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    Naughty Dog's Druckmann: TLOU2 Ending is Not Out There

    Druckmann had some pleasant words for fans. According to him, the leaks have given out only a part; the bigger picture remains undisclosed.

    “There’s so many false things out there. We don’t want to go out there and correct anything because that would be spoiling the game in a way, by saying what it isn’t, we’re kind of saying what it is.”

    Druckmann also went on to say that the twists and turns of the story are just a small part of the experience.

    “And the story was constructed in such a way that it’s really not about twists and turns. It’s about slowly ratcheting the crank and feeling the tension with the choices the characters make.

    “So okay, it sucks. But we know once people get their hands on it, they’re going to feel what it is we’re after whether they’ve seen it or not, and that’s that’s what made us confident.”

    “There’s all these theories about what the ending is but the ending is not out there. You actually don’t know how it all comes together.”
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    Why should I believe him?
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    Originally Posted by bartosh View Post
    Why should I believe him?
    so you buy the game thinking its not what the spoilers said
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    Originally Posted by bartosh View Post
    Why should I believe him?
    Cause he wants your money
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    Eh, I’m pretty bored these days. I think I’ll still buy it and see how bad they fuk’d it up or hopefully be surprised. Maybe wait to buy it used a couple weeks after release
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    everyone should just wait a few days before release and see if the spoilers were true or not. simple
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    everyone should just wait a few days before release and see if the spoilers were true or not. simple


    Spoilers are legit lol. It's just the ending of the game that hasnt been spoiled yet.
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    What's the ending?

    The b*tch is in hospital where her doctor mom does the transgender surgery and gives her an actual penis to complete the transformation to a man?

    Such woke.
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    I still have minuscule hope that this was a genius marketing scheme, let's see what happens on release
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    Lmao at agonizing if a 60 buck game is worth it like it's some kind of investment.
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    Plenty of movie trailers give away so of the big action sequences, but it doesn't mean the movie isn't fun.

    I haven't read the spoilers, but I do know they give away a LOT. However, once you put those disjointed scenes together, as part of the bigger narrative, makes the pieces come together in a better way. Otherwise people would just watch movie trailers and read video game spoilers instead of watch/play the full thing.
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    Originally Posted by 3maj View Post
    Lmao at agonizing if a 60 buck game is worth it like it's some kind of investment.
    it's not about the money, it's about the principle of the matter.

    I don't want to give $60 to a publisher if there is a SJW agenda in there that has no relevance. The game is about ending the zombie apocalypse, not about playing as a tranny of some random dude that was killed so that she/he can get revenge.

    Not only that, I don't want to pay because it supports an agenda I don't agree with.


    It's like playing God of War and halfway through, Kratos runs into a gay dude and they have a relationship. Fuk no I'm not buying that .
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    It's so stupid how you can't play as Joel and that he dies from the hands of a tranny (or golf club)

    I mean jesus what a disappointment.

    When I played TLOU, I was just AMAZED at everything. It was seriously a 10/10 game. Joel's strong/man of few words/grieving personality finding a bond with a little girl through zombie hell. All out the window.

    And now it is just a victim of SJW and diversity. Amazing. What a world we live in.

    Originally I was OKAY with playing as Ellie for like half the game and then Joel. That was fine. But this chit. No. Not buying.
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    If I buy the game, I am going to feel like I am donating to the woke agenda. I cannot bring myself to do that.
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    Originally Posted by 3maj View Post
    Lmao at agonizing if a 60 buck game is worth it like it's some kind of investment.
    Lmao at thinking it's about sixty dollars.
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    I'm 100% sure they doubled down and did something even more ridiculous for the ending.
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    (To Druckmann) Cool story bro.

    Originally Posted by Druckmann
    “There’s so many false things out there. We don’t want to go out there and correct anything because that would be spoiling the game in a way, by saying what it isn’t, we’re kind of saying what it is.”
    There were a lot of false things out there about the final season of Game of Thrones... like it not being total sh*t.

    Turns out that it was the major leaks that were accurate in that situation, though.

    Originally Posted by Druckmann

    “And the story was constructed in such a way that it’s really not about twists and turns. It’s about slowly ratcheting the crank and feeling the tension with the choices the characters make.
    >Story isn't about the twists and turns
    >Story is about increasing tension over character choices

    That... that is literally just, "twists and turns," as they pertain to the characters, you cuckolded closet stainer.

    Originally Posted by Druckmann
    “So okay, it sucks."

    His words.

    Originally Posted by Druckmann
    "But we know once people get their hands on it, they’re going to feel what it is we’re after whether they’ve seen it or not, and that’s that’s what made us confident.”
    Every creator f*cking says that, but whether it comes to fruition is another story.

    D&D said they thought the final season of Games of Thrones would be an A-, but hopefully an A. That aged just fine.

    The Director of Cats thought that once people saw that CG, furry fever dream, audiences would feel what it was they were after.

    Yu Suzuki thought everyone was going to understand what he was going for with Shenmue 3 once they got their hands on it.
    Spoiler!


    Hideo Kojima thought that Death Stranding was going to be seen as this groundbreaking epic that required creating an entirely new genre in and of itself once people got their hands on it....
    Spoiler!


    A Death Stranding scenario where the game is divisive with arguably more disappointment and grumbling than praise going around is certainly one possibility, but reviewers still praise it as "brave," and "bold," and all that other drivel, which is a win to them.

    Maybe they really are going for really is trying to win over the smallest number of people - like, the smallest number whose special month coincides with the game's release. Who the hell knows these days with all of these brainwashed morons running projects into the ground because they watched a Youtube seminar during their weekly C&B torture.

    Backing up to the initial phrasing of that last bit:

    Originally Posted by Druckmann
    “So okay, it sucks." But we know once people get their hands on it...
    Emphasis on the but there because the way he says it makes everything afterwards sound like horsesh*t excuse making.

    Seriously, all of the reactions on their part, the immediate release date change, it all comes across kind of desperate - but apparently not desperate enough to contextualize the leaks in a way that wins back the crowd who checked out because of them.

    The ramped up defensiveness over the integrity of the story with nothing more than, "just trust us," only comes off as more suspicious because they are the ones getting everyone else's money, so no, nobody should just trust them when the majority of the puzzle is already out there for people to see enough of the final picture regardless.

    Originally Posted by Druckmann
    “There’s all these theories about what the ending is but the ending is not out there. You actually don’t know how it all comes together.”
    Does the ending itself really matter if everything leading up to it is sh*t and all of that is true, though?

    Again using Game of Thrones as an example, the last season already killed itself to me by the "Long" Night, and it continued stabbing itself up until the very conclusion.

    It could have had the most perfect, fitting ending ever in theory afterwards, and if we are to believe that it is the loose outline of what George RR Martin was going for, that might at least be close to the intended ending, it still doesn't matter because the preceding steps reaching that conclusion were godawful enough to overshadow everything else.

    If you are receiving a twelve course meal, it is meaningless when the last two dishes are actually decent if halfway in, the chef had decided instead of the planned meat dishes, everyone would instead have to eat a bunch of soy, faux-meat abominations because he wanted to turn this dinner into a lesson on the "cycle of violence" - and that includes your next several bowel movements after being served a lobster constructed out of tofu.

    Again, more than enough material is out there for people to judge for themselves, and this all reads like last minute attempts to pull back those who already did get an unhealthy glimpse of the main course Druckmann has planned for them.

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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    I'm 100% sure they doubled down and did something even more ridiculous for the ending.
    Didnt it go gold soon after the leaks? Unless they got several endings ready and can pull out which they deem fit.
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    Talk about damage control! This is one of those times when a guy like this tries to say things totally aren't the way everyone is going to confirm it is.
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    I think they're very lucky that it's coming out during such a dull year for games.

    I have not bought any games released this year. I do plan on getting Resident Evil 3 remake and Doom Eternal when they are on sale though.
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    So in other words he admitted that the leaks are true but went into damage control by saying how somehow there are twists and nuances to a juiced up tranny, whom you are later forced to play as, killing a main character with a golf club. Huh.
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    and why do we give a fuk about his opinion?
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    and why do we give a fuk about his opinion?
    cause he has the game as opposed to some cliffnotes
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    cause he has the game as opposed to some cliffnotes
    As if that makes any difference. Reviews these days can't be trusted. Period. Everyone has their own agenda.
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    All the previews are incredibly positive ...... I know most miscers will dismiss it because "muh mainstream" and it doesnt fit their already biased narrative ..... But stupid as fuk decisions with the story aside, I reckon it's gonna be a great game that will be very divisive. Of course, I'm gonna play the game myself and judge for myself rather than having some kneejerk response.
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    Originally Posted by Nightdic View Post
    Eh, I’m pretty bored these days. I think I’ll still buy it and see how bad they fuk’d it up or hopefully be surprised. Maybe wait to buy it used a couple weeks after release
    Stupid bitch ass cuck, you deserve to lose your money. I hope you ****ing hate it.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    All the previews are incredibly positive ...... I know most miscers will dismiss it because "muh mainstream" and it doesnt fit their already biased narrative ..... But stupid as fuk decisions with the story aside, I reckon it's gonna be a great game that will be very divisive. Of course, I'm gonna play the game myself and judge for myself rather than having some kneejerk response.
    HOLY **** THE PAID REVIEWS ARE POSITIVE?!?!??!?!? **** me man you dont say. And if theyre not paid for outright they will bend the knee to retain access to these devs to get the 'inside scoop'. Fuk people like you who've ruined gaming through your sheer stupidity of accepting multibillion dollar companies promises and tricks to get your money.
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    Originally Posted by Nightdic View Post
    Eh, I’m pretty bored these days. I think I’ll still buy it and see how bad they fuk’d it up or hopefully be surprised. Maybe wait to buy it used a couple weeks after release
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    cause he has the game as opposed to some cliffnotes
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    HOLY **** THE PAID REVIEWS ARE POSITIVE?!?!??!?!? **** me man you dont say. And if theyre not paid for outright they will bend the knee to retain access to these devs to get the 'inside scoop'. Fuk people like you who've ruined gaming through your sheer stupidity of accepting multibillion dollar companies promises and tricks to get your money.

    Lol at you getting your panties in a twist because I just mentioned that previews from all outlets, youtubers, and other sites are all positive .... Obviously there is gonna be a bias there, but from what I've seen from the videos the game does look incredibly polished, and its a naughty dog game .... All they're games have been amazing from a technical stand point and positively reviewed from everyone, including myself and many other people here who have praised all their previous titles for being great games.


    If they decide to go full SJW that's a different topic entirely and one where I would rather play the game for myself and judge if they went full retard (despite my initial impression of the leaks not positive at all)


    sit the fuk down phaggot and stop being such an emotional kunt. I'll spend my own money however I damn feel like.


    losing your damn mind here like a little fkkn bitch.
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