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    Republican Pollster: Trump Getting Crushed in Swing States

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne..._Crosstabs.pdf

    PA: Biden +12

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne..._Crosstabs.pdf

    MI: Biden +18

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne..._Crosstabs.pdf

    WI: Biden +17

    These polls were done by Hodas & Associates for Restoration PAC.

    http://www.hodasandassociates.com/about/glenn-hodas/

    Glenn Hodas began his career in politics and government at the Illinois State Capitol, where he worked for State Senate President ‘Pate’ Philip on the Senate Republican Staff.

    Staffing the Senate Executive Committee, Hodas was responsible for drafting and analyzing much of the major legislation that was debated in Illinois during the 1990’s.

    His decade of service in the State Senate involved another challenging role: he also acted as the campaign manager of numerous state senate campaigns—all of which were considered “Tier 1” targeted races.

    In 2001, Hodas joined Lieutenant Governor Corinne Wood’s office as Chief of Staff, going on to manage her statewide gubernatorial primary campaign. In the 2002 general election, he was tapped to become Jim Ryan’s Deputy Campaign Manager.

    Since 2003, Hodas has run his own consulting firm–Hodas & Associates—and has assisted a number of clients with political campaigns, issue advocacy efforts, and legislative needs.
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    Restoration PAC is a political action committee that sponsors political activities advocating for policy changes and/or the election or defeat of candidates on the basis of time-tested conservative principles.
    So a Republican operative polling for a far-right PAC found Trump getting absolutely smoked in the three most important swing states. I realize there is a long way to go in the campaign, but oof, that one's gotta hurt. Double digit margins are hard to overcome.
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    Republicans always underperform in polls.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Republicans always underperform in polls.
    Not by 18 points. LOL.
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    Polls have trump behind his opponent bigly.

    where have I heard this before?
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    I can see it since he just won’t stop acting like a jackass. It’s incredibly off-putting to a lot of people.

    That said, I think those states are very much up in the air and will wind up being won in the 1-3 percentage point range, whether it’s either Biden or Trump winning then.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Not by 18 points. LOL.
    uhhh they absolutely have in the past.

    MI is a solid lock for Trump after what the Gov has pulled
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    Sounds about right.
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    makes complete sense. as i always say, im not solely focused on the number because it's all about the trend.

    i need to see his direction continue to tank heading into the election. he has some really big polling issues in florida on the way
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    this is a referendum on trump, the incumbent. cucks cant seem to understand it.

    Attacking biden wont change the results one bit.

    trump needs to appeal to more voters and be more presidential. That's the only thing that's going to change results.

    clown could have played this coronavirus stuff so well, he couldve been 20+ right now. Instead he's attacking masks - organizing rallies and cutting funding to testing.

    you cant make this sht up.... He wasted trillions on the economy just to make it look like its recovering without any real plan, testing or lock down like the other countries.

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    At this point trump has shown he’s nothing more than a clown. He was woefully lacking the necessary skills to be president and it’s shown. He will continue to have support from the cult and those diehard GOPers that hate him but see him as a useful idiot to stack appointments. But moderates? The group that won him the election in 2016? Those that didn’t leave in the first three years surely did the past few months. The tour is over.
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    What is the point of such threads? Cope for leftist losers that “things will get better”? Wait until November and we’ll see who wins.

    Leftists learned nothing from 2016. Same polls same attitude same everything. Sore losers never learn from their mistakes, because they are a stupid butthurt idiots. Tell Mueller to get ready, his ass might be forced out of retirement to investigate another hoax for leftists to cope with.
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    I'll vote for him again but its probably over.


    The Americans who want this can rott in hell and the Union be damned.

    Stockpiling as best I can and hoping a secessionist movement grows out of the hell the Democrats will create if they win.
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    Clinton was +6.2% this time 2016. She ended up -13.8%.


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    makes complete sense. as i always say, im not solely focused on the number because it's all about the trend.

    i need to see his direction continue to tank heading into the election. he has some really big polling issues in florida on the way
    Here's the trend from Hodas/Restoration:

    PA:
    Apr 6-8: Even
    May 9-13: Trump +5
    June 8-11: Biden +12

    MI:
    Apr 9-11: Biden +6
    May 1-5: Biden +10
    June 17-20: Biden +18

    WI:
    Apr 13-15: Biden +4
    May 6-8: Biden +9
    June 12-16: Biden +17

    So every state moved at least 8 points to Biden this month, including a whopping 17 in PA.
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    What is the point of such threads? Cope for leftist losers that “things will get better”? Wait until November and we’ll see who wins.

    Leftists learned nothing from 2016. Same polls same attitude same everything. Sore losers never learn from their mistakes, because they are a stupid butthurt idiots. Tell Mueller to get ready, his ass might be forced out of retirement to investigate another hoax for leftists to cope with.
    These are conservative/Republican polls, so the "hurr, durr, Communist librul media conspiracy polls" does not apply.
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    Very few people will vote for Biden, but a lot are going to be voting against Trump. It's a shame - if he could control his personality he would be re-elected easily.
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    Is Hillary still president?
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    I'll vote for him again but its probably over.


    The Americans who want this can rott in hell and the Union be damned.

    Stockpiling as best I can and hoping a secessionist movement grows out of the hell the Democrats will create if they win.
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    the poll that matters to me is the one that happens on nov 3
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    How many people have even heard Biden speak without being edited? Once the debates begin they'll see what a senile man that he is.
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    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne..._Crosstabs.pdf

    PA: Biden +12

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne..._Crosstabs.pdf

    MI: Biden +18

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne..._Crosstabs.pdf

    WI: Biden +17

    These polls were done by Hodas & Associates for Restoration PAC.

    http://www.hodasandassociates.com/about/glenn-hodas/



    https://www.restorationofamerica.com/doug



    So a Republican operative polling for a far-right PAC found Trump getting absolutely smoked in the three most important swing states. I realize there is a long way to go in the campaign, but oof, that one's gotta hurt. Double digit margins are hard to overcome.
    So the democrats plan to close everything down, destroy the economy, make people lose their livelihoods then riot, cause widespread destruction in towns and cities, is working for them?
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Nothing screams patriotism like hoping for another civil war when your side loses. Honk honk.
    Isn’t that what the Dems have been doing since the virus started? Destroy the economy, destroy people’s livelihoods, riot, burn down cities, increase racial tension by calling every white person a racist promote liars like bubba to superstar status?
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    So the democrats plan to close everything down, destroy the economy, make people lose their livelihoods then riot, cause widespread destruction in towns and cities, is working for them?
    Trump’s pandemic response team recommended everything close down. Trump’s response destroyed the economy. Why do you place blame on democrats when Republican states and trump’s own response followed the same game plan?

    Ah, because you’re a partisan hack.
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    Do people actually believe this? How is Biden supporters locking taxpayers in their homes while telling everyone else to riot and protest bad for Trump? What decent person wants to live in the Dems New America?
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    Originally Posted by nin-com-poop View Post
    How many people have even heard Biden speak without being edited? Once the debates begin they'll see what a senile man that he is.
    LMFAO!

    biden attended to 11 debates last year and this. Not only he did great, he wiped the floor with all the populist candidates during primaries.

    Keep wishing your clown daddy will win anything.. He cant even walk down the ramp or drink water with one hand.

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    Do people actually believe this? How is Biden supporters locking taxpayers in their homes while telling everyone else to riot and protest bad for Trump? What decent person wants to live in the Dems New America?
    Is America in a better spot today than before trump took office?
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    Do people actually believe this? How is Biden supporters locking taxpayers in their homes while telling everyone else to riot and protest bad for Trump? What decent person wants to live in the Dems New America?
    I don’t believe that the polls are that wide in reality, but I do think they’re toss ups. A state like Michigan probably does lean Biden.

    Like others have said, I don’t think Biden matters too much. The election is going to be Trump vs Not Trump. Usually running on the platform of “at least I’m not the other guy” makes for a very likely loss (Romney and Kerry come to mind), but IMO Trump is a huge outlier to this rule.
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    Look at all the candidates trump endorsed and/or campaigned for last 2-3 years. Most of them lost. That should tell you how hated he is and how little room he has for error.
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    Trump was an outlier and won all 3 states by ~75K votes total.

    Last time an (R) won those states before Trump was over 30 years ago. If (R) are putting those states solid red then you're making a big mistake.

    1) WI- 1984 Reagan(both Romney and Bush 04 got more votes than Trump)
    2) MI- 1988 Bush
    3) PA- 1988 Bush
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