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    Why are you so scared to take a stance? Saying I'm on the fence basically contributes nothing to a discussion and is an easy out
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Well yeah, some dudes on here you hung out with, DrVillian and another dude, both said they are done with you because you are a "swirler".
    don't you have to be a "swirler" in order to not be racist?

    if you were so inculcated by your own people, your own kind, your own skin color, etc. then you are in fact racist

    look people.. skin color is largely a byproduct of the environment. either due to sun exposure, the desert, etc. - things of that ilk - or possibly nutrition - which can also be attributed to the environment. everybody has the same human base

    no hippie kumbaya bullchit. there are then reasons beyond that which can lead to behavior, behavioral patterns, ideas, etc. that also doesn't mean that prejudice can't be performed, nor does it mean prejudice is accurate or inaccurate or their can't be inciting or inflicting responses because of that
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    Originally Posted by sword_ View Post
    He asked me a question and I answered.



    Some of the stuff I agree with that are more "conservative" views. Like I mentioned in other threads some of what Candace Owens talks about Louis Farrakhan has talked about before and they overlap. It's just how the information is being used and the message. Some of these miscers don't really say this stuff to uplift black people and want to genuinely help. It's usually to marginalize black folks and confirm their own internal prejudices about us.
    I think some of the more conservative posters feel that their worldview is applicable to all, regardless of race, and have resentment about the narrative that conservatism is racially exclusionary.
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    Originally Posted by jackedup13 View Post
    Why are you so scared to take a stance? Saying I'm on the fence basically contributes nothing to a discussion and is an easy out
    It's a forum to discuss things right? I was thinking it out loud and wanted to hear things out.

    A knee jerk reaction because people want to be "on the right side of history" is a spectacle and doesn't mean anything. There are northern cities that are racist and there are no Confederate symbols.

    I think we need to know history. I don't revere Confederates of course but I think they are useful from a historical perspective.

    I can also understand WHY these symbols in some people's eyes is what I'm saying.

    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    don't you have to be a "swirler" in order to not be racist?

    if you were so inculcated by your own people, your own kind, your own skin color, etc. then you are in fact racist

    look people.. skin color is largely a byproduct of the environment. either due to sun exposure, the desert, etc. - things of that ilk - or possibly nutrition - which can also be attributed to the environment. everybody has the same human base

    no hippie kumbaya bullchit. there are then reasons beyond that which can lead to behavior, behavioral patterns, ideas, etc. that also doesn't mean that prejudice can't be performed
    Man...both Malcolm X and MLK slept with women outside their race. People don't wanna talk about that haha.

    Originally Posted by PAU1 View Post
    I think some of the more conservative posters feel that their worldview is applicable to all, regardless of race, and have resentment about the narrative that conservatism is racially exclusionary.
    Yep agreed. There is a space for Black Conservatism and that's a separate convo but it sort of gets drowned out by the polarization. Black conservatives are seen as sell-outs but Thomas Sowell, Farakkan, and others have good points.
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    I'm not tearing another black man down for just being himself. However, I'm not gonna cap and act like you're not seeking approval from some of these whites on here. I've seen your posts and it's all good do you, but be honest.
    You sound like a phaggot
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    Originally Posted by sword_ View Post

    You're damned either way. I feel like my social circle has gotten less white the older I got but I still have a lot of white friends and I'm not gonna disassociate with them because of their race.

    Also if you feel that way I'd urge you to donate to Black organizations or Black businesses.
    That's fair man thanks for the reply. Also, that PM was unneccesary.
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    interesting fact: the other day I made a thread about a movie I always recommend movies shows etc and cause it was a hood movie with black people in it someone called me a race baiter.

    and someone else accused me of race baiting - "instigating" this time it was a black miscer and my thread got deleted because of that.
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    your posts have been flip flopping on here the past few days from what i’ve seen


    idk why you’re even coming to the misc to even halfway seriously discuss anything that’s going on. these dudes are not your friend and you should know that by now.

    it’s almost a direct correlation to what people say about cops even. not all cops are literally bad, but the good ones don’t do **** nearly often enough when the bad ones are running rampant so **** them


    when the overtly racist miscers come out they either get called out by the minorities they are talking about or not at all

    any black persons chilling here unironically better have enough money for it to at least make sense for them to align conservative


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    Alright I think I'm gonna delet dis so I won't have a NVious or wincel breakdown.

    Originally Posted by IronBrahh View Post
    your posts have been flip flopping on here the past few days from what i’ve seen

    idk why you’re even coming to the misc to even halfway seriously discuss anything that’s going on. these dudes are not your friend and you should know that by now.

    it’s almost a direct correlation to what people say about cops even. not all cops are literally bad, but the good ones don’t do **** nearly often enough when the bad ones are running rampant so **** them

    when the overtly racist miscers come out they either get called out by the minorities they are talking about or not at all

    any black persons chilling here unironically better have enough money for it to at least make sense for them to align conservative

    this place is for luls only otherwise
    Sometimes when I discuss things it's really a mental exercise to see different perspectives and not trying to seek a "win". Also hearing your opponents out and vice versa you both come to a point of understanding on both sides.

    Me thinking destroying Confederate statues may not necessarily be conducive now and me vilifying the cops who killed George Floyd are not me flip flopping either.
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    In the past two weeks I deleted a 16 year old account from another board and deleted my reddit account. Not saying everything said on the misc is kosher but most of it aligns with my views. You're not going to have civil discussions with people who fundamentally think differently than you do.
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    Dont worry OP you are not alone

    I have been accused of being a nazi by some on here simply because i talk about history.

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    I don't know why all of us men don't stick together. This day and age all men are considered toxic, especially white men and black men
    STRONG this. Men should band together
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    Originally Posted by MikeLowrrrey View Post
    I don't know why all of us men don't stick together. This day and age all men are considered toxic, especially white men and black men
    Mentioned this before. That's why I've helped incel bros out. Hung out with HoustonMiscer several times and now he got a little action he's a new man lol
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    Alright I think I'm gonna delet dis so I won't have a NVious or wincel breakdown.



    Sometimes when I discuss things it's really a mental exercise to see different perspectives and not trying to seek a "win". Also hearing your opponents out and vice versa you both come to a point of understanding on both sides.
    i come for the conservative side of things but i don’t even read the posts to know what they are going to say

    liberals want them dead
    trump alpha as ****
    antifa and soros conspiracy
    etc.

    if it wasn’t for the nostalgia i wouldn’t come back at all probably, miscers literally reject reality and logic on a regular basis for 0 reason. if it didn’t come from their brains it’s not real, unless it came from some 1k view random video with a dark enough background to imply secrecy and hidden truth

    try to argue with them and they handpick specific points until they reach the point where it’s clear they are just not gonna listen to what you’re saying period
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    Originally Posted by sword_ View Post
    It's a forum to discuss things right? I was thinking it out loud and wanted to hear things out.

    A knee jerk reaction because people want to be "on the right side of history" is a spectacle and doesn't mean anything. There are northern cities that are racist and there are no Confederate symbols.

    I think we need to know history. I don't revere Confederates of course but I think they are useful from a historical perspective.

    I can also understand WHY these symbols in some people's eyes is what I'm saying.
    Your post is a bit contradictory. Is it really a knee jerk reaction for wanting to remove remnants of slavery era army generals that were fighting to secede from the union? What exactly is their use? Why not just build a museum for confederate statues?

    Removal of a confederate statue doesn't mean we're removing history. That's honestly one of the most autistic arguments I've heard. It does seem like you are pandering to both sides. Of course, racism will continue. People want progress and many believe removal of the statues is long overdue. But 'muh history' is an argument used by southern low iqcels.
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    Originally Posted by IronBrahh View Post
    i come for the conservative side of things but i don’t even read the posts to know what they are going to say

    liberals want them dead
    trump alpha as ****
    antifa and soros conspiracy
    etc.

    if it wasn’t for the nostalgia i wouldn’t come back at all probably, miscers literally reject reality and logic on a regular basis for 0 reason. if it didn’t come from their brains it’s not real, unless it came from some 1k view random video with a dark enough background to imply secrecy and hidden truth

    try to argue with them and they handpick specific points until they reach the point where it’s clear they are just not gonna listen to what you’re saying period
    mind = blown

    I used to do debating and love rhetoric. Did debating for a while in HS/college and I miss those days 20 years ago or so where we could have civil discourse without extreme polarization and now violence.

    ****'s mad. Even on the misc in 2004/2005 people had better conversations. Don't even mention IG/FB/Reddit. God.

    Originally Posted by jackedup13 View Post
    Your post is a bit contradictory. Is it really a knee jerk reaction for wanting to remove remnants of slavery era army generals that were fighting to secede from the union? What exactly is their use? Why not just build a museum for confederate statues?

    Removal of a confederate statue doesn't mean we're removing history. That's honestly one of the most autistic arguments I've heard. It does seem like you are pandering to both sides. Of course, racism will continue. People want progress and many believe removal of the statues is long overdue. But 'muh history' is an argument used by southern low iqcels.
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    Everyone has haters and supporters. Why don't you try not crying or fisting yourself? That might help.
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    interesting fact: the other day I made a thread about a movie I always recommend movies shows etc and cause it was a hood movie with black people in it someone called me a race baiter.

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    Some of y'all just think I race bait because I try and discuss racial issues and ****. Then you have the cool black and white folks in here and THEN you have the folks questioning my blackness. Can't win with this ****.

    Just got this PM regarding my on the fence position about destroying Confederate monuments. I didn't say I was against removing them but I said I was UNSURE about erasing history. We gonna ban Huckleberry Finn because it used the N word now? Anyway check this PM



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    I'm Malcolm X to some of you and an Uncle Tom at the same time lol
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    Just venting.
    I know bro, and I'm just jaking you. But at the end of the day, a man must not take positions to please the crowd (not that I'm suggesting you're doing that). A man must take a position based on his morals, experiences and beliefs, to hell with the consequences.

    Either you are taking principled positions and dgaf what others think, or you are pandering, sitting on the fence and essentially ruled by the approval or disapproval of crowds regardless which side of the fence they are on.

    I disagree with you a lot on here, but I think you're a good guy, a genuine guy. And if others can't see that, especially black or white supremacists, fuk em. Just keep moving in a positive direction.
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    Mentioned this before. That's why I've helped incel bros out. Hung out with HoustonMiscer several times and now he got a little action he's a new man lol
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