Here is one for the Anti Maskers

[Corbi]

O.K so gyms are closed again. Lmfao...

And yet large scale protests are still fine.....

[x-trainer ben]

I'm wondering how long my gym will stay open. My State is one of the high risk States. Tik Tok.

That sucks! We are at our lowest percentage 4.5%(infection rate) so we are doing ok.....for now. The parking lots are still empty and i still only see about 15-20 people at a time.

[sy2502]

In some areas it is dying down however, some states are breaking records and going backwards.

Cases may be going up somewhere, but mortality keeps nosediving. Heard a very interesting interview with a doctor talking about how "infected" means close to nothing without the viral count, and how they are seeing lower and lower counts in new cases. Low count means very mild or no symptoms, and also means you are much less likely to give it to anyone.

[mtpockets]

Cases may be going up somewhere, but mortality keeps nosediving. Heard a very interesting interview with a doctor talking about how "infected" means close to nothing without the viral count, and how they are seeing lower and lower counts in new cases. Low count means very mild or no symptoms, and also means you are much less likely to give it to anyone.

Florida's coronavirus death rate rose again Saturday, setting a one-week record of nearly 500 fatalities that is about 80 more that the previous seven-day high set in early May.

The state health department reported 96 new deaths, bringing the total for the week to 496 or an average of nearly 71 per day. Three weeks ago, Florida's seven-day average for deaths stood at 30 before it began creeping up and then exploded in recent days, as a record 120 deaths were reported Thursday and another 92 on Friday.

[induced_drag]

Florida's coronavirus death rate rose again Saturday, setting a one-week record of nearly 500 fatalities that is about 80 more that the previous seven-day high set in early May.

The state health department reported 96 new deaths, bringing the total for the week to 496 or an average of nearly 71 per day. Three weeks ago, Florida's seven-day average for deaths stood at 30 before it began creeping up and then exploded in recent days, as a record 120 deaths were reported Thursday and another 92 on Friday.

Hospitals confirm mistakes in Florida’s COVID-19 report

MASSIVE overreporting of cases in florida with many testing centers just giving every test a 'positive'.


https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fo...ovid-19-report

[mtpockets]

Hospitals confirm mistakes in Florida’s COVID-19 report

MASSIVE overreporting of cases in florida with many testing centers just giving every test a 'positive'.


https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fo...ovid-19-report

My quote was addressing the death rate not infections




That would make the death rate per infection rate even higher

[induced_drag]

That would make the death rate per infection rate even higher

Dont know if you watched the news clip, but something is up. Looks like widespread over-reporting of positive test results.

Only one provider admitting there are mistakes. Others have not responded.

SOMETHING is going on..... Very hard not to think there is an agenda when you see manipulation on this scale. (not just from one provider. )

[mtpockets]

Dont know if you watched the news clip, but something is up. Looks like widespread over-reporting of positive test results.

Only one provider admitting there are mistakes. Others have not responded.

SOMETHING is going on..... Very hard not to think there is an agenda when you see manipulation on this scale. (not just from one provider. )

I did watch it, something is definitely up with the positive rate numbers in some locations.

Florida just broke another record


Florida health officials report 132 coronavirus-related deaths, breaking the state's record for most deaths in a single day due to Covid-19

[x-trainer ben]

With hospitalizations rising, Florida governor calls in 3,000 nurses to help manage COVID-19 cases
Florida's governor is calling in 3,000 nurses to help hospitals and nursing homes manage rising coronavirus cases statewide.
In Miami, one health expert says the city is now the epicenter of the pandemic.
6H AGO.

3,000 extra nurses needed from other states shows me that just like NYC was......... Florida is in a growth phase currently.

[Jtbny]

And yet large scale protests are still fine.....

Because if you said they weren't the same people making this argument would be all like "MY FREEDOMS!!".


As for Fla cases - It was reported two months ago they were under reporting and now they are over reporting. I guess what ever fits an agenda /shrug

My BIL tested positive last Mon and again on Friday. He had no symptoms and was only tested because he was going in to have a kidney removed. If anyone would die it will this meatball. Doesn't take care of his health at all, underlying conditions, 51 years old, former heavy smoker and drinker. Yet, he has zero symptoms so far. Guess we will see.

[Mark1T]

Because if you said they weren't the same people making this argument would be all like "MY FREEDOMS!!".


As for Fla cases - It was reported two months ago they were under reporting and now they are over reporting. I guess what ever fits an agenda /shrug

My BIL tested positive last Mon and again on Friday. He had no symptoms and was only tested because he was going in to have a kidney removed. If anyone would die it will this meatball. Doesn't take care of his health at all, underlying conditions, 51 years old, former heavy smoker and drinker. Yet, he has zero symptoms so far. Guess we will see.

Proof meatballs might be immune

Be a meatball.

[ElrondHubbard]

Remember the good old days when the summer heat was just going to wipe the thing out?

Remember the gooder, older days, when it was all just a Democratic/Chinese hoax?


Oh, to be young again!

[acrawlingchaos]

Remember the good old days when the summer heat was just going to wipe the thing out?

Remember the gooder, older days, when it was all just a Democratic/Chinese hoax?


Oh, to be young again!

Ya.... it's pretty much non existent where I am... pretty much from the beginning. Thanks for playing.

[mtpockets]

[x-trainer ben]

hillarious

[LWW]

(GRAND LEDGE, Mich.) — A Michigan sheriff’s deputy on Tuesday fatally shot a man suspected of stabbing another man who had challenged him about not wearing a mask at a convenience store, police said.

The shooting occurred in Eaton County, southwest of Lansing, about 30 minutes after the stabbing at a Quality Dairy store, state police Lt. Brian Oleksyk said.

A sheriff’s deputy spotted the man’s vehicle in a residential neighborhood and shot him when he tried to attack her with a knife, Oleksyk said.

Sean Ruis, 43, of Grand Ledge, who worked at the Michigan Department of Transportation, died at a hospital. He was suspected of stabbing a 77-year-old man inside the store when he was confronted about not wearing a mask, Oleksyk said.

The stabbing victim was in stable condition at a hospital. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has ordered people to wear masks in stores to reduce the risk of spreading the coronavirus.

The decision about whether to wear a mask in public for some has become a political statement, and there have been other instances of violent encounters over masks. In May, a security guard at a Family Dollar store in Flint was fatally shot after denying entry to a customer without a mask.

I started a thread a while back about the best way to avoid Covid, “when you see someone not wearing a mask, leave ‘em alone”.

When a crime is committed everyone looks the other way, when someone ain’t wearing a mask, they turn into Charles Bronson, I don’t see logic, guess I need a stool!

[ElrondHubbard]

I don’t see logic, guess I need a stool!

There are some things we don't need to know, and somethings that were obvious from the beginning.

[mtpockets]

Walmart, the world's largest retailer, is the latest national chain to require all customers to wear masks.

The change will start next week. Starbucks (SBUX)said last week that it will require customers to wear facial coverings or masks in all 9,000 of its company-owned US stores beginning Wednesday. Best Buy (BBY) announced Tuesday that it will also require all shoppers coming into its approximately 1,000 stores to wear face masks. Costco (COST) began requiring its members to wear masks in stores beginning in May.

[LWW]

There are some things we don't need to know, and somethings that were obvious from the beginning.

So it’s easy for you to come out of hiding here, but you continue and always will dodge me on anything that challenges your bias.

[LWW]

Walmart, the world's largest retailer, is the latest national chain to require all customers to wear masks.

The change will start next week. Starbucks (SBUX)said last week that it will require customers to wear facial coverings or masks in all 9,000 of its company-owned US stores beginning Wednesday. Best Buy (BBY) announced Tuesday that it will also require all shoppers coming into its approximately 1,000 stores to wear face masks. Costco (COST) began requiring its members to wear masks in stores beginning in May.

I don’t shop at any of those stores, and Walmart is probially a China silent partner.

[ElrondHubbard]

So it’s easy for you to come out of hiding here, but you continue and always will dodge me on anything that challenges your bias.

You could challenge my bias a lot better if you were able to discuss it, or anything else for that matter, with a minimal level of coherence.

[LWW]

You could challenge my bias a lot better if you were able to discuss it, or anything else for that matter, with a minimal level of coherence.

Nice excuse to dodge me, you sound like Biden, and Biden does not seem to have a minimal level of coherence as well.

Biden is always saved by the clock, his time is always up and he always needs to leave, or else he’ll get in trouble? What’s gonna happen when he gets that 2am call in the WH? I can see you would be ok with the response of “I’m sleeping man”.

[lotusdeva]

Interesting study:

https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/stud...outbreak-57293

Xie and his colleagues found that those with better working memory capacity were more likely to indicate that they had followed social distancing guidelines, such as not shaking hands and avoiding social gatherings.

and

The researchers also found that higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness were associated with greater social distancing compliance. But the link between working memory and social distancing held even after controlling for these factors and others.

and

Those with better working memory capacity also tended to view social distancing as having more benefits than costs and were more likely to have a preference for fairness during an Ultimatum Game, which partially explained the association.

[induced_drag]

Interesting study:

https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/stud...outbreak-57293

Xie and his colleagues found that those with better working memory capacity were more likely to indicate that they had followed social distancing guidelines, such as not shaking hands and avoiding social gatherings.

and

The researchers also found that higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness were associated with greater social distancing compliance. But the link between working memory and social distancing held even after controlling for these factors and others.

and

Those with better working memory capacity also tended to view social distancing as having more benefits than costs and were more likely to have a preference for fairness during an Ultimatum Game, which partially explained the association.

"higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness associated with greater social distancing compliance."


Well which one is it? Seems like the biggest bunch of trash I can imagine. Amazing what is passing as "science" lately.

[acrawlingchaos]

Interesting study:

https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/stud...outbreak-57293

Xie and his colleagues found that those with better working memory capacity were more likely to indicate that they had followed social distancing guidelines, such as not shaking hands and avoiding social gatherings.

and

The researchers also found that higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness were associated with greater social distancing compliance. But the link between working memory and social distancing held even after controlling for these factors and others.

and

Those with better working memory capacity also tended to view social distancing as having more benefits than costs and were more likely to have a preference for fairness during an Ultimatum Game, which partially explained the association.

Do you have actual studies to go with that? Would love to see the methodology and actual breakdown of these 850 individuals.

"higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness associated with greater social distancing compliance."


Well which one is it? Seems like the biggest bunch of trash I can imagine. Amazing what is passing as "science" lately.

Seems like a fluff piece where they use an abstract with hidden methods and outcomes to make a political point. I'm also highly interested in their funding and don't take their word on having no competing interest.



https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2.../09/2008868117

[lotusdeva]

Do you have actual studies to go with that? Would love to see the methodology and actual breakdown of these 850 individuals.

Seems like a fluff piece where they use an abstract with hidden methods and outcomes to make a political point. As with most pieces of their nature, I'm also highly interested in their funding and don't take their word on having no competing interest.



https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2.../09/2008868117

Here you go:

https://www-pnas-org.proxygw.wrlc.or.../09/2008868117

[lotusdeva]

"higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness associated with greater social distancing compliance."


Well which one is it? Seems like the biggest bunch of trash I can imagine. Amazing what is passing as "science" lately.

Which portion of this study is "biggest bunch of trash"? The hypothesis formulation? Variables? Data collection? Methods?

[acrawlingchaos]

Here you go:

https://www-pnas-org.proxygw.wrlc.or.../09/2008868117

That's the same link I posted. It's requiring a $10 access fee for anything beyond the abstract.


We can't discuss your highly dubious study that states people who don't agree with them are unable to handle information as well as them.... unless you actually post the information.

Which portion of this study is "biggest bunch of trash"? The hypothesis formulation? Variables? Data collection? Methods?

Post the full study.



"We found that participants’ social-distancing compliance at this initial stage could be predicted by individual differences in WM capacity, partly due to increased awareness of benefits over costs of social distancing among higher WM capacity individuals."

This, for instance, is one hell of a loaded statement.... and from someone who is impartial.

[induced_drag]

Which portion of this study is "biggest bunch of trash"? The hypothesis formulation? Variables? Data collection? Methods?

I cant see data....only abstract.

"higher levels of fluid intelligence and agreeableness associated with greater social distancing compliance."

I summed it up what jumped out at me immediately in my quote from the study. If you cant see issue with this, not sure what to tell ya. Which one is it.....higher fluid intelligence or being more agreeable makes you more likely to be compliant. It is almost funny typing that question since it kind of answers itself.

[acrawlingchaos]

I cant see data....only abstract.




I summed it up what jumped out at me immediately in my quote from the study. If you cant see issue with this, not sure what to tell ya. Which one is it.....higher fluid intelligence or being more agreeable makes you more likely to be compliant. It is almost funny typing that question since it kind of answers itself.

Both I guess. It means smart people who are kind wear masks; and that us dumb *ssholes don't.

Political trash.... though I'll hold out a little for the actual study information..... if she decides to post it.