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    Lifting after 40: maintain or progress?

    Should lifters change their routine after 40, and adopt a more maintenance-oriented mindset, or keep trying to progress?
    I know they say heavy compound lifts in the 3-5 range is where it's at for keeping your testosterone levels high etc., but what about injury prevention, joint and vascular health etc.?
    Is getting on gear really the only way or is natty more sustainable?
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    No.

    There are plenty of folk out there who can and do progress over the age of 40.

    From a personal point I have just had reconstructive surgery on my right shoulder, and have spent the last 6 months building my arm / shoulder and back, to where it was before. Done without TRT and just with hard work. Now I'm there I have no intention of stopping just because I'm in the 40's. I still run, I still compete in an open category in taekwon-do, and I can still train with all my guys at work.

    Any activity will increase test, but rest is very important, the only difference between me now and me 20 years ago, is that I need rest, no longer can I recover on a mars bar and marley red.
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    Originally Posted by Eternalstuden79 View Post
    No.

    There are plenty of folk out there who can and do progress over the age of 40.

    From a personal point I have just had reconstructive surgery on my right shoulder, and have spent the last 6 months building my arm / shoulder and back, to where it was before. Done without TRT and just with hard work. Now I'm there I have no intention of stopping just because I'm in the 40's. I still run, I still compete in an open category in taekwon-do, and I can still train with all my guys at work.

    Any activity will increase test, but rest is very important, the only difference between me now and me 20 years ago, is that I need rest, no longer can I recover on a mars bar and marley red.
    I have some shoulder problems too. What did you do to recover so fast?
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    Closing in on 65 and still progressing. I didn't start until 59, though. A lot depends on individual circumstances.
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    got back into it at 56, and about to turn 62, and still hitting PB's



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    Didn’t really start until 42...so if I would have given up on progress at age 40, I’d really have been screwed.

    I wonder why age 40 has gotten this reputation as the cut off age when your over the hill? I noticed minor changes as I got to the 50 zone, but I’m guessing I’ve got another 5-10 years before I feel like I’ve hit the apex of “the hill”.
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Didn’t really start until 42...so if I would have given up on progress at age 40, I’d really have been screwed.

    I wonder why age 40 has gotten this reputation as the cut off age when your over the hill? I noticed minor changes as I got to the 50 zone, but I’m guessing I’ve got another 5-10 years before I feel like I’ve hit the apex of “the hill”.
    I guess 40 is the new 80. As long as the focus is on big bang for energy buck compound exercises, you'll have a lot more than 5-10 years. The greatest error is stopping.
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    Originally Posted by bropheus View Post
    I have some shoulder problems too. What did you do to recover so fast?
    To explain:
    I detached long head bicep, sup spin, inferior gleno/hum ligament, and a labral tear. (work related injury of a superior shoulder dislocation)

    How did I recover, I had it all fixed in a single opp. Post opp physio started 4 days after opp.

    Then it was slow steady and balanced. My shoulder was not as much of a bother as my back was, as I deconditioned very quickly. Mobility work was essential, as was isometrics and pause work.

    I have changed my focus from demanding that I lift heavy, I now do a lot more targeted work and blood flow restriction work. Both of these things I would have benefited from 20 years ago but I wanted that 500lb DL and squat more than I wanted to be sensible !!!

    Most importantly was the desire to not be broken :-)
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    I wonder why age 40 has gotten this reputation as the cut off age when your over the hill? I noticed minor changes as I got to the 50 zone, but I’m guessing I’ve got another 5-10 years before I feel like I’ve hit the apex of “the hill”.
    OP is perhaps 19yo, thats what it is. At that age, 40 or 60 is same number, surrealistic, far away from now.
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    I had a pretty bare bones lifting program while I was boxing in my 30s. Now that I'm done competing, I figured at 40 it's time to start progressing.
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    Unless you have very poor genetics 40 really isn't that old. One can still gain strength and muscle mass pass 40. I didn't start lifting weights until my late 40s.
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    You need to do more lifting with them.
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    You need to do more lifting with them.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    Closing in on 65 and still progressing. I didn't start until 59, though. A lot depends on individual circumstances.
    100% well said.Im still a work in progress and I've been lighting over 40 years.
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    40?? lol I'll be 51 next week and still gaining. Very slow but still making progress.

    It's definitely harder as we get older, if natty, but still doable. And I feel that your diet and training techniques become far more important.
    When we were younger, we could eat anything and almost any sort of training program would yield results.
    Now, I feel I have to be really dialed in with all aspects to make progress.

    As far as whether one "should maintain or try to progress" is a personal decision. If you are happy with your physique then maintain. But I wouldn't let age tell you that you cannot make progress if that's your goal.
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    Plenty of ripped men over 50. I'd do what it takes to build mass. You should stop progressing only when you fall over dead.
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    Great to see some of the older lifters in this thread. I’m 37 coming up on 40, so not quite there yet. I think progress still occurs but at a slower rate as you get older. As others have said everything has to be on point (rest, nutrition, form) for it to occur.
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    Originally Posted by bropheus View Post
    Should lifters change their routine after 40, and adopt a more maintenance-oriented mindset, or keep trying to progress?
    I know they say heavy compound lifts in the 3-5 range is where it's at for keeping your testosterone levels high etc., but what about injury prevention, joint and vascular health etc.?
    Is getting on gear really the only way or is natty more sustainable?
    You have to try to progress in order to maintain.
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    I recently got back into lifting a few months ago after having gastric sleeve surgery for weight loss & other obesity related morbidities last year. While I definitely lost muscle mass & strength during my 80lb shed over 7 months, getting back into lifting seems to have not only arrested the muscle & strength atrophy, I am once again seeing my lifts increase regularly despite still losing 1-2 lbs weekly.

    So for me @ 48 - maintaining is a form of decline. Not sure what age progress becomes impossible, but I'm guessing it's near 70
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    I got into the best shape of my life just recently. 40 really isn‘t that old for weightlifting.
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    Progress definitely! No more sore joints, diet is better than ever, enjoying my workouts! To me that's progress. Numbers on my lifts are secondary to these things. But that doesn't mean they won't go up. Enjoy the process.
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    I recently got back into lifting a few months ago after having gastric sleeve surgery for weight loss & other obesity related morbidities last year. While I definitely lost muscle mass & strength during my 80lb shed over 7 months, getting back into lifting seems to have not only arrested the muscle & strength atrophy, I am once again seeing my lifts increase regularly despite still losing 1-2 lbs weekly.

    So for me @ 48 - maintaining is a form of decline. Not sure what age progress becomes impossible, but I'm guessing it's near 70
    Boy oh boy are you ever wrong! I'm almost 71 and just this morning I added 20 lbs to my deadlift. I don't really like talking about numbers, because I think comparisons are a mistake, but a few years back, I started swinging 35 lb kettlebells and now I'm swinging a 120 lb kettlebell.
    I don't know what the key is for people in their 40's, because it's really young, but for me, the key is patience.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Boy oh boy are you ever wrong! I'm almost 71 and just this morning I added 20 lbs to my deadlift. I don't really like talking about numbers, because I think comparisons are a mistake, but a few years back, I started swinging 35 lb kettlebells and now I'm swinging a 120 lb kettlebell.
    I don't know what the key is for people in their 40's, because it's really young, but for me, the key is patience.
    That's awesome. I plan on going hard until I absolutely can't. Not sure I'll look like Vince McMahon at 70, but I'll die trying lol.
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    That's awesome. I plan on going hard until I absolutely can't. Not sure I'll look like Vince McMahon at 70, but I'll die trying lol.
    If you're fit and healthy, no age is over the hill old. My 'always advice' is to make a relatively short duration extreme physical exertion on a daily or near daily basis. It doesn't boil down to a one rep max deadlift, though, but rather, something like carrying two big buckets of water a mile up a hill. That's 'relatively short'.
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