Reply
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 31 to 60 of 88
  1. #31
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    its not for ripping hard veggies it’s for fighting
    Or maybe it’s both? We don’t have a way to prove either. Also earlier you said canines in humans is one of the reasons you feel we’re meant to eat meat, but now it's for fighting?
    Last edited by AdamWW; 06-19-2020 at 05:38 PM.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  2. #32
    Moderator SuffolkPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 49,988
    Rep Power: 1290142
    SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz
    SuffolkPunch is offline
    I don't think the evolution question is relevant.

    The question at hand is: is including meat in your diet detrimental to performance and/or health? And the answer is that there is no objective evidence of that. I'm guessing the 'seminar' was (at best) a bunch of pet theories and spurious links that would not stand up to a proper peer review and would not be explained by experimental evidence with statistical significance.
    Reply With Quote

  3. #33
    Registered User snailsrus's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2016
    Age: 28
    Posts: 4,794
    Rep Power: 64051
    snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    snailsrus is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Or maybe it’s both? We don’t have a way to prove either. Also earlier you said canines in humans is one of the reasons you feel we’re meant to eat meat, but now it's for fighting?
    I asked my dad, he’s a well published paleontologist with exhibits in the Los Angeles natural history museum and discovered over 50 new mammal species from the Cenozoic era with over 1000 published pages working with Berkeley atm his name is in your pms you can google it
    Insta is username snails.r.us
    Reply With Quote

  4. #34
    Registered Lifter boo99's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2008
    Location: Los Angeles, CA United States
    Posts: 14,022
    Rep Power: 140073
    boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    boo99 is offline
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    I asked my dad, he’s a well published paleontologist with exhibits in the Los Angeles natural history museum and discovered over 50 new mammal species from the Cenozoic era with over 1000 published pages working with Berkeley atm his name is in your pms you can google it
    Can he get me in as a guest VIP friend of Snails?
    NASM CPT

    IG: jeff.galanzzi

    -----------------------------
    RIP my friend D4K
    Reply With Quote

  5. #35
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    I asked my dad, he’s a well published paleontologist with exhibits in the Los Angeles natural history museum and discovered over 50 new mammal species from the Cenozoic era with over 1000 published pages working with Berkeley atm his name is in your pms you can google it
    So I won't argue either way at this point, I'm just still kind of confused because originally (post #11) you mentioned our canine teeth were an indicator of evolving to be 'meant to' eat meat, which I didn't think was correct.... but now the idea is that we have canines because historically we needed to fight off other humans/similar species... which I would agree with. But again, it's not the original argument you made that's all I'm sayin...

    It appears that in fact our canines have nothing to do with meat eating then...
    Last edited by AdamWW; 06-20-2020 at 05:35 PM.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  6. #36
    Registered User Strawng's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2016
    Age: 26
    Posts: 2,510
    Rep Power: 45399
    Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Strawng has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Strawng is online now
    Originally Posted by boo99 View Post
    can he get me in as a guest vip friend of snails?
    lol +1!
    Reply With Quote

  7. #37
    Registered Lifter boo99's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2008
    Location: Los Angeles, CA United States
    Posts: 14,022
    Rep Power: 140073
    boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    boo99 is offline
    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    lol +1!
    Ok snails

    We in for two VIP passes (when it opens again)

    I live 4 miles from it
    NASM CPT

    IG: jeff.galanzzi

    -----------------------------
    RIP my friend D4K
    Reply With Quote

  8. #38
    Registered User paulinkansas's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2018
    Posts: 1,351
    Rep Power: 7173
    paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000) paulinkansas is a name known to all. (+5000)
    paulinkansas is offline
    I was on a hunting trip with some friends and we met another group of guys on the same trip. The other guys had gone on an African big game hunt. To keep the story short, one of the guys shot a baboon. When he went around the bend to get it on the road in the jungle, it stood up and made the loudest piercing scream he had ever heard. He was about 3 feet away from it. It bared it's fangs and they were about 4" long, judging by how far apart his fingers were when he was telling the story. It was hit with a .270. It made the loud scream and ran into the jungle.

    Their guide said to let the baboon go. If they went into the jungle to try and find it, it would find them first. It'll rip a guys arm off and beat everyone else to death with it.
    Reply With Quote

  9. #39
    Registered User snailsrus's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2016
    Age: 28
    Posts: 4,794
    Rep Power: 64051
    snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    snailsrus is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    So I won't argue either way at this point, I'm just still kind of confused because originally (post #11) you mentioned our canine teeth were an indicator of evolving to be 'meant to' eat meat, which I didn't think was correct.... but now the idea is that we have canines because historically we needed to fight off other humans/similar species... which I would agree with. But again, it's not the original argument you made that's all I'm sayin...

    It appears that in fact our canines have nothing to do with meat eating then...
    I said I was wrong and asked my dad who corrected me

    Originally Posted by boo99 View Post
    Ok snails

    We in for two VIP passes (when it opens again)

    I live 4 miles from it
    If it’s open next time I’m in la I can get year passes
    Insta is username snails.r.us
    Reply With Quote

  10. #40
    Registered Lifter boo99's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2008
    Location: Los Angeles, CA United States
    Posts: 14,022
    Rep Power: 140073
    boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) boo99 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    boo99 is offline
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post


    If it’s open next time I’m in la I can get year passes
    Oh right on!!

    I’ll have to buy you a snail based gift to thank you or a Montys Veggie Burger, one of the best in LA
    NASM CPT

    IG: jeff.galanzzi

    -----------------------------
    RIP my friend D4K
    Reply With Quote

  11. #41
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by newblifter95 View Post
    No, It was not titled vegan or had any vegan sponsors it was simply titled "Human Nutrition" with the sub title of "How to maximise human performance", The doctors themselves were not vegan but they did make sure to state that their meat consumption was extremely limited to maybe once to twice per week.
    My doctor (professor) confirms this and he is regular marathon runner and specialized in sports cardiology. One week red meat and one white and if I remember correctly thats because you still need some minerals and vitamins from meat that you cant find in plants. Dont get me wrong I love meat but its just isn't as healthy as the plant based alternatives.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #42
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    My doctor (professor) confirms this and he is regular marathon runner and specialized in sports cardiology. One week red meat and one white and if I remember correctly thats because you still need some minerals and vitamins from meat that you cant find in plants. Dont get me wrong I love meat but its just isn't as healthy as the plant based alternatives.
    Name them.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  13. #43
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Name them.
    It was a conversation I had with him some time ago cant remember right now but ill ask him and get back to you.
    Reply With Quote

  14. #44
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    It was a conversation I had with him some time ago cant remember right now but ill ask him and get back to you.
    I'll save you the effort... there is none.

    B12 is the only one found almost only in animal products, but there is actually a plant-source of natural b12 from duckweed.

    So, in short, there is no mineral or vitamin you cannot get from plants... even mushrooms can contain vitamin D.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  15. #45
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I'll save you the effort... there is none.

    B12 is the only one found almost only in animal products, but there is actually a plant-source of natural b12 from duckweed.

    So, in short, there is no mineral or vitamin you cannot get from plants... even mushrooms can contain vitamin D.
    Ok so.. I guess if you cant find duckweed its better to eat meat than nothing right?
    Reply With Quote

  16. #46
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    Ok so.. I guess if you cant find duckweed its better to eat meat than nothing right?
    Or buy an extremely cheap b12 supplement.... which will likely provide even better absorption in certain forms and has a more accurate amount by volume.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  17. #47
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Or buy an extremely cheap b12 supplement.... which will likely provide even better absorption in certain forms and has a more accurate amount by volume.
    I guess the question then is how healthy are supplements compared to real food?
    Reply With Quote

  18. #48
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    I guess the question then is how healthy are supplements compared to real food?
    What does that even mean? B12 is a vitamin that you need to survive eventually... so... why would it not be 'healthy'?

    It's not like the b12 spray or pill has poison in it. If it gives your body the vitamin that increases your body's levels of it... obviously it's adding to your health.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  19. #49
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    What does that even mean? B12 is a vitamin that you need to survive eventually... so... why would it not be 'healthy'?

    It's not like the b12 spray or pill has poison in it. If it gives your body the vitamin that increases your body's levels of it... obviously it's adding to your health.
    Yeah I guess for one vitamin maybe you can do that but you still will be missing other ingredients that you can take from food. Anyways...
    Reply With Quote

  20. #50
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    Yeah I guess for one vitamin maybe you can do that but you still will be missing other ingredients that you can take from food. Anyways...
    Like I said, anything except b12 is easily found in plant foods... so, what exactly would be 'missing' otherwise?

    For example.... if you ate the following for a ~2400 calorie diet, you'd meet ALL your vitamin/mineral needs except b12:

    10oz potatoes
    300g (raw) lentils
    2oz almonds
    200g kale
    150g spinach
    100g oatmeal
    1 cup blueberries
    5oz extra firm tofu

    That's 135g protein, 355g carbs, 52g fat.


    And then all you'd need in some sun for vitamin D... done.

    Now, would I want to just eat that? No, but i'm just saying it's very simple to do.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  21. #51
    Registered User snailsrus's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2016
    Age: 28
    Posts: 4,794
    Rep Power: 64051
    snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    snailsrus is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    Yeah I guess for one vitamin maybe you can do that but you still will be missing other ingredients that you can take from food. Anyways...
    you really won’t. I was vegan for 4 years as a teenager and my labs were always good

    You’ve yet to name what you would be missing
    Insta is username snails.r.us
    Reply With Quote

  22. #52
    Expert Hnbn1's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2018
    Posts: 868
    Rep Power: 7549
    Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000) Hnbn1 is a name known to all. (+5000)
    Hnbn1 is offline
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    I said I was wrong
    No you didn't and you called him huffy so that was not nice
    Reply With Quote

  23. #53
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Like I said, anything except b12 is easily found in plant foods... so, what exactly would be 'missing' otherwise?

    For example.... if you ate the following for a ~2400 calorie diet, you'd meet ALL your vitamin/mineral needs except b12:

    10oz potatoes
    300g (raw) lentils
    2oz almonds
    200g kale
    150g spinach
    100g oatmeal
    1 cup blueberries
    5oz extra firm tofu

    That's 135g protein, 355g carbs, 52g fat.


    And then all you'd need in some sun for vitamin D... done.

    Now, would I want to just eat that? No, but i'm just saying it's very simple to do.
    Damn thats why I am struggling with the idea of going vegetarian with maybe 1 time a week meat because this is so much food and preparation just to replace meat. Sorry dont mean to hijack this thread ill make a new one with my questions about vegetarian diet.

    And to answer your question Adam... I just prefer eating real food since I live on a place near the Mediterranean sea I just go and buy some sardines or any other fish. So I think one time a week eating chicken breast, a good lean steak or fish is not so bad just to have the b12 vitamin.
    Reply With Quote

  24. #54
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Hnbn1 View Post
    No you didn't and you called him huffy so that was not nice
    Yeah I didn't catch anything saying 'wrong'... but it's kind of water under the bridge at this point
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  25. #55
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    you really won’t. I was vegan for 4 years as a teenager and my labs were always good

    You’ve yet to name what you would be missing
    Yeah I know I am advocating a vegetarian diet kinda or something like the middle way. And we named already what is missing from a vegan diet, unless you want to eat tons of duckweed, who eats that anyways.
    Reply With Quote

  26. #56
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    Damn thats why I am struggling with the idea of going vegetarian with maybe 1 time a week meat because this is so much food and preparation just to replace meat. Sorry dont mean to hijack this thread ill make a new one with my questions about vegetarian diet.

    And to answer your question Adam... I just prefer eating real food since I live on a place near the Mediterranean sea I just go and buy some sardines or any other fish. So I think one time a week eating chicken breast, a good lean steak or fish is not so bad just to have the b12 vitamin.
    Im not preaching dude, I eat salmon a few times a week and I eat some dairy products... but I was 100% vegan for 3 years and I had zero issues getting vitamins and minerals at all...

    Even now, i have made only tiny changes compared to when I was vegan, and it's purely for convenience and lifestyle/time factors.

    I'm not sure what you mean by that diet being time consuming.... you can buy lentils, cook them in a pot in advance and it lasts for days... or freeze them. Oats, berries, all that other stuff is extremely easy to make... it's not hard at all. You can literally microwave almost everything I put in there... and that was just a random example of a day I built in 2 minutes...

    Again, no one is saying you have to be a vegetarian or not eat any animal products.. i'm just saying it's silly to say you cannot meet your nutrient needs while doing so.
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  27. #57
    Registered User snailsrus's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2016
    Age: 28
    Posts: 4,794
    Rep Power: 64051
    snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) snailsrus has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    snailsrus is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Yeah I didn't catch anything saying 'wrong'... but it's kind of water under the bridge at this point
    it was implied that when I asked my dad I was corrected and should have said I was wrong. When I changed my stance I figured I was eating my own words because it was a different theory on the purpose of the teeth.
    Insta is username snails.r.us
    Reply With Quote

  28. #58
    Registered User Drewie79's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2018
    Age: 50
    Posts: 18
    Rep Power: 0
    Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50) Drewie79 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Drewie79 is offline
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Im not preaching dude, I eat salmon a few times a week and I eat some dairy products... but I was 100% vegan for 3 years and I had zero issues getting vitamins and minerals at all...

    Again, no one is saying you have to be a vegetarian or not eat any animal products.. i'm just saying it's silly to say you cannot meet your nutrient needs while doing so.
    Never claimed that you were preaching or that you cant meet your nutrients with vegan diet... just thought I mention that there is a validity in eating meat once a week since you need that b12 vitamin unless you want to eat duckweed or take supplements so in that case you can go full vegan I guess. All good?
    Reply With Quote

  29. #59
    team ketchup AdamWW's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
    Posts: 19,956
    Rep Power: 101317
    AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) AdamWW has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    AdamWW is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    Never claimed that you were preaching or that you cant meet your nutrients with vegan diet... just thought I mention that there is a validity in eating meat once a week since you need that b12 vitamin unless you want to eat duckweed or take supplements so in that case you can go full vegan I guess. All good?
    Or, you can eat fortified foods which contain it... like nutritional yeast (which it delicious) or certain cereals, non-dairy milk alternatives, etc....
    The power of carbs compels me!
    Reply With Quote

  30. #60
    Gaintaining Mrpb's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2012
    Location: Netherlands
    Posts: 29,401
    Rep Power: 151461
    Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Mrpb has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Mrpb is offline
    Originally Posted by Drewie79 View Post
    My doctor (professor) confirms this and he is regular marathon runner and specialized in sports cardiology. One week red meat and one white and if I remember correctly thats because you still need some minerals and vitamins from meat that you cant find in plants.
    Unfortunately doctors do not get any training in nutrition and it shows.
    Recommended science based fitness & nutrition information:
    Alan Aragon https://alanaragon.com/
    Brad Schoenfeld http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/
    James Krieger https://weightology.net/
    Jorn Trommelen http://www.nutritiontactics.com/
    Eric Helms & Team3DMJ https://3dmusclejourney.com/
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts