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    fat stomach's...big ballish stomach vs muffin top stomach ..why the difference?

    its interesting i noticed with guys that are
    over weight,

    you have the normal fat dude who puts weight on mainly
    on the stomach area and his belly sticks out like a ball...

    this is common

    but there is another type

    fat dude gains weight kind off more all over the body
    and he has a lot of stomach fat but his fat belly
    looks more flat but is a thick layer of fat that hangs low
    in a muffin top of way?

    why the difference?
    which is harder to get rid of ?
    and how differently do you deal with them?
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    Genetics.

    How hard it is to get rid of depends on total fat mass, strength of appetite, psychological factors like stubbornness, persistence vs. impulsiveness or self destructive or self defeating behaviours. And also possible metabolic problems like insulin resistance.

    There is no difference with how you deal with them. Fat loss always happens because you burn more calories than you consume. That's it.
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    Genetics are a bish, when I gain weight, I get love handles, tits, looks terrible, but on the flip side I'm extremely fit. I think the jiggle fatties are more fit than the Kanevsky fatties. I can run long distances and stuff, but I'd probably prefer the latter aesthetically.
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    Originally Posted by nikeoneplatinum View Post
    Genetics are a bish, when I gain weight, I get love handles, tits, looks terrible, but on the flip side I'm extremely fit. I think the jiggle fatties are more fit than the Kanevsky fatties. I can run long distances and stuff, but I'd probably prefer the latter aesthetically.
    yeah i know how you feel
    with me though
    i gain and lose weight quite quickly
    which is a little odd too lol
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    Originally Posted by ivanovichjones View Post
    i gain and lose weight quite quickly
    That could be water weight. Actual fat doesn't come or go quickly. It can always be explained by a surplus or deficit of calories - 3500 for every lb of bodyfat.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    That could be water weight. Actual fat doesn't come or go quickly. It can always be explained by a surplus or deficit of calories - 3500 for every lb of bodyfat.
    can water weight affect how your fat looks and feels? I was bulking and my lower chest was pointy and felt more squishy but few days in a cut, it became less pointy and more firm
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    No but it can affect skin hydration. The point is not to worry about these things but concern yourself with things that matter - gaining muscle and/or losing fat.
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    It's all genetics.

    Some people have great "fat storing" genetics in that their fat is fairly evenly distributed across their entire body. These are the guys that still look thick but muscular at 20% BF with a somewhat tapered midsection.

    Other people (like me) tend to store a disproportionate amount of fat on the lower back and stomach leading to the spare tire/muffin top look at almost any BF level over 12%.

    Even worse, if you have been fat enough to be in the obese range, the fat tends to stretch out the skin so that even after most of the fat has gone, you still end up with a muffin top effect as the stretched out skin tends to droop down and sag as the fat cells become depleted and the skin essentially loses internal stability.
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    Originally Posted by Luclin999 View Post
    Even worse, if you have been fat enough to be in the obese range, the fat tends to stretch out the skin so that even after most of the fat has gone, you still end up with a muffin top effect as the stretched out skin tends to droop down and sag as the fat cells become depleted and the skin essentially loses internal stability.
    I think I have this issue. I assume that developing my abs and making them bigger will solve some of the droop as it'll be tighter?
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    Originally Posted by CBRIT89 View Post
    I think I have this issue. I assume that developing my abs and making them bigger will solve some of the droop as it'll be tighter?
    A bit...maybe.

    It depends upon just how loose the skin is.

    I mean if you are looking to get the classic "V" taper then having to bulk up your abs and obliques by a couple of inches total around the midsection to compensate for the loose skin in that area will likely take a bit away from that effect.

    On the other hand, looking a bit "thick" but muscular may well be a better aesthetic option over having a narrow waist with sagging skin.

    And if you are going more for the "powerlifer" physique, well then the more bulked up mid-section goes right along with that goal.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    That could be water weight. Actual fat doesn't come or go quickly. It can always be explained by a surplus or deficit of calories - 3500 for every lb of bodyfat.
    not sure but i do train hard its mainly how i eat at the time.

    i have added or lost 20-30 pounds in a 2-3 mouths
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    Originally Posted by ivanovichjones View Post
    not sure but i do train hard its mainly how i eat at the time.

    i have added or lost 20-30 pounds in a 2-3 mouths
    Sounds like you need to get a grip on your calorie intake. The idea that you have to starve to lose fat or stuff yourself silly to gain muscle are both unnecessary. Lose fat at no more than 1% per week. Weight gain during a muscle gaining phase should be much slower - no more than 1kg a month even for skinny people.
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