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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    provide something to back up anything that you claim.
    That would be something completely new and different!
    Why, people post "did not read" and no one is going to do what you do and post endless charts and graphs.
    That stuff gets mostly skipped over because as you know this is an OPINION FORUM not a facts and data forum.

    When you post a direct factual link, people claim like clockwork in order
    1. that writer or Author is biased
    2. that publication is biased
    3. fake news because it disagrees with my current ideology
    4. those facts are not true because i disagree with them or my party tells me otherwise( OAN, FOX, Breitbart, you know the rest)

    We played that game ( since 2008) and no ONE EVER CHANGES THEIR OPINION; so now just spout opinions like the 90 percenters that occupy this subforum.

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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So you're saying Baltimore sucks, but not as bad as Chicago?
    Having been to both recently, you navigate both carefully.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Why, people post "did not read" and no one is going to do what you do and post endless charts and graphs.
    That stuff gets mostly skipped over because as you know this is an OPINION FORUM not a facts and data forum.

    When you post a direct factual link, people claim like clockwork in order
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    3. fake news because it disagrees with my current ideology
    4. those facts are not true because i disagree with them or my party tells me otherwise( OAN, FOX, Breitbart, you know the rest)

    We played that game ( since 2008) and no ONE EVER CHANGES THEIR OPINION; so now just spout opinions like the 90 percenters that occupy this subforum.

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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    I’m not sure you saw what I did there
    I saw what you did, but i went in a diff direction, 2008 "old school", and educated you on what has happened to this place and why it isn't as good as it used to be.

    This stuff is very easy to point out; it is all tactics with very little factual basis for anything.
    Pay close attention, you too can see the obvious strategies of the most prolific posters in the R+P subforum.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Why, people post "did not read" and no one is going to do what you do and post endless charts and graphs.
    That stuff gets mostly skipped over because as you know this is an OPINION FORUM not a facts and data forum.

    When you post a direct factual link, people claim like clockwork in order
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I saw what you did, but i went in a diff direction, 2008 "old school", and educated you on what has happened to this place and why it isn't as good as it used to be.

    This stuff is very easy to point out; it is all tactics with very little factual basis for anything.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Having been to both recently, you navigate both carefully.
    I think its pretty obvious what areas to avoid in Chicago.
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    Then why post 2 responses to 2 separate posts, seems hypocritical and illogical?

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Then why post 2 responses to 2 separate posts, seems hypocritical and illogical?
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    lmao any1 notice sillie stopped hoping and praying that deaths would hit 1k after a week of them never reaching 1k?
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    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post
    lmao any1 notice sillie stopped hoping and praying that deaths would hit 1k after a week of them never reaching 1k?
    wait two more weeks
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    it is turesday so im sure sillie is sitting home doing nothing hoping 1k people are reported dead so he can say i told u so.

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    so VA was 76% reported positive but it was actually 6%

    now we find out that FL was reporting 98% positive but in reality it was 9.4%

    lmao keep believing the media

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    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post
    it is turesday so im sure sillie is sitting home doing nothing hoping 1k people are reported dead so he can say i told u so.

    sillie = governor cuomo
    Semi ot but for some reason there does seem to be a weekly pattern to the data in Texas. Both cases and fatalities have lows on Mondays, and they seem to peak mid to late weak.

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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    so VA was 76% reported positive but it was actually 6%

    now we find out that FL was reporting 98% positive but in reality it was 9.4%

    lmao keep believing the media

    Good find... a nice nugget of disinformation to obscure the overwhelming overall facts. Hold onto that tight to comfort yourself.
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    Originally Posted by B.O.L.A. View Post
    Semi ot but for some reason there does seem to be a weekly pattern to the data in Texas. Both cases and fatalities have lows on Mondays, and they seem to peak mid to late weak.
    The explanation I heard was twofold:

    1. Some people who get sick on the weekends will wait until a weekday to see a doctor, for various reasons.

    2. There is less staffing in many areas on the weekends, so reporting on weekends gets pushed into the following week. So part of what you see on a Tuesday is the weekend cases finally getting processed and updated.

    I'm not sure how true it all is, but there tends to be a dip every weekend and then a spike around Tuesday (like you said). So it makes sense.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    The explanation I heard was twofold:

    1. Some people who get sick on the weekends will wait until a weekday to see a doctor, for various reasons.

    2. There is less staffing in many areas on the weekends, so reporting on weekends gets pushed into the following week. So part of what you see on a Tuesday is the weekend cases finally getting processed and updated.

    I'm not sure how true it all is, but there tends to be a dip every weekend and then a spike around Tuesday (like you said). So it makes sense.
    This is pretty much on point, and applies to many countries. It's right there in the data.
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    No - that's not what its about.

    But I will keep reading and see how many people fall for this low IQ debate trick of trying to isolate a subset of a subset to distract from the overall issue.

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    Cool. The overall issue is the Trump administration has been abysmal in every way, so good to hear you'd like to stay on topic now.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Cool. The overall issue is the Trump administration has been abysmal in every way, so good to hear you'd like to stay on topic now.
    who would have handled coronavirus better?
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    so VA was 76% reported positive but it was actually 6%

    now we find out that FL was reporting 98% positive but in reality it was 9.4%

    lmao keep believing the media

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    Good find... a nice nugget of disinformation to obscure the overwhelming overall facts. Hold onto that tight to comfort yourself.
    let me guess your liberal sources are more reliable than his conservative source?
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    who would have handled coronavirus better?
    The list is long but distinguished.
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    let me guess your liberal sources are more reliable than his conservative source?
    A red state's dept of health is now a liberal source?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    The list is long but distinguished.
    nancy pelosi? who was encouraging people to go to chinatown while the virus was around?

    bill deblasio and andrew cuomo who were encouraging people to go out in march? andrew cuomo who kills old people?

    phil murphy who kills old people?

    gretchen himmler in michigan?


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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    is this real life?
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