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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Uh, geez, well I don't have time to find sources, but I that hard to believe?

    18-months till vaccine (few months ago, Dr. so and so). "this will continue to spread into the fall, and we will see a second wave" (dr. so and so). Herd immunity is key, Dr. So and so.

    ......it goes on and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on.

    LOL, really?

    Here's more: "When is normal, there will not be normal for a long time", Gov Ahole; "We may need another lock-down", Dr. So and so. "We should stay inside and SD for like 18 months, Dr. So and so.
    Those may be theories, but no one will do that.
    We are already in phase 2 of 4.
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    Those may be theories, but no one will do that.
    We are already in phase 2 of 4.

    and it's still spreading supposedly, so I said who cares, get it over with.

    The vulnerable may be being careful, cause beds continue to be available.

    Not sure what the argument is? Who cares whether cases increase fast, it's eithier fast or slow. Slow means the vulnerable gotta isolate LONGER.
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    Florida reported 4049 new cases of COVID-19 on Saturday, marking three straight days of record-breaking numbers.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Florida reported 4049 new cases of COVID-19 on Saturday, marking three straight days of record-breaking numbers.
    That crushes our highest number.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Florida reported 4049 new cases of COVID-19 on Saturday, marking three straight days of record-breaking numbers.
    Two weeks after Memorial Day, right on time.
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I have never, ever, ever, ever read about being isolated for 1.5 years.
    You just made that up.
    Now you have...




    "We have no choice". Just smh...
    Well meaning, elderly man with a poor memory...pause
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    That crushes our highest number.
    It's a high number for sure.

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    Two weeks after Memorial Day, right on time.
    Be interesting to see Oklahoma's numbers in a couple of weeks after Trumpstock is done. They aren't required to mask up. 6 of his campaign staffers have tested positive
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    Nonsense, it ain't over until it's over, second third and forth waves. Terrible things don't just go away because we don't want them.

    For example, I just saw a lead story about Greta Thunberg complaining about everything. Thought she'd gone? No! These thing keep coming back. Until we have a Greta vaccine we'll... Wait, hang on - which terrible thing was the post about again?
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    A couple of facts.
    1. video was april 6, 2020
    2. He said "return to normal" in a year and a half** not shut all things down and hibernate**.
    3. he said it was "risky" to go to the grocery store and take care of regular business.
    4. he concluded that a return to "normal" would require a vaccine, but we all know that in June things were very different than in the Peak covid-19 days of April.


    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    It's a high number for sure.



    Be interesting to see Oklahoma's numbers in a couple of weeks after Trumpstock is done. They aren't required to mask up. 6 of his campaign staffers have tested positive
    Many of the skeptics on this site have had a different tune after this thing kicks their fkn ass, so i think that is what it will take to quiet some of them.
    It sounds mean but as soon as they get it........
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Many of the skeptics on this site have had a different tune after this thing kicks their fkn ass, so i think that is what it will take to quiet some of them.
    It sounds mean but as soon as they get it........
    It won't stop them from being general sociopaths, though.
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    Let's be honest here... Nobody actually knows.

    SARS (SARS-1) quietly faded away and didn't have a second spike. Spanish Flu (1918) had several spikes. So will COV-SARS-2 (covid19) have an big spike in the fall and repeatedly so until we have herd immunity? (either by exposure or by vaccination). At this moment nobody actually knows

    Because getting these educated guesses wrong could lead to large numbers of deaths, public health officials are obligated to consider the more pessamistic scenarios.

    So we end up with public health (quite rightly) planning and discussing this based on pessamistic assumptions - which conflicts with the super optimistic people who are correct to point out the pessamism is assumption and not based on proven fact

    Whilst the super optimistic people don't understand or acknowledge the reasons why public health is so pessamistic, there'll remain this impasse
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    Chuck Todd just presented the numbers for the week and in the biggest southern states the increase was 77-94%.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Chuck Todd just presented the numbers for the week and in the biggest southern states the increase was 77-94%.

    Seriously?? That's nuts
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Many of the skeptics on this site have had a different tune after this thing kicks their fkn ass, so i think that is what it will take to quiet some of them.
    It sounds mean but as soon as they get it........


    That is were your logic is flawed there, cases does not mean sick, the vast majority will not get thier ass kicked.

    Like I stated earlier it will be worse having too isolate the vulnerable for 1.5 years, if this phucking thing is real.

    Gave granny a hug, it won’t even spread that way.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    That is were your logic is flawed there, cases does not mean sick, the vast majority will not get thier ass kicked.

    Like I stated earlier it will be worse having too isolate the vulnerable for 1.5 years, if this phucking thing is real.

    Gave granny a hug, it won’t even spread that way.
    I know that cases does not mean sick, but until you can tell me *who will and who won't*, we have to assume that all might be the Italian, strain in our personal dealings.
    I just read that there are *14 strains and it is mutating* so which of the 14 is the bad one, can you tell me, can we identify it b4 we come into contact with it?

    "if this phucking thing is real."
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    That is were your logic is flawed there, cases does not mean sick, the vast majority will not get thier ass kicked.

    Like I stated earlier it will be worse having too isolate the vulnerable for 1.5 years, if this phucking thing is real.

    Gave granny a hug, it won’t even spread that way.

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    It won't stop them from being general sociopaths, though.


    It's sad that you don't even promote that the ratio of deaths with the cases has dropped dramatically, in a situation where this thing is here and not gonna go away, it's actually pretty good news. If it were up to you the spike from Memorial day weekend would of dragged on slowly for the next 2 months, which does absolutely nothing.

    Of course that's if it's real, I still think it's all BS, but I'll take the data I see and won't be political about it, like you.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Chuck Todd just presented the numbers for the week and in the biggest southern states the increase was 77-94%.
    It’s pretty common knowledge that the entire nation did not get exposed the same day. They predicted from the first week that some states would peak several weeks after other states.

    Then of course, there is more testing now than ever.

    So, is it tested cases, or those hospitalized with it. That slight fact is a pretty big deal.

    Did Chuck disaggregate that data, Or did he cherry pick it to fit his “kill the republicans at any cost” agenda.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Many of the skeptics on this site have had a different tune after this thing kicks their fkn ass, so i think that is what it will take to quiet some of them.
    It sounds mean but as soon as they get it........

    Most people that get it will not know they ever had it unless they get a test.

    The CDC has acknowledged this.
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    Covid-19 is definitely not over in my area. I think it's just starting!

    My fiance, Christina, has to be tested today because she has a co-worker who tested positive and he sits right next to her and they work closely on a daily basis. Fortunately he has been out sick for a week now, so we only have to sweat it out another week or so.

    When it hits this close to home, I believe most people's attitudes will change. I'm not overly concerned, but it is scary if I allow myself to think too hard about it.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Covid-19 is definitely not over in my area. I think it's just starting!

    My fiance, Christina, has to be tested today because she has a co-worker who tested positive and he sits right next to her and they work closely on a daily basis. Fortunately he has been out sick for a week now, so we only have to sweat it out another week or so.

    When it hits this close to home, I believe most people's attitudes will change. I'm not overly concerned, but it is scary if I allow myself to think too hard about it.

    That's sucks busta, good luck and positive thoughts for both you guys. Some southern states are really heating up, and it does seem like it's just starting in some areas.
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    California reporting 7,149 new COVID-19 cases setting new high in daily infections

    Texas Suffers Its Worst Day for New Coronavirus Infections With 5,400 Cases

    The Florida Department of Health on Wednesday reported another 5,508 new cases of COVID-19 in the state.
    That's number is now the highest single-day record for new cases in Florida since testing began.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    It’s pretty common knowledge that the entire nation did not get exposed the same day. They predicted from the first week that some states would peak several weeks after other states.

    Then of course, there is more testing now than ever.

    So, is it tested cases, or those hospitalized with it. That slight fact is a pretty big deal.

    Did Chuck disaggregate that data, Or did he cherry pick it to fit his “kill the republicans at any cost” agenda.
    It was in his data dump section, towards the end and there was no agenda visible to me other than here is where the cases are happening.
    The issue i feel is where you may want to be a bit more aware and who has more active cases. We were overly careful and are just entering phase 2 because our numbers were higher for longer.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    Most people that get it will not know they ever had it unless they get a test.

    The CDC has acknowledged this.
    Well having 2 people i know die and one who described it to me over a 40 day period, certain strains(14) are worse than others.
    I am not trying to get this, good immune system and all.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Covid-19 is definitely not over in my area. I think it's just starting!

    My fiance, Christina, has to be tested today because she has a co-worker who tested positive and he sits right next to her and they work closely on a daily basis. Fortunately he has been out sick for a week now, so we only have to sweat it out another week or so.

    When it hits this close to home, I believe most people's attitudes will change. I'm not overly concerned, but it is scary if I allow myself to think too hard about it.
    I feel for you, maybe she was exposed to a weaker strain or mutation that won't cause you both much grief.
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