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    These riots are looking dumber and dumber lol
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    Originally Posted by nickh04 View Post
    doesn't matter because the phaggot leftists are already looting and causing mayhem which was the plan all along
    He was still murdered
    he can be down with opp it doesnt matter
    guy was still murdered for a bounced check
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    Originally Posted by TightBHole View Post
    Hi! I work in law enforcement! (Corrections, but it still counts, god dammit)

    Someone being intoxicated during arrest does not absolve the primary officer from the duty to preserve life. You might have a bit of leeway if he was high on PCP and resisting arrest, but (from what I can tell) that wasn't the case. He was clearly submissive for close to 10 minutes of recorded footage. The fact that he was on meth and fentanyl (which makes zero sense) or that he was a prior felon or was in porn is irrelevant. The cop did a sh*tty job and killed the guy, and given the amount of scrutiny these days, especially when dealing with black people, is justifiably worthy of people being pissed off.

    The "people who disagree with me are trolls or retards" or "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACIST! YOU'RE PROJECTING!" is nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by TightBHole View Post
    Hi! I work in law enforcement! (Corrections, but it still counts, god dammit)

    Someone being intoxicated during arrest does not absolve the primary officer from the duty to preserve life. You might have a bit of leeway if he was high on PCP and resisting arrest, but (from what I can tell) that wasn't the case. He was clearly submissive for close to 10 minutes of recorded footage. The fact that he was on meth and fentanyl (which makes zero sense) or that he was a prior felon or was in porn is irrelevant. The cop did a sh*tty job and killed the guy, and given the amount of scrutiny these days, especially when dealing with black people, is justifiably worthy of people being pissed off.

    The "people who disagree with me are trolls or retards" or "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACIST! YOU'RE PROJECTING!" is nonsense.
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    some people see "drugs" and simply die on that hill.

    mind you the killing of Philando Castille, who was a lawful gun owner, saw the officer's defense rest in large part on the argument that Castille was a terrible person for smoking weed as a father. it ****ing worked.

    As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
    and people sworn to serve and protect should, you know, be held to account if they do the opposite of that. which is the entirety of the problem.
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    Originally Posted by Bcl2 View Post
    Okay, thanks for letting us know. He was still murdered in broad daylight.
    Lol beat me to it

    Why are some of you trying to marginalize his death because of drugs in his system?

    Also, what does drugs have to do with him dying? The drugs weren't the cause of his death.
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    he still like...killed the guy though. and even if he was on meth he wasn't resisting. we all saw the vid.


    I'm not saying this to condone rioting, and this is my first post about george. but to act like it still isn't murder is crazy...

    let me guess...AngryBaby is beng a black apologist again bc his Avi is black and this is a race war and he's on the other side lol

    you guys really want to dminish this with anything and it's making me feel like whites got a problem with us
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    am I really gonna read through 3 pages of MISCers not knowing the difference between murder and manslaughter/failure to render aid?
    Originally Posted by AngryBaby View Post
    he still like...killed the guy though. and even if he was on meth he wasn't resisting. we all saw the vid.
    He was compliant up until he got to the cop car where he threw himself on the ground...resisting arrest.

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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Never once did I say I'm for the violence, in fact numerous times I've stated I don't agree with the looting and everything else... but I'm under the same assumption as MLK that I understand it
    Mlk's time was in the 1960s, violence was justified in those times. Black people were treated as subhuman in those years. This is 2020, yes there is racism, yes there is injustice still , but it is nothing like 1960s. What is there to understand about stealing big screen tvs and mac makeup? There is nothing to understand about that.

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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Lol that statement is 100% fact. This nation WAS FORMED because of rioting that led to an eventually revolution and war.

    But even then...... none of what I put says that I'm for violence.
    You’ve been constantly race baiting and I haven’t seen you once express your discontent for the riots. Your stance on them is not a mystery
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Agreed.

    And this cop be criminally liable for his death, but canonizing George Floyd like hid Martin Luther King isn't necessary.

    Here is the accurate headline

    A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money.

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    As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
    "A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money."

    This is the true, accurate timeline.

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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    All I cared about with this report was they left that manner of death to Homocide

    The family already had world famous ME take a look and described it differently

    Dr. Michael Baden, renowned medical examiner, on George Floyd's: The autopsy shows that Floyd has no underlying health problem that contributed to his death.

    "He was in good health," Baden said. "The cause of death is asphyxia compression of the neck and back."
    Of course it's still homicide.

    Doesn't sound like he was in good health though, even if he wasn't abusing hard drugs

    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Lol beat me to it

    Why are some of you trying to marginalize his death because of drugs in his system?

    Also, what does drugs have to do with him dying? The drugs weren't the cause of his death.
    Not sure if srs. They most likely contributed. Respiratory depression is a major side effect of fentanyl and he died of asphyxiation (or something similar)
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    Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Of course it's still homicide.

    Doesn't sound like he was in good health though, even if he wasn't abusing hard drugs
    Anyone that does goofballs like he allegedly did isn't in anything remotely close to "good health".
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    doesn't it take weeks for toxicology reports?
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    All of these can be, and are true simultaneously:

    He had a criminal background

    He fought with officers/ resisted arrest

    He had drugs in his system

    Arresting officers had to control him

    Once controlled, officer kneeler recklessly kept his knee on dudes neck with pressure

    The other 3 officers allowed it to happen
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    Originally Posted by roko79 View Post
    doesn't it take weeks for toxicology reports?
    no most can be done in a few hours if urgent
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    Originally Posted by roko79 View Post
    doesn't it take weeks for toxicology reports?
    I'm not 100% familiar with the process, but usually law enforcement agencies contract with one or two labs maximum to process their samplings.

    These labs that they are signed on with contract with potentially many other agencies and there is a large backlog of autopsies to go through before a more recent autopsy gets looked at.
    it's possible that due to the nature of the incident and its effects on our country (and other countries worldwide I guess), it was prioritized*.

    *source: my ass, fwiw.
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    Originally Posted by HomerJThompson View Post
    Mlk's time was in the 1960s, violence was justified in those times. Black people were treated as subhuman in those years. This is 2020, yes there is racism, yes there is injustice still , but it is nothing like 1960s. What is there to understand about stealing big screen tvs and mac makeup? There is nothing to understand about that.

    At least rolex gucci etc if they can resell, those can pay rent for a few months.
    And in 60 years from now people will look back on how we treated "x" and say why the hell did we treat "x" like that? We would never do that now... that's how this thing works.

    Rioting was a constant during the Vietnam war and future admins and others were very cautious going forward during the future wars to listen to it's citizens, or at the very least make it seem like they were
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    Originally Posted by trippped View Post
    "the police planted it on him! another black man framed by the racist united states!"

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    You’ve been constantly race baiting and I haven’t seen you once express your discontent for the riots. Your stance on them is not a mystery
    Explain how I'm race baiting? I've stated numerous times I don't agree with the violence, but understand them... If you were confused before, now you have my stance for your own eyes
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    Explain how I'm race baiting? I've stated numerous times I don't agree with the violence, but understand them... If you were confused before, now you have my stance for your own eyes
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    his preworkout drink must have been laced. theres no way george did drugs.
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    Originally Posted by HouseOfISRAEL View Post
    He was in drugs, so he deserved to die?

    So all the white heroin users deserve the same huh Phaggot?
    Didn’t think so

    White right wingers are some of the biggest hypocrites
    When it comes to your cousins on opioids, you want them in rehab and they’re “good kids” but George Floyd deserved to die?

    This is why your women hate you and are revolting against you
    no it just saying that he was just another druggie low life with a rap sheet. Not exactly a law abiding citzen.

    Although that doesnt excuse the cops actions he should face the law.

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    Dude was unlawfully killed whilst defenceless.

    Being a drug addict doesn't mean you deserve to have your neck knee-pressed for 8 minutes by some power tripping psycho, who should be helping you. Anything less than serious jail time for that incompetent chitbrain would just be a further tragedy.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    That is literally the point of this thread. The way OP said cause of death “still” listed as homicide suggests he thinks the drugs mean otherwise.

    He didn’t come out and directly say it, but that is the message. Don’t be naive dude. That is exactly the message.

    If not, we agree and no problem.
    I am the OP. I said "still" because this is the county ME report versus prior report from the city ME. So no, your assumption was wrong.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    All I cared about with this report was they left that manner of death to Homocide

    The family already had world famous ME take a look and described it differently

    Dr. Michael Baden, renowned medical examiner, on George Floyd's: The autopsy shows that Floyd has no underlying health problem that contributed to his death.

    "He was in good health," Baden said. "The cause of death is asphyxia compression of the neck and back."
    homicide is the cause of death, but it wasn’t murder. Murder is criminal homicide.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Agreed.

    And this cop should be criminally liable for his death, but canonizing George Floyd like hid Martin Luther King isn't necessary.

    Here is the accurate headline

    A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money.

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    Originally Posted by TightBHole View Post
    The fact that he was on meth and fentanyl (which makes zero sense)
    You haven't been working corrections long if you haven't seen people do that.
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    I don't care if he smoked crack for breakfast every morning, that doesn't make it OK for LEOs to choke him to death in the street.

    Also there is a vast amount of hypocrisy about drugs. Most of the entire world's adult population gets some kind of drug buzz going now and again, but someone is automatically deemed a criminal degenerate if they use the wrong kind of drug.
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    I don't care if he smoked crack for breakfast every morning, that doesn't make it OK for LEOs to choke him to death in the street.

    Also there is a vast amount of hypocrisy about drugs. Most of the entire world's adult population gets some kind of drug buzz going now and again, but someone is automatically deemed a criminal degenerate if they use the wrong kind of drug.
    I generally agree but there are some drugs that apart from others. Meth and PCP make people dangerous maniacs.
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