department of Health reported 8,530 new coronavirus cases Sunday. On Saturday, the state reported 9,585 new coronavirus cases, a single-day record high since the start of the pandemic. The number rivals that of New York's peak in daily cases in early April.
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    Why don't we have to do all this stuff for influenza? There are 10's of thousands that die every year and that's with a vaccine that's been available for what...like 50 years? I mean, didn't we care about the sick and elderly before or is this just a new phenomena?

    So if it is just a flu, why can't i sit and watch my fav sports, MLB, NBA, Soccer, Tennis?
    Are the corporate/capitalist owners tired of my ticket money, my food and beverage money, my clothing and hat money, and my future ticket purchase money?
    These guys must be dumb, we can pack the stadium and make them rich in 60 games with our pent up desire for sports....LMAO!
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    So if it is just a flu, why can't i sit and watch my fav sports, MLB, NBA, Soccer, Tennis?
    Are the corporate/capitalist owners tired of my ticket money, my food and beverage money, my clothing and hat money, and my future ticket purchase money?
    These guys must be dumb, we can pack the stadium and make them rich in 60 games with our pent up desire for sports....LMAO!
    Very god points ben, the just like the flu analogy is getting old


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