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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    top 5 states for murders per capita are red. There's a reason for that.



    No that isn't my solution.



    Cars weren't designed to kill, firearms are. The primary function of a vehicle is to transport passengers to and from different locations.



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    With the way ammo sales are going right now, it might be a good time to look into reloading your own ammo. You could probably quit your job and make a decent living

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Okay? So suddenly that makes the police officer justified in this completely unrelated incident? You folk who try to smear him are as pathetic as those trying to turn him into a saint.
    America has a high crime rate because of the George Floyds of the world.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post

    Out of 23 countries, 90% of children (aged 0-12) gun deaths occurred in the US alone.
    How many kids aged 0-12 died from gunshot in the United States last year?
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    The gun control argument is dead

    After all of this rioting and looting, dems should never bring it up again. In fact, most liberals I know (and I live in California) are first time gun owners... I have received 4 text messages (from democrats who were previously anti-2A... they would say ‘why do you need a gun just call police etc’ ) since the first riot asking where I get my guns and if I have extra ammo etc . Everyone is gonna be strapped now, except for the extreme far left
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    top 5 states for murders per capita are red. There's a reason for that.


    Huh? Again...how and why are you so disingenuous? I really do not understand how a person, or group of persons, can just lie so much.

    It completely negates any argument that you have.

    Look at ANY peer reviewed study. The most murders/violent crimes in total are your dem controlled large cities.

    Detroit and Flint MI. NYC. Chicago. Baltimore. New Orleans. Oakland. Los Angeles. Miami.

    What is the common theme there? One.....dem controlled CITIES. Two....minority based. One demo especially.

    There is a reason that black on black murders are the highest in the US. And doo you think most of those people that commit murders in these cities went to their local gun store and got a permit for their gun?

    GTFO.

    The highest rates of murders per city are dem controlled. I would post links but don't have 50 posts yet.


    ALL dem leftist controlled cities. Not states. CITIES.

    If want TOTAL murders? It is almost impossible to find. I wonder why that is? It is like pulling teeth trying to find it. But they are ALL dem controlled cities.

    What you just did was take states that are red, like Louisiana for example, and say those are red states and look how many murders they have and look how high their per capita murder rate it. Which is very VERY misleading.

    For example....

    Louisiana is a red state that in its rural areas have lots of whites, but its big cities like Baton Rouge or New Orleans, which make up a HUGE % of that states population, have lots of blacks. Well....if you look at the crime stats, those cities are listed as having consistently some of the most killings in the USA. And they are BLUE controlled cities. So if you then take those stats and add them into the total state murder rate? Of course it will make the entire state look bad despite every area outside of those 2 large cities having a very low murder rate. That takes the overall rate for those cities UP despite whites not committing anywhere close to the murders that blacks do in those states.

    So basically, you are lying. As most people like you do.

    When you look at the TOTAL murders per year for every American city? The top 20 are ALWAYS dem controlled leftist citiies.

    Just stop with your outright lies.
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    Gun control advocates are going to have a hard time...
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    Originally Posted by StopitFocker View Post
    Huh? Again...how and why are you so disingenuous? I really do not understand how a person, or group of persons, can just lie so much.
    says the Russian farm-troll who just created an account.

    Look at ANY peer reviewed study.
    I am, by the American Journal of Medicine. The NRA made sure the CDC wasn't able to research gun violence for decades. That's come to an end. Which scientific studies have you been sourcing?

    The most murders/violent crimes in total are your dem controlled large cities.
    Yea most violent crimes are in cities where there's a shtload more people - go figure. Big cities are always run by democrats because of the inherent nature of cities - people of all walks of life coming together to coexist.

    The top 5 states for murder per capita:

    1. louisana
    2. alabama
    3. mississippi
    4. missouri
    5. alaska

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...rate-by-state/ (who is sourcing FBI data)

    Notice a theme? Republicans don't know how to govern. Big cities in RED states do the shttiest.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    America has a high crime rate because of the George Floyds of the world.
    Oh how you have changed.. Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!



    Now you're ignored with posts like "America has a high crime rate because of the George Floyds.."



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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Gun control advocates are going to have a hard time...
    Every black protester should be armed correct?
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    Could you imagine pretending to be a gun expert for a country you don't even live in?

    Holy fuk.
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    FYI socialists generally oppose gun control [insert Karl Marx quote]. I’m usually called a socialist by Republicans so this does not compute.
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post




    Are you always wrong? Or just when you and your shill team are on a massive propaganda push?
    Hey tam tam....you ignored this post.

    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post



    Every black protester should be armed correct?
    What the fukk is this supposed to mean? What's your point here?
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    says the Russian farm-troll who just created an account.



    I am, by the American Journal of Medicine. The NRA made sure the CDC wasn't able to research gun violence for decades. That's come to an end. Which scientific studies have you been sourcing?



    Yea most violent crimes are in cities where there's a shtload more people - go figure. Big cities are always run by democrats because of the inherent nature of cities - people of all walks of life coming together to coexist.

    The top 5 states for murder per capita:

    1. louisana
    2. alabama
    3. mississippi
    4. missouri
    5. alaska



    Notice a theme? Republicans don't know how to govern. Big cities in RED states do the shttiest.
    I am as far from a Russian bot as possible. Am I a 230 bowler or a Russian bot or a stock trader making $700 K a year? Cmon.

    And I just got done explaining how you are taking red controlled states, with only one or two BLUE controlled cities within them, and then saying those states are murder caps of the USA.

    It is just very misleading....and you know that.

    What I want you do to is post the cities with the MOST murders PER YEAR in the USA.

    And, as you will see, they are all blue controlled cities.

    So just stop.
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    Oh how you have changed.. Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!



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    Every black protester should be armed correct?
    Unless they are prohibited persons, why not?
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    Every black protester should be armed correct?
    Black protestors are well within their rights to be armed. You mad?

    Are you being racist by assuming we think the 2A should not extend to them? It’s almost like YOU have an implicit issue with black people being armed, and you are projecting that fear onto us through your question... but what argument are you trying to make exactly?
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    Hey tam tam....you ignored this post.



    What the fukk is this supposed to mean? What's your point here?
    He's trying to make this about race because he doesn't understand that gun rights activists don't care what color you are.

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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    He's trying to make this about race because he doesn't understand that gun rights activists don't care what color you are.

    Sword's AR 15 doesn't frighten me, derp
    I call BS. All gun rights activists are redneck racists from the south.
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    I am as far from a Russian bot as possible. Am I a 230 bowler or a Russian bot or a stock trader making $700 K a year? Cmon.

    And I just got done explaining how you are taking red controlled states, with only one or two BLUE controlled cities within them, and then saying those states are murder caps of the USA.

    It is just very misleading....and you know that.

    What I want you do to is post the cities with the MOST murders PER YEAR in the USA.

    And, as you will see, they are all blue controlled cities.

    So just stop.
    You're the one who is having a difficult time with data and facts. I see right through your bullchit, your entire argument is that blacks are to blame for the gun violence in America. That's why you can't handle this info and keep pointing towards "blue cities" run by democrats. Yea buddy, we've heard the russian talking points for a few years now. You guys all regurgitate the exact same sht.

    Crime is always more common in bigger cities. You're more likely to have more murders in a city of 6 million than a city of 100,000 even per capita due to the congestion of people and crime. The fact is the cities in the red states have more murders in them per capita than the blue ones. There is likely republican gun policies at play that are making the violence in these red states worse. Also the African-American communities in red states do worse than the ones in the blue states, where they tend to thrive and move upward in social mobility, once again indicating that social programs paid via taxation can be effective.

    The blue states also fund the red states. And the red states leech the most from the federal government, while contributing the least.
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    I noticed walmart here pulled all their guns. Prob for safety reasons if they get looted by these peaceful protestors
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    Tammy's using old data, the next year's data has MD at 5.

    Tammy is a distraction.

    The riots have shown that the police aren't coming, and you're on your own.
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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    Hey tam tam....you ignored this post.

    It's dumb. The two have nothing to do with each other. The "homicide rate" was dropping completely independent from "gun ownership". But you know that.



    What the fukk is this supposed to mean? What's your point here?
    Gun supporters think everyone should be armed. Would it be a good idea for black protesters to buy ARs and walk around like the anti-mask, white people who were mad that they couldn't get a haircut?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Gun supporters think everyone should be armed. Would it be a good idea for black protesters to buy ARs and walk around like the anti-mask, white people who were mad that they couldn't get a haircut?
    If they're legally allowed to have that firearm. Abso-fukking-lutely. WTF is wrong with you?

    Youre obviously race baiting and assuming gun owners and 2A supporters are racist.

    Fukking negged off RC. You're absolutely pathetic.
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    I noticed walmart here pulled all their guns. Prob for safety reasons if they get looted by these peaceful protestors
    Yea they announced they were doing it about a few days ago due to the protests

    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Tammy's using old data, the next year's data has MD at 5.
    Then why don't you post your source? And Oh no, "Bodymore, Murderland" creeps into top 5 with the other 4 red states.

    The riots have shown that the police aren't coming, and you're on your own.
    I agree, arm yourselves. But my original point was about how flooding more guns into circulation is making the overall gun violence problem worse. Most dumb people don't look at long-term consequences in any scenario.
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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    If they're legally allowed to have that firearm. Abso-fukking-lutely. WTF is wrong with you?

    Youre race baiting and assuming us gun owners and 2A supporters are racist.

    Fukking negged off RC. You're absolutely pathetic.
    Neg me.

    You're aware that laws were passed after the Black Panthers showed up to protest with guns right?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Gun supporters think everyone should be armed. Would it be a good idea for black protesters to buy ARs and walk around like the anti-mask, white people who were mad that they couldn't get a haircut?
    You just did it again.

    Originally Posted by exyl View Post
    Black protestors are well within their rights to be armed. You mad?

    Are you being racist by assuming we think the 2A should not extend to them? It’s almost like YOU have an implicit issue with black people being armed, and you are projecting that fear onto us through your question... but what argument are you trying to make exactly?
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    He's trying to make this about race because he doesn't understand that gun rights activists don't care what color you are.

    Sword's AR 15 doesn't frighten me, derp
    what point exactly are you trying to make?

    It just looks like you’re race-baiting... projecting your own fear of black people being armed in question form
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Gun supporters think everyone should be armed. Would it be a good idea for black protesters to buy ARs and walk around like the anti-mask, white people who were mad that they couldn't get a haircut?
    This racist doesn't believe in nonwhite's having common rifles apparently... negged
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    pathetic whataboutism from an obvious racist
    Ok pat.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Neg me.

    You're aware that laws were passed after the Black Panthers showed up to protest with guns right?
    And the original gun control laws were Jim Crow. Gun rights advocates are aware of this, and that's why you're getting negged
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Yea they announced they were doing it about a few days ago due to the protests



    Then why don't you post your source? And Oh no, "Bodymore, Murderland" creeps into top 5 with the other 4 red states.



    I agree, arm yourselves. But my original point was about how flooding more guns into circulation is making the overall gun violence problem worse. Most dumb people don't look at long-term consequences in any scenario.

    FBI UCR: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._homicide_rate

    Edit: I posted on page 1 btw...
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