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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    That was before he went to Mecca later the same month.
    and after he left the NOI

    the views that we know he changed were that he began to believe that white people and black people can work together. saying that he completely rejected everything he spoke about in the past, especially as it pertains to the video I posted is just conjecture. he never said anything subsequently that directly contradicted this view.

    edit: and Balkan's post summed it up better than mine he still had a hatred for parties and people pandering and fooling black folk.
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    Originally Posted by BRANDERSS View Post
    Inb4 "ThE pArTiEs SwItChEd" with no indication of when.
    They switched over a long period of time.

    Republicans were originally big government.
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    Sounds a lot like today's Larry Elder-

    Goes in dry on the truth with no fuks given about the truth behind the real troubles blacks face:

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    should I post it on my wall?
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    and after he left the NOI

    the views that we know he changed were that he began to believe that white people and black people can work together. saying that he completely rejected everything he spoke about in the past, especially as it pertains to the video I posted is just conjecture. he never said anything subsequently that directly contradicted this view.

    edit: and Balkan's post summed it up better than mine he still had a hatred for parties and people pandering and fooling black folk.
    How was the civil rights movement and legislation pandering and fooling black folk?
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    Would Malcolm X be black according to Joe Biden? Somebody please ask Ja Rule to make sense of all of this! These are the real questions that need to be asked!

    But nah on a serious note though, I think based on how he changed a lot of his views later in life, he probably wouldn't include the word "white" but just liberals/liberalism in general. Dude also bashed the Democrats for bamboozling the black community but am not sure what opinions he held of other political entities/parties. I think there is a lot of truth to what he says that ring true to this day. He died a hero but I always wondered if he were alive how he would be perceived today? Could he have changed things? Or would black people in general consider him an enemy?


    Also on a srs note. Why is there no Malcolm X day as far as I know? I know the guy espoused some violent and dangerous rhetoric back in his NOI days but he changed quite a bit. Even growing up in school, most teachers would teach mostly about MLK and MX would be almost a footnote. I took a course on religion in university and during the islam portion of it is where they talked alot about Malcolm X as especially the black muslim community hold him in high regard.

    I just picture him bashing all the phaggots posting black squares on social media and talking how about some real change like people writing letters to congress demanding change, things that require actual effort and work and more likely to produce change that nobody forgets about a week later.
    Malcolm doesn't have a day because his goal was for the advancement of black people whereas MLk was more about getting people to get along.
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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    Malcolm doesn't have a day because his goal was for the advancement of black people whereas MLk was more about getting people to get along.
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    Malcolm didn't give a fuk about getting along, at least at first.
    Pretty much this.

    MLK's mission was to get white people to feel sorry for the black community and to enact change that way. I respect MLK for everything he did for this country, but his message through the years has slowly removed a lot of his stances as well and he started to realize the validity of violence (in the 50's he kept an entire arsenal of weapons)

    At a certain point MLK grew tired along with the younger generation of the black community in the slow progress they were making, and understood that there were restrictions by using nonviolence as a weapon against violent oppressors

    “Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena,” he told the assembled crowd of mostly white doctors and academics. “They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking.”
    I had always felt that to a certain point both men were actually "meeting in the middle" of their viewpoints towards the end of their life
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    He did ultimately embrace the civil rights movement, and yes at that time the Democrats and Republicans were in a process of switching sides over the race issue.
    He embraced civil rights but not in the context of this charade of what white liberals push. The democrats switching with republicans didn’t impress him. He believed in Black Americans running their own business without any party telling them what to do.

    If Malcolm was alive today, he would be even more outraged with liberals than he was back then. Imagine what he would think of self-declared black activists like Jay Z and Lil Wayne???? Or Democratic yes-men like Al Sharpton? LOL
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    Originally Posted by BalkanPrince View Post
    He embraced civil rights but not in the context of this charade of what white liberals push. The democrats switching with republicans didn’t impress him. He believed in Black Americans running their own business without any party telling them what to do.

    If Malcolm was alive today, he would be even more outraged with liberals than he was back then. Imagine what he would think of self-declared black activists like Jay Z and Lil Wayne???? Or Democratic yes-men like Al Sharpton? LOL
    What charade? What are you even talking about?
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    What charade? What are you even talking about?
    The Democratic White liberal charade that says you aren’t black if you don’t vote for their people. The charade of their candidate having a slip up and saying “black kids can be just as smart as white kids”. The charade of using minorities to get into power so they can help other white liberals (feminists and homosexuals) while leaving all others in the dark. The charade of cringe fake inclusiveness of minorities (example like Arabs/Muslims) while their idol Obama expands bombardment of the same people they pretend to care about. The charade of pretending to be what they are not.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    How was the civil rights movement and legislation pandering and fooling black folk?
    did you listen to the video?
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    Malcolm X would’ve been a MAGA Republican.
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    Originally Posted by BalkanPrince View Post
    The Democratic White liberal charade that says you aren’t black if you don’t vote for their people.
    Republicans go to lengths to diminish the voting power of blacks. Democrats try to increase it.

    Interpret that however you like.

    The charade of their candidate having a slip up and saying “black kids can be just as smart as white kids”.
    How is that a charade? There's no racial marker for intelligence.

    The charade of using minorities to get into power so they can help other white liberals (feminists and homosexuals) while leaving all others in the dark.
    Bull****

    The charade of cringe fake inclusiveness of minorities (example like Arabs/Muslims) while their idol Obama expands bombardment of the same people they pretend to care about.
    Attacking terrorists abroad doesn't make inclusiveness of Arabs or Muslims at home fake.

    The charade of pretending to be what they are not.
    You don't get to say what people care about and what they don't.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Pretty much this.

    MLK's mission was to get white people to feel sorry for the black community and to enact change that way. I respect MLK for everything he did for this country, but his message through the years has slowly removed a lot of his stances as well and he started to realize the validity of violence (in the 50's he kept an entire arsenal of weapons)

    At a certain point MLK grew tired along with the younger generation of the black community in the slow progress they were making, and understood that there were restrictions by using nonviolence as a weapon against violent oppressors
    Don’t forget that MLK didn’t really become beloved until the mid-80s. He was still considered an agitator before that.

    The hate mail he received sounds like a typical R&P right winger post.

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    agreed on many points here. studied X in college and was fascinated to learn of his change in philosophy/softening of his original stance as time went on. you don't hear that too often, just his more militant side.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Republicans go to lengths to diminish the voting power of blacks. Democrats try to increase it.

    Interpret that however you like.



    How is that a charade? There's no racial marker for intelligence.



    Bull****



    Attacking terrorists abroad doesn't make inclusiveness of Arabs or Muslims at home fake.



    You don't get to say what people care about and what they don't.
    I'm gonna need you to explain the whole diminishing vote thing. Are you referring to voter ID?
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    Originally Posted by BalkanPrince View Post
    The Democratic White liberal charade that says you aren’t black if you don’t vote for their people. The charade of their candidate having a slip up and saying “black kids can be just as smart as white kids”. The charade of using minorities to get into power so they can help other white liberals (feminists and homosexuals) while leaving all others in the dark. The charade of cringe fake inclusiveness of minorities (example like Arabs/Muslims) while their idol Obama expands bombardment of the same people they pretend to care about. The charade of pretending to be what they are not.
    He would expose their veiled racism about voter ID because Democrats think minorities are too stupid to be able to get or afford an ID...


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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    I'm gonna need you to explain the whole diminishing vote thing. Are you referring to voter ID?
    Republicans in NC (and I'm sure nationwide) have been repeatedly busted for drawing bizarrely shaped congressional districts. Districts that look like an octopus with tentacles twisting out in a very not obviously sensible way.

    The reason is they use demographics to try to trap minority voters in ways that reduces their political buying power.

    In some cases, preventing a voting block that can win an election. They're notorious for this, which is why some states have to have these maps reviewed for legitimacy for the voting rights act.

    Republicans want that to go away, so they can engineer districts to suppress minorities.

    And regarding voter ID, here...it was busted because it became known that the reason for the change was racist. They knew it would diminish Hispanic and black voters and you can't have a voting practice for a racist reason.
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    A black man advocating for progress from within the black "community" itself, true alpha in the current age of victim olympics

    Don't know much about the rest of his views though so cant comment on that but gotta agree with this take
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    Originally Posted by JewishSuperHero View Post
    Don’t forget that MLK didn’t really become beloved until the mid-80s. He was still considered an agitator before that.

    The hate mail he received sounds like a typical R&P right winger post.

    https://splinternews.com/martin-luth...cis-1793850027
    Lmao holy chit it really does sound like a right wing R&P miscer good lord.. You just gotta substitute some words with "joggers" or "dindu" instead.. I see you guys have had the same playbook for years huh
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    Originally Posted by xbluexhawkx View Post
    Malcolm X said: “The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.”
    But.. but I don't understand.



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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Malcom X changed his views after leaving the nation of Islam and converting to Sunni Islam. He went to their great pilgrimage and encountered muslims of all races getting along, white, black, brown...everyone.

    He abandoned his views that whites and blacks couldn't get along and work together for racial equality.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X

    OP and those jumping to agreement are simply ignoring or ignorant this phase of his life, which was not too long before his death.
    You have to reach and misinterpret so much that its embarrassing.

    The quote had nothing to do with WHITE and BLACK people having problems...

    Its WHITE LIBERALS who are the problem... Just like you and your lying ilk.
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    Malcolm also understood the danger China would pose to America in the coming generations. He said, "The political language of the future would be Chinese and the spiritual language would be Arabic". Christianity is falling and Islam is as strong as ever in its zeal, it looks like Islam could be the dominant religion of the future. How come American leaders allowed this? You cannot tell me they did not see these things coming.

    Malcolm X was a very high IQ individual.
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