Fantasy Football discussion 2020

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

frankly so is herbert at this point he was tremendous just about every single week this year

Definitely, I used him in one league and it played out well. He only had 1 or 2 lousy weeks. Rolling Hurts was a ballsy move in the ship. Rookie QB on his second start. Take away that 80yd bomb to D-Jax and he had a lousy showing.

[TyGuy505]

I benched Allen for Hurts. Feels bad

Benched Allen for Rodgers in the semis and it cost me the win. Never benching Allen again

[Murph0408]

my picks for biggest busts. trying to keep preseason expectations in mind.

QB Carson Wentz. historically bad after finishing strong last year. never looked anywhere near this bad in his first 3 years
RB1 Mccaffrey, in and out of the lineup, rumors of returning for the fantasy playoffs then the mysterious thigh injury
RB2 Mixon, basically sucked outside of week 4 and then got hurt

WR1 Michael Thomas, never cracked 20 in a half PPR, got hurt a bunch
WR2 Golladay, i had all the expectations on earth of him, i thought he'd do what metcalf did (which was basically his '19).
WR3 DJ Chark, looked like he was about to go nuts this year on a bad team that'd always be behind. instead was inconsistent, ghostly, and had a few little injuries

TE Ertz, mostly a product of his wonderful QB, also hurt

honorable mentions -
Hayden Hurst preseason love didn't translate to much
Mark Ingram, we knew he'd pass the torch eventually but damn
Odell Beckham, right away it was clear he wasn't getting the targets, then he got hurt
Devante Parker, top 10 WR last year, constant nagging injuries all season

[Jayarbie]

my picks for biggest busts. trying to keep preseason expectations in mind.

QB Carson Wentz. historically bad after finishing strong last year. never looked anywhere near this bad in his first 3 years
RB1 Mccaffrey, in and out of the lineup, rumors of returning for the fantasy playoffs then the mysterious thigh injury
RB2 Mixon, basically sucked outside of week 4 and then got hurt

WR1 Michael Thomas, never cracked 20 in a half PPR, got hurt a bunch
WR2 Golladay, i had all the expectations on earth of him, i thought he'd do what metcalf did (which was basically his '19).
WR3 DJ Chark, looked like he was about to go nuts this year on a bad team that'd always be behind. instead was inconsistent, ghostly, and had a few little injuries

TE Ertz, mostly a product of his wonderful QB, also hurt

honorable mentions -
Hayden Hurst preseason love didn't translate to much
Mark Ingram, we knew he'd pass the torch eventually but damn
Odell Beckham, right away it was clear he wasn't getting the targets, then he got hurt
Devante Parker, top 10 WR last year, constant nagging injuries all season

The biggest fantasy busts this year were the top 3 picks in every draft - CMC, Barkley, & Zeke.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

It was a brutal season this year for fantasy....

[TyGuy505]

my picks for biggest busts. trying to keep preseason expectations in mind.

QB Carson Wentz. historically bad after finishing strong last year. never looked anywhere near this bad in his first 3 years
RB1 Mccaffrey, in and out of the lineup, rumors of returning for the fantasy playoffs then the mysterious thigh injury
RB2 Mixon, basically sucked outside of week 4 and then got hurt

WR1 Michael Thomas, never cracked 20 in a half PPR, got hurt a bunch
WR2 Golladay, i had all the expectations on earth of him, i thought he'd do what metcalf did (which was basically his '19).
WR3 DJ Chark, looked like he was about to go nuts this year on a bad team that'd always be behind. instead was inconsistent, ghostly, and had a few little injuries

TE Ertz, mostly a product of his wonderful QB, also hurt

honorable mentions -
Hayden Hurst preseason love didn't translate to much
Mark Ingram, we knew he'd pass the torch eventually but damn
Odell Beckham, right away it was clear he wasn't getting the targets, then he got hurt
Devante Parker, top 10 WR last year, constant nagging injuries all season

Lamar Jackson was drafted as QB1 or QB2 in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He finished as QB9. Definitely not worth the draft capital spent to acquire him. CEH was drafted as high as 3rd and 4th in some drafts I saw (I am ashamed to say I was one of those) and was an RB2.

[WHChampion]

Bell was a pretty bad bust. RB2 last year to totally unplayable.

[dyee4613]

a guy did this exact move in our work league and blew the final. lost by like 6 and allen went nuts on monday on his bench.

i'm not playing hindsight with you but i just don't understand that. hurts looked fine yes but allen is likely THE reason you got to where you were. the pats are shot. i just don't get the thought process behind it.

Nah, I get it. For some reason, this is a week 17 championship league so it was a semi-final game. I only mention that because I was the 6th seed facing the 1 seed. My team wasn't that good (THANKS MIXON) and I was projected to lose by 10 or so points. I'm not a huge projection fan but it matched my general read as well. Anyway, I mention this because my thought process was I was going to lose with my roster as it was and my only chance was to stack it with as many high-upside guys as I could and hope to get lucky. 2/3 moves backfired spectacularly. Here was my "logic"

Pro Hurts:
- Hurts just went off against a decent AZ
- Dallas is the 6th best defense for QB
- Dallas is the 9th best defense against RB's and Hurts runs a lot
- I feel like the odds of him repeating is pretty high since teams can't gameplan against him with such little notice

It looked like a genius pick at the start. Hurts had a great drive with a rushing TD taken away and then an 81 yard bomb. He was up to like 12 points in the 1st quarter...then disappeared.

Case against Allen:
- He had his worst game of the year vs NE (13 points week 8)
- New England is the 25th best defense against QB's
- Cold-weather games feature less explosive offense (lol)
- He is facing the GOAT coach

It obviously looks bad now but most "experts" had Hurts above Allen in their week 16 rankings.

TL;DR - I'm an idiot

[Murph0408]

looking at next year briefly - man i'm taking Derrick Henry 1 overall. i don't care. give me the biggest baddest guy who doesn't get hurt.

people will be going out and getting dalvin cook or mccaffrey. but look around. the last few years we've seen david johnson, saquon, todd gurley, and now CMC go from top dog to injury prone within a year or two. i know he doesn't catch passes so in a full PPR it's probably not smart but otherwise if anyone wants Henry first i don't blame them one bit.

[Madvillainy]

there's a definite top 5 group for next year regardless of format with:

cook
henry
mccaffrey
barkley
kamara

chubb will be close but i think it's tough to overlook the receiving game like you can with henry.

ekeler will probably go really high in PPR.

i could see an argument for adams 1st, but the rarity of a top back is more prevalent now than ever so it would be really tough to not take one in the top 5.

[MURedHawk235]

Any one have a resource for fantasy playoffs? I am in a league with 7 guys where you draft 2 QBs, 2 RB, 3 pass catchers (WR/TE), 2 Flex, 2 Def.

I was hoping to find a tierlist or overall rankings list but can't seem to find one based on projected super bowl teams

[Fiz-iks]

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