Cop Misbehavior Thread

[Kiop]

suprised no one put this 1

[leoslayer1]

suprised no one put this 1

It had it's own thread. But I agree it was horrible.

[Frank Drebin]

I think he was talking about the Buffalo cops rekking a 75-year-old for getting out of their way too slowly then lying to taxpayers about what happened.

https://twitter.com/BigRangersBear/s...635692551?s=20

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...-agitator.html

[Basiliskboy]

It had it's own thread. But I agree it was horrible.

Old dude did nothing wrong he had every right to talk to those fcking pigs like that whatever he was saying because they work for HIM. Yet these thugs rough him up and he literally has an aneurysm right there on camera.. if this wasnt film like the others no one would care

[Mulloway69]

Apparently, the entire Buffalo riot team has picked their hill to die on. 57 officers have resigned to protest having two of their own suspended without pay for assaulting a 75-year-old. What's the point if you can't beat people up for no good reason then falsify the report to cover it up?

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/bu...-response-team

Meanwhile, a Washington, D.C.-area department is dealing with allegations that a man filmed running around a bicycle trail in Montgomery County, VA attacking a family who was putting up protest flyers is actually a retired deputy chief of police who left the department after a complaint.

https://twitter.com/VicStoddard/stat...20623489560576
https://twitter.com/ParkPolice/statu...73681784610816

Yikes.

See below everyone for clarification from quoted OP's link

What You Need To Know

Entire Buffalo Police ERT resigns to support two officers who were suspended after pushing 75-year-old man Thursday

The officers have only resigned from the ERT; They have not resigned from their police officer roles

The injured man, 75-year-old Martin Gugino, was taken to the hospital with serious injuries. He is active and alert as of Friday

[ANumber1]

https://twitter.com/BigRangersBear/s...635692551?s=20

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...-agitator.html

Couple of things:

- I've seen a couple of threads started and closed where people are in hysterics and have concluded that because he's an old hippy who goes to protests a lot, he's an Antifa supersoldier or something. For context, this is upstate New York, which is not culturally like NYC at all. It's a string of small, poorer cities with struggling farms between. Most of the cities are, to varying degrees, college towns. Every city has the same ten old hippies who attend every single protest because they're old and have nothing else to do. Often times, they're the only people who even go. You'll run into the same people at the farmer's market and at the community college, etc. Those are our neighbors and even if they're weird, they're old, and the police are our neighbors, too. Everybody still has to get up the next morning and live together the next day.

- As people have said the whole time, if he was "asked numerous times to leave" or otherwise causing some kind of trouble and violating curfew, the correct course was to make the arrest, not to assault him. Their union lawyer was on the air arguing about intent, and when asked this same question, all he could say was "ok, but they're charged for what did happen, not what should have happened, so it's best not to dwell on that". Basically conceded the point that they did the wrong thing.

- I'm actually sympathetic to the argument that they're getting slapped too hard, legally. They're getting felony assault because NYS law automatically upgrades assaults with intent against the elderly and the DA says he's stuck. On one hand, there's room to argue about intent (second degree) vs. recklessness (third degree). (The DA says the intent analysis is identical to a previous case he's prosecuted and he stands by it. I have no idea if that's correct.) On the other hand, these are the same laws that jam up civilians and should be applied equally to crimes committed by law enforcement, 100% of the time, every time. If the assault laws are themselves unjust and unworkable in real life, they should be changed, and law enforcement should support it knowing that they have the same skin in the game civilians do.

Old people are often annoying and make bad decisions. These are the same people the state police have to remind to every Christmas not to wire their life savings to some guy in India. It doesn't matter. You can't have people running around knocking out each other's grandpas for no reason, police or not, and you definitely cannot have elderly people, who need help more than everybody else, fearful of law enforcement because of what happened to oldbrah. That this is an argument on the Misc at all is surreal.

[ANumber1]

Only just saw this video today, it's a few years old but completely insane:



- DUI crash. Officer sees man trying to climb out of the wreckage, pulls out his gun and shoots him in the neck, paralyzing him (1:00). Clearly zero fukks given.
- Officer reports to dispatch that the driver "refuses to get out".
- Officer does not tell paramedics he shot the driver, wanders around obviously trying to find the casing.
- When another officer arrives, terrified driver tries to tell him that the first officer shot him, and the second officer tells him he's wrong.
- Over ten minutes pass before the first officer finally decides he'd better tell somebody the driver has a gunshot wound.
- Officer claims it was an accidental discharge and that he was trying to stop the driver from fleeing. District Attorney determines there was no crime.
- Driver dies several weeks later.
- Only after massive public outrage does he agree to pursue involuntary manslaughter.
- Officer gets six months in jail and some probation.
- The Aristocrats.

[redraider86]

Meanwhile, in Philly, an officer named Joey Balogna (of course) beats a protester about the face and head with his baton and blows the arrest, gets rightfully prosecuted for felony aggravated assault, and the union robotically declares that it is "a slap in the face to every officer" and "sends an anti-police message", declaring Balogna one of Philly's most respected police leaders.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...sault-charges/

In fact, the guy's literally famous for scandals, even running a squad that was falsifying search warrants to conduct armed robberies of local businesses, including one where he was caught on video reminding them to turn off the security cameras.

I swear the unions do this chit specifically to enrage the public. Manufacturing a "war on police" is a for-profit enterprise.

Being seen in one of these monstrosities would be like a fireman wearing a shirt in support of another fireman caught on video lighting a house on fire. I think a few weeks ago there might have been some room to be skeptical that the entire system is as corrupt as activists say it is. Then they do braindead stuff like this and leave no room for doubt.

20 bucks a pop in the cop shop.

[leoslayer1]

This kind of crap pisses me off. You stand up for your rights and police label you Sovereign Citizen.

Notice how the cop embellishes the story as each new cop comes along so he can try to escalate?

[ANumber1]

Being seen in one of these monstrosities would be like a fireman wearing a shirt in support of another fireman caught on video lighting a house on fire. I think a few weeks ago there might have been some room to be skeptical that the entire system is as corrupt as activists say it is.

Some union greaseball walking around in a Bologna Strong t-shirt getting batteries whipped at him by passersby, telling himself it's because he's a heroic martyr to law and order. There's a lot to unpack there, and Philly Twitter is lit.

Also saw this today, a Florida FOP inviting people pushed out over police brutality to apply in their county:
https://twitter.com/travisakers/stat...97937133838337

Also, Minnesota state police admit to being behind a rash of tire slashings around Minneapolis:
https://reason.com/2020/06/08/video-...loyd-protests/

It was "strategic" because they were afraid people would drive too fast.

[rhadam]

LMAO now it all makes sense why this cuck is so angry all the time. Cot damn I knew he was just an old loser not getting any pussy. You can always tell the dudes who don't get laid.. they take it out on the internet. Bro you're pathetic. And by bro I mean never my fukking bro.. I don't hang out with bigots.

[leoslayer1]

This manlet looks for physical confrontation.

Pulling people out of their car for 5 over?

[leoslayer1]

This is a cop breaking down this shooting

[ANumber1]

Cops casually threatening to murder people:

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/st...93746329485312

Cops start teargassing an obviously peaceful protest because LOL:

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/st...25612478590977

Cops refusing to give a diabetic protester her insulin back:

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/st...02974498762757

Also, this Tweet:

[TBO1313]

Also, Minnesota state police admit to being behind a rash of tire slashings around Minneapolis:
https://reason.com/2020/06/08/video-...loyd-protests/

It was "strategic" because they were afraid people would drive too fast.

You have got to be chittin me...

[leoslayer1]

You have got to be chittin me...

I've been telling you guys for years.

The worst criminal organization in the United States is the police.

[badbl00d]

[leoslayer1]

Lol that cop saying whatever you think of the video it doesn't reflect on what we do everyday.

[badbl00d]

Lol that cop saying whatever you think of the video it doesn't reflect on what we do everyday.

Cops do 3 things.

1. beat their wives
2. beat their meat
3. beat you

[leoslayer1]

Cops do 3 things.

1. beat their wives
2. beat their meat
3. beat you

I don't get their brains.

They don't know the law.

They think they are the law like Judge Dread.

They have fragile egos.

They think they are our masters and constantly bark illegal orders like this clown.

[badbl00d]

I don't get their brains.

They don't know the law.

They think they are the law like Judge Dread.

They have fragile egos.

They think they are our masters and constantly bark illegal orders like this clown.

A few things need to change.

1. All settlements and payouts come from Police pension. They'll think twice when it's their own money.

2. No more internal affairs. All review must be done by a 100% independent agency. The "We've investigated ourselves, and found nothing wrong" chit needs to stop.

3. 3 strike rule...3 misconduct violations...Mental eval, and desk duty until cleared. Any further violations will result in suspensions, and/or termination.

4. Stop weeding out intelligent candidates.

We as the people need to stop acting like police are above criticism, they are not. Sure their job is tough, and stressful, but that doesn't give a free pass to escalate situations and act hastily. There cannot be a shoot first, ask questions later policy. "What if" scenarios can never be on the table, because where does it stop? I'm not against police, but we can't ignore there needs to be some tuning.

[leoslayer1]

A few things need to change.

1. All settlements and payouts come from Police pension. They'll think twice when it's their own money.

2. No more internal affairs. All review must be done by a 100% independent agency. The "We've investigated ourselves, and found nothing wrong" chit needs to stop.

3. 3 strike rule...3 misconduct violations...Mental eval, and desk duty until cleared. Any further violations will result in suspensions, and/or termination.

4. Stop weeding out intelligent candidates.

We as the people need to stop acting like police are above criticism, they are not. Sure their job is tough, and stressful, but that doesn't give a free pass to escalate situations and act hastily. There cannot be a shoot first, ask questions later policy. "What if" scenarios can never be on the table, because where does it stop? I'm not against police, but we can't ignore there needs to be some tuning.

Get rid of qualified immunity

Support mandatory maximum sentences for cops that commit crimes. No chance at parole no good behavior time.

[badbl00d]

Get rid of qualified immunity

Support mandatory maximum sentences for cops that commit crimes. No chance at parole no good behavior time.

I don't know about all that. Them getting the sentences normal offenders get would be nice though.

[leoslayer1]

This is everyday in America.

Hey bootlickers defend this!!

[ANumber1]

I don't know about all that. Them getting the sentences normal offenders get would be nice though.

I'm on board with that, qualified immunity reform, and recourse to collect Section 1983 judgments from government pensions. If you recklessly and unlawfully kill a citizen in the line of duty, it should not be possible for taxpayers to be simultaneously on the hook for your retirement and for compensating the family of the person you killed, which is what juries are presently left with even in cases where qualified immunity does not apply. You can be awarded a million dollar judgment and not be able to touch pension payments, so most attorneys focus on pushing the jury toward assigning liability to the government (deep pockets), even if it isn't really their fault.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

A few things need to change.

1. All settlements and payouts come from Police pension. They'll think twice when it's their own money.

2. No more internal affairs. All review must be done by a 100% independent agency. The "We've investigated ourselves, and found nothing wrong" chit needs to stop.

3. 3 strike rule...3 misconduct violations...Mental eval, and desk duty until cleared. Any further violations will result in suspensions, and/or termination.

4. Stop weeding out intelligent candidates.

We as the people need to stop acting like police are above criticism, they are not. Sure their job is tough, and stressful, but that doesn't give a free pass to escalate situations and act hastily. There cannot be a shoot first, ask questions later policy. "What if" scenarios can never be on the table, because where does it stop? I'm not against police, but we can't ignore there needs to be some tuning.

These are very solid suggestions. I will say that point#1 will likely add to one of the biggest problems currently with the police departments.

I said it before, but being a cop isn't an attractive career. It's stressful, you get chit on daily, deal with idiots and often times make crap money unless you're in a big city but even then cost of living negates that. Unless you have a family history or the internal drive to be a cop, there are very few reasons for a smart, level headed person to go to the academy when they can make a lot more money for doing a lot less. This will lead to a weaker overall selection pool for the departments.

You'll always have the "Chad" who peaked in high school and realizes life is over, so he pursues a career as a cop to maintain some semblance of power and authority. Even when PDS get a solid candidate, they will often end up moving up the chain to detective or even government work.

[leoslayer1]

I don't know about all that. Them getting the sentences normal offenders get would be nice though.

Yes that's a start but they aren't normal offenders.

As agents of the government they should be held to a higher standard than us.

Thus stiffer punishment.


If they don't like it then use the famous cop line.

"If you don't do anything wrong then you won't have anything to worry about."

[rippedandforty]

OP you are truly a *******. Of course if you give the wrong guy a badge and the power that comes with it there will be some problems. You are making it out like this common procedure. It's not. This is what would happen if a little out of shape ******* like you had a badge.

[badbl00d]

Yes that's a start but they aren't normal offenders.

As agents of the government they should be held to a higher standard than us.

Thus stiffer punishment.


If they don't like it then use the famous cop line.

"If you don't do anything wrong then you won't have anything to worry about."

I understand, but that's a slippery slope. That in itself would lead to corruption and potential even greater coverups.

[ko300zx]

I think the vast majority of them range from all out cop land training day scum to guys that stretch the law and violate people's constitutional rights on a weekly basis.

But cops took an oath to uphold the constitution and they violate their oath daily.

Some stories and videos may be old. Some may be reposts.

There's some 800,000 officers employed in the US. If this is a daily occurrence by the vast majority, why do you have to resort to old videos and reposts? You should have thousands on thousands that you could post every day.