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  • Stock

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    Shotgun: stock VS no stock (pistol grip, for home defence)

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    Ar-15


    Also where's the stock and pistol grip option?
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    Originally Posted by ThisIsMyAlias View Post
    Ar-15


    Also where's the stock and pistol grip option?

    I guess that falls under stock, since the biggest difference is easier aim with stock VS shorter length and thus easier maneuverability indoors without stock?
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    Shockwave + laser sight = home defended

    Best of both worlds, it's the practical solution
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    No shotgun for home defense. All of the issues in the world with over-penetration, lower capacity than a handgun or AR.

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    If youre set on a shotgun and are disregarding other options, the no stock option is definitely easier to manipulate inside of a small area like a hallway/etc. But just know that you better hold on tight if youre shooting that bitch without a stock lol
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    Stock obviously.



    AR is better but if you're choosing between the two, always stock it.
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    Anyone who said pistol grip has never shot a shotgun with just a grip. You can’t aim for **** and the recoil hurts. Doesn’t matter that it hurts defending your home, but you will NEVER practice with it. Shockwave atleast that raked the grip back at an angle, so that your palm doesn’t get rekt.


    Also the distance you shoot within your home your shot wouldn’t even have spread any beneficial amount. They don’t immediately open up. 15feet it is maybe open to 5”


    Just use a stock, or better yet use a Glock to defend your home.
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    definitely stock unless you have a very serious need for the absolute shortest shotgun possible, such as carry in a backpack or similar constraints

    pistol grip only shotguns are harder to shoot accurately compared to a shotgun with full stock, even for people who've practiced with them
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    Originally Posted by GerbilFarmer View Post
    Anyone who said pistol grip has never shot a shotgun with just a grip. You can’t aim for **** and the recoil hurts. Doesn’t matter that it hurts defending your home, but you will NEVER practice with it. Shockwave atleast that raked the grip back at an angle, so that your palm doesn’t get rekt.


    Also the distance you shoot within your home your shot wouldn’t even have spread any beneficial amount. They don’t immediately open up. 15feet it is maybe open to 5”


    Just use a stock, or better yet use a Glock to defend your home.
    How about 20 gauge tho? Still serious recoil?
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    Originally Posted by adamsz View Post
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    Stock obviously.



    AR is better but if you're choosing between the two, always stock it.
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    I find pistol grip shotties have a terrible kick due to not being able to brace it against your frame however they are better for use due to better maneuverability in narrow spots like doorways and hallways.

    I keep my 9 in a fingerprint scan case next to my bed instead of dropping the shotgun case down from the closet, opening it up, unlocking etc
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    Originally Posted by GerbilFarmer View Post
    Anyone who said pistol grip has never shot a shotgun with just a grip. You can’t aim for **** and the recoil hurts. Doesn’t matter that it hurts defending your home, but you will NEVER practice with it. Shockwave atleast that raked the grip back at an angle, so that your palm doesn’t get rekt.


    Also the distance you shoot within your home your shot wouldn’t even have spread any beneficial amount. They don’t immediately open up. 15feet it is maybe open to 5”


    Just use a stock, or better yet use a Glock to defend your home.
    So much this.

    For reference a 12g shotgun as 45-50lbs of recoil. An AR15 has 4.5lbs. The shotgun has 10x more recoil than a gun that's gonna be just as effective.

    Shotguns are a FUKLOAD to handle even with a stock. I don't even know why the pistol grip stuff exists.

    Also, you're being generous with a 5" spread at 15 yards. Depending on the gun, it may not even be spreading more than a slug yet at 15 yards.

    Lastly, let's say it WAS spreading. People don't think about this. You really want 00 buckshot that would pattern and have some pellets miss the intended target? Buckshot doesn't expand, it doesn't tumble, and it doesn't fragment. You pattern wide and increase hit probability, you also have stray pellets that are gonna go through all your walls and probably into your neighbors house.
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    Absolutely with a stock. You want accuracy with your spread.

    I believe most 00 opens about 1 inch per 10 feet. Federal flight control 00 buck averages about 18 inches of penetration at 10 FT (and so do I lol).

    Anyways you want you group as tight as possible and a stock will allow for more control during aiming, keeping your spread tighter and preventing possible over penetration into wall etc.


    Imo one of the best actual applications for a pistol caliber carbine could be home defense. Though I would lean on a shorter AR in 5.56
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