Sports cards

[SirFapsAIot]

Na. Baseball is and will always be king. Next year basketball will be garbage compared to right now. Baseball is always hot. Same goes for most valuable cards. I don't even want to carry football in my store. Hockey I carry because that's my sport and upper deck gives me product to sell. You might have Zion and Morant right now but you'll always have a hot baseball prospect that's going for thousands of dollars every year before they drop off people's radars for what seems like forever lol You look for generational talents. Hockey is even hot for that right now because in 2015-16 you had McDavid and now this year you'll have Alexis Lafreniere. Two "generationals" in a 5 year span. And I think beckett either lost or just don't want to let me know they have my alexis card I sent in a month ago lol.

This just sold for 105K. But I fuking hate PWCC because they shill bid.





I'm in the middle of a raid so don't have time to look up comps lol

PWCC not only allows shilling, they are also complicit and involved in the shill bidding at times, they are also complicit with people who they know alter cards for regrade/resale, PWCC are basically criminals. I know Brent has been directly involved at one point, who knows how many more times he was influencing the prices before and after. PWCC auctions are routinely shilled.

[propreffered7]

And I think beckett either lost or just don't want to let me know they have my alexis card I sent in a month ago lol.l

yea, man. im scared of this chit. i don't get how people trust these grading companies

altering the cards or swapping out. why on gods green earth if they got a fuken perfect 10 of a rare azz card would it not behoove them to try to find a decent replacement? and who over watches that? is there somebody or am i ignorant?


or they just say they "lost" your card, etc.

[cadetduke]

It all depends. Theres base cards just regular blank cards. Then there is cards that were produced signed, like the card company printed the card and then the player signed them with the company as the person supervising it. Then theres blank cards that you have that YOU take to the player at a game or spring training and get them to sign. In terms of value it will go 1) signed by player in front of company rep, 2) YOU get the player to sign it, 3) blank. But this is only for low end base cards, you don't want the player signing colored or numbered cards bc its worth more blank. For your Yzerman point there was two grades, one by BGS and one by PSA. The BGS was an 8.5 which was I'm assuming lower than the PSA grade, the higher the grade the more its worth. Autos will sell more depending on the product, but colored and numbered cards will sell for more than autos if the auto is a regular card if that makes sense.

Uh. You know who you're talking to? I do this for a living.

You even got my whole bgs vs psa thing wrong. BGS was graded 8.5. I said psa was just an authentic auto, it wasn't graded.

yea, man. im scared of this chit. i don't get how people trust these grading companies

altering the cards or swapping out. why on gods green earth if they got a fuken perfect 10 of a rare azz card would it not behoove them to try to find a decent replacement? and who over watches that? is there somebody or am i ignorant?


or they just say they "lost" your card, etc.

I posted an update. The finally said they received it. They can't swap out a numbered card. Mine is 15/15. But yeah, I can see the fear of swapping out non serial #'d stuff.

[HaiMeesk]

I posted an update. The finally said they received it. They can't swap out a numbered card. Mine is 15/15. But yeah, I can see the fear of swapping out non serial #'d stuff.

InB4 card comes back scratched or a dinged corner.
Sent some high end cards to PSA a few years ago, different shipments. All serial #ed so no chance of switch. Both times the cards came back with some visible flaw that knocked them down to a 9 instead of a 10. Fuk those *******s.

Talked to a few customers and dealers who do the grading thing (I don't) and they're waiting on 6 months now for getting their orders back. That's how it is across the board, whether you pay expedited or standard.

[WestAfrica]

InB4 card comes back scratched or a dinged corner.
Sent some high end cards to PSA a few years ago, different shipments. All serial #ed so no chance of switch. Both times the cards came back with some visible flaw that knocked them down to a 9 instead of a 10. Fuk those *******s.

Talked to a few customers and dealers who do the grading thing (I don't) and they're waiting on 6 months now for getting their orders back. That's how it is across the board, whether you pay expedited or standard.

I sent in a Zion prizm base to be graded and it came back with some new ding on it and got a 9. I also sent in a Nick Madrigal Gold Wave auto and they slabbed it but left a piece of cardboard inside the slab.

[cadetduke]

Talked to a few customers and dealers who do the grading thing (I don't) and they're waiting on 6 months now for getting their orders back. That's how it is across the board, whether you pay expedited or standard.

This is not true. I shipped two trout's on 9/8. They're being delivered back to me tomorrow.

Only bulk services are delayed with 100+ business day turnaround.

[SirFapsAIot]

InB4 card comes back scratched or a dinged corner.
Sent some high end cards to PSA a few years ago, different shipments. All serial #ed so no chance of switch. Both times the cards came back with some visible flaw that knocked them down to a 9 instead of a 10. Fuk those *******s.

Talked to a few customers and dealers who do the grading thing (I don't) and they're waiting on 6 months now for getting their orders back. That's how it is across the board, whether you pay expedited or standard.

Grading is basically a huge scam. SRS

Both companies are dirty and both are incompetent, but right now the market is one huge bubble waiting to pop. The amount of manipulation going on in the market is insane, reminds me of people talking about getting rich off cards back in the early 90s, it's all going to happen all over again when people get burnt out. I guess when that scum bag GaryV got into cards because he saw how easy it was to convince people of value, every one of his followers were convinced that graded cards = get rich quick and now there is a big rush to grade.

[HaiMeesk]

This is not true. I shipped two trout's on 9/8. They're being delivered back to me tomorrow.

Only bulk services are delayed with 100+ business day turnaround.

Yeah these guys were definitely bulk submitters. $1000-$2000 in grading fees. LOL
What did the Trout's grade?

Grading is basically a huge scam. SRS

Both companies are dirty and both are incompetent, but right now the market is one huge bubble waiting to pop. The amount of manipulation going on in the market is insane, reminds me of people talking about getting rich off cards back in the early 90s, it's all going to happen all over again when people get burnt out. I guess when that scum bag GaryV got into cards because he saw how easy it was to convince people of value, every one of his followers were convinced that graded cards = get rich quick and now there is a big rush to grade.

No argument on any of this. Happy sales are way up and selling historically buck box cards for $50-$100. No way it's going to last.

I sent in a Zion prizm base to be graded and it came back with some new ding on it and got a 9. I also sent in a Nick Madrigal Gold Wave auto and they slabbed it but left a piece of cardboard inside the slab.

Ugh. And you know damn well they do this on purpose. If they didn't, ebay would be swamped with PSA 10s. All of those pristine 96 Topps Kobes people paid $500 for and are now sending in are probably being chucked against a concrete wall as we speak.

[SirFapsAIot]

No argument on any of this. Happy sales are way up and selling historically buck box cards for $50-$100. No way it's going to last.

LOL at the Kobe stuff by the way, I know a dude who had a bunch of them laying around, the Topps were/are insane too, tried to give the fukking cards away a couple years back and no one would even take them. srs

Made a nice wad of cash off of them recently. Just goes to show how fukked the hobby is.

[Big_Spaz]

I just sent away 8 cards for grading. Took pictures of each and every card before I sent them.

Before this, I used to go to the Philly show each year (Valley Forge Casino) and they had grading on the spot. Take your card, they hand you a number and tell you to come back in 2-4 hours and pick up your card. Excellent way to prevent card swapping.






-Spaz

[Droopdx]

Hey Op/anyone with sports card knowledge

Been looking at buying football cards on eBay, my friend who just got into the hobby is telling me to buy Panini Mosaic. See a bunch of packs on eBay, but the price for them goes from $20-50 a pack. What should I be looking for?

Really want a Herbert rookie card, but there’s a lot of too good to be true cards on eBay

[skier!]

I just sent away 8 cards for grading. Took pictures of each and every card before I sent them.

Before this, I used to go to the Philly show each year (Valley Forge Casino) and they had grading on the spot. Take your card, they hand you a number and tell you to come back in 2-4 hours and pick up your card. Excellent way to prevent card swapping.






-Spaz

Funny, I have always thought about beckett being the company that blew up the market 84-90s because of the overinflated values and possible market manipulating, meaning they know the prices before the guide is released which is akin to insider trading in the stock market. i never thought about swapping out cards if they are not numbered. What an absolute joke.

[cadetduke]

Before this, I used to go to the Philly show each year (Valley Forge Casino) and they had grading on the spot. Take your card, they hand you a number and tell you to come back in 2-4 hours and pick up your card. Excellent way to prevent card swapping.

You can still do this at the big shows. If they ever have them again. The lines are usually insanely long though (at least they were at the national last year).

Been looking at buying football cards on eBay, my friend who just got into the hobby is telling me to buy Panini Mosaic. See a bunch of packs on eBay, but the price for them goes from $20-50 a pack. What should I be looking for?

Mosaic is good. First year for football. Them fuks gave me 0 boxes and I tried to get 5 cases of each product.

This is what my total is for pre-orders right now

[Droopdx]

You can still do this at the big shows. If they ever have them again. The lines are usually insanely long though (at least they were at the national last year).


Mosaic is good. First year for football. Them fuks gave me 0 boxes and I tried to get 5 cases of each product.

This is what my total is for pre-orders right now

Lol damn. So should I buy some on eBay for $50 per pack or wait it out?

[WestAfrica]

Lol damn. So should I buy some on eBay for $50 per pack or wait it out?

This is the first year for Mosaic football, prizm is coming out soon. If you can find a rookie card or any card that is actually good surface and all that it will be worth alot more if it grades a psa 10. Alot of Mosica has surface dimples and dings straight from the pack. Herbert cards you can still get for semi low in price, if you want a PC card or just one big card to hold I'd get one. Just make sure you get pics from front n back. I was gonna buy a $300 card today and this scoundrel told me it was nice front and back and I asked for pics and the back corner was rekt af. For players to look for, the rookies from this year are all worth something esp if they have a good game, Jefferson on the Vikes price went up alot the last few weeks. I except CeeDee's cards to go up too with his play. You can buy packs but you can get someone who you don't want or some chit players, you could luck out also tho.

[fishnbrah]

You guys want to buy any Jordan’s?

[Droopdx]

This is the first year for Mosaic football, prizm is coming out soon. If you can find a rookie card or any card that is actually good surface and all that it will be worth alot more if it grades a psa 10. Alot of Mosica has surface dimples and dings straight from the pack. Herbert cards you can still get for semi low in price, if you want a PC card or just one big card to hold I'd get one. Just make sure you get pics from front n back. I was gonna buy a $300 card today and this scoundrel told me it was nice front and back and I asked for pics and the back corner was rekt af. For players to look for, the rookies from this year are all worth something esp if they have a good game, Jefferson on the Vikes price went up alot the last few weeks. I except CeeDee's cards to go up too with his play. You can buy packs but you can get someone who you don't want or some chit players, you could luck out also tho.

Thank you! Repped. All the graded Herbert cards are expensive as fuk, but I’ll keep my eye out

[propreffered7]

i have the upper deck lebron rookie set. i bought it as a kid and just stored it away. it's open so no autographs. i would imagine getting them all individually graded would be most valuable but idk if i can be fuked with that..

what should i do with them? they've prob been touched 3 times. i was into basketball prior and knew lebron was good but wasn't into it at the time. so they've just sat there. i think the box got damaged a little but none of the cards

this set:

https://www.steinersports.com/2003-0...-83-4236315998

[Big_Spaz]

You guys want to buy any Jordan’s?

I want a '86 Fleer that's about it






-Spaz

[Miked1978]

I bought 2020 Panini Draft Contenders Mega Box + 2 Blaster Boxes last week. They are going between $70-$120 per blaster box right now on ebay. The MegaBox has a slight tear in the seal but its still sealed and the 2 blasters are perfectly sealed. I was going to open the Mega box and see if I can pull any good cards out and then just sit on the 2 blaster boxes and sell later. Is that a good idea or should I open them all? Just wondering if these box prices will go back down.

[HaiMeesk]

I bought 2020 Panini Draft Contenders Mega Box + 2 Blaster Boxes last week. They are going between $70-$120 per blaster box right now on ebay. The MegaBox has a slight tear in the seal but its still sealed and the 2 blasters are perfectly sealed. I was going to open the Mega box and see if I can pull any good cards out and then just sit on the 2 blaster boxes and sell later. Is that a good idea or should I open them all? Just wondering if these box prices will go back down.

I'd sell them asap. Panini Contenders rookie cards always end up in bargain boxes. Right now there aren't any football 2020 rookies tearing up the league like in basketball.

[GarthVader]

probably not the same realm but any of you guys ever fuk with other card types like Pokémon and chit? Heard they've been making a resurgence.

[WHChampion]

probably not the same realm but any of you guys ever fuk with other card types like Pokémon and chit? Heard they've been making a resurgence.

I don't want to threadjack or anything but I know Magic The Gathering cards had a pretty big boom starting several years ago and it's still going on. I think it's different than other card games in that there is a list of cards from the 90s they won't reprint but are still used in the game. So if you played back then and know where your cards are at it's absolutely worth looking through them. Many cards from then are worth hundreds to thousands of dollars.

Don't really know much about Pokemon. Played when the first few sets came out but have no clue where my cards are. Feels chitty since even though I know I never had any 1st edition cards, I know I had the full set of the printing after that.

[cadetduke]

probably not the same realm but any of you guys ever fuk with other card types like Pokémon and chit? Heard they've been making a resurgence.

I sell this in my shop also.

[SirFapsAIot]

probably not the same realm but any of you guys ever fuk with other card types like Pokémon and chit? Heard they've been making a resurgence.

Pokemon and MTC are going to end up in the same place as sports cards, nothing more than being reduced to commodities. I don't know about Pokemon and counterfeits though, but in sports, Basketball is rife with counterfeits, backdoor cards, scams, I could go on and on and on. There are guys with lots of capital who are making bank off of corruption and they're shaping the market in a way that is most beneficial to them.

I think there are counterfeit cards in MTC though, but unsure about Pokemon.

[WestAfrica]

probably not the same realm but any of you guys ever fuk with other card types like Pokémon and chit? Heard they've been making a resurgence.

Pokemon is rising hard. Logan Paul just bought/sold a 1st edition booster box for 200k. Logic the rapper bought a PSA 10 1st Edition Charizard last week for $220,00. Theres alot of money to be made in all cards, sports pokemon magic.

[GarthVader]

I never got into Pokémon but my little brothers loved it. They always bought the cards. Wonder if they still have them.

[cadetduke]

Sending off a 1951 bowman mantle to psa soon. Going to cost $1000 just to grade. Would hope it gets at least a 5 but looks just as good and better than some 6s and those sell for around 20k.

Sent off a musial 52 bowman and 2 1948 bowmans today along with a random yugioh card I found in a box from a trade. Damn thing goes for over $250 raw and looks to be at least a 9 which sells for $500. I knew nothing about yugioh until I sorted and listed everything lol

[cadetduke]

Just sent this

[Miked1978]

Sending off a 1951 bowman mantle to psa soon. Going to cost $1000 just to grade. Would hope it gets at least a 5 but looks just as good and better than some 6s and those sell for around 20k.

Sent off a musial 52 bowman and 2 1948 bowmans today along with a random yugioh card I found in a box from a trade. Damn thing goes for over $250 raw and looks to be at least a 9 which sells for $500. I knew nothing about yugioh until I sorted and listed everything lol

Where did you get those old cards from?