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    Can a lib explain to me exactly why trump is getting blamed/chastised...

    For the events that have transpired over the past few days?

    Srs thread. Just want to have a discussion.

    Need something more than just trump
    Is a racist so it’s his fault this no name cop in Minnesota murdered a black guy (no sarcasm someone has really told me this)
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    Well it obviously can't be a dems fault so we gotta go through the relevant actors up through the hierarchy to find the guilty party.

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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    Well it obviously can't be a dems fault so we gotta go through the relevant actors up through the hierarchy to find the guilty party.

    Police officer - Democrat
    Police chief - Democrat
    Mayor - Democrat
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    President - Republican - We got em boys, guilty!

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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    For the events that have transpired over the past few days?

    Srs thread. Just want to have a discussion.

    Need something more than just trump
    Is a racist so it’s his fault this no name cop in Minnesota murdered a black guy (no sarcasm someone has really told me this)
    Lol. I dont know if anyone reasonable is straight up blaming Trump. It isnt like he told those Minn. cops to kill Floyd. Likewise, Trump didnt invent police brutality, qualified immunity, or racial tension in America. But his lack of leadership shown during these events and his dumbass tweets definitely deserve criticism.
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    For the events that have transpired over the past few days?

    Srs thread. Just want to have a discussion.

    Need something more than just trump
    Is a racist so it’s his fault this no name cop in Minnesota murdered a black guy (no sarcasm someone has really told me this)
    OP if were a lib in office as presisent right now and had done the same exact things trump has dine the right wouod all be ssyibg and doing the exact same things the left are doing right now

    Its alk just politics as usual
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    Trump spent nearly all of Obama’s time in office ripping him, much of which is memorialized on Twitter. He pretty much outlined his standard for the office by pointing out mistakes he believed Obama was making. This is now used to point out trump’s own failings as he has yet to live up to the standard he set.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...iots-2014/amp/

    Look at these tweets from years ago as they relate to today. By trump’s own standard he has failed miserably.
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    it has to be in part because he doesnt actually give a sht that some "no named cop killed a black guy"
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    Well it obviously can't be a dems fault so we gotta go through the relevant actors up through the hierarchy to find the guilty party.

    Police officer - Democrat
    Police chief - Democrat
    Mayor - Democrat
    House - Democrat
    Governor - Democrat
    President - Republican - We got em boys, guilty!
    Don't forget not 1 but 2 Dem senators
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Trump spent nearly all of Obama’s time in office ripping him, much of which is memorialized on Twitter. He pretty much outlined his standard for the office by pointing out mistakes he believed Obama was making. This is now used to point out trump’s own failings as he has yet to live up to the standard he set.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...iots-2014/amp/

    Look at these tweets from years ago as they relate to today. By trump’s own standard he has failed miserably.

    You are not wrong. But I mean the governors in their individual states haven’t really been proven to be leaders either. And according to what he said today it sounds like he is taking action, which obviously is still left to be seen. I mean I live near Chicago and it “seems” like nothing is really being done - looting and rioting still happening and spreading. Will trump get more flack if he does respond with authority? I feel like no matter what he does he’s wrong in some peoples eyes
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    Because he's divisive and not a good leader, and has no capacity to unite an America he helped fracture.

    This also explains his failed response to the pandemic. Support for countries leaders throughout the world exploded except in America.

    With that said, the blame is on these people themselves. The rioters and that cop.
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    Also seeing chit like this. On my phone and not sure how to post edited pics so I’ll just quote it, this is front my Facebook feed:

    Girl 1: *posts pic of riot damage* This disgusts me. Go ahead and be angry about what happened, but trashing your own city solves NOTHING! To all the men and women in blue, please stay safe.

    Girl 2 response: Yes let’s care more about property than the thousands of black lives taken by the police yearly.

    You have posted nothing about the murder that sparked this, but the outcome, you decided to speak on.!

    How were gay rugjts given!
    Equal pay!
    Pro life?

    Riots and protest, but you’re luckily a white racist woman therefore you have to fight for nothing outside of $5 coffee.

    Your racism is despicable and you deserve what you get.

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Because he's divisive and not a good leader, and has no capacity to unite an America he helped fracture.

    This also explains his failed response to the pandemic. Support for countries leaders throughout the world exploded except in America.

    Trump is odd man out as approval ratings soar for world leaders’ handling of the coronavirus pandemic
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...mic-2020-04-14

    With that said, the blame is on these people themselves. The rioters and that cop.

    I agree, however trump is not the only person being divisive to the American people - media, other politicians, celebrities also divisive in their own agendas
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    Also seeing chit like this. On my phone and not sure how to post edited pics so I’ll just quote it, this is front my Facebook feed:

    Girl 1: *posts pic of riot damage* This disgusts me. Go ahead and be angry about what happened, but trashing your own city solves NOTHING! To all the men and women in blue, please stay safe.

    Girl 2 response: Yes let’s care more about property than the thousands of black lives taken by the police yearly.

    You have posted nothing about the murder that sparked this, but the outcome, you decided to speak on.!

    How were gay rugjts given!
    Equal pay!
    Pro life?

    Riots and protest, but you’re luckily a white racist woman therefore you have to fight for nothing outside of $5 coffee.

    Your racism is despicable and you deserve what you get.

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    IMO second response seems harsh
    This was pretty much verbatim my entire facebook feed lmao
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    it has to be in part because he doesnt actually give a sht that some "no named cop killed a black guy"
    However I’m sure the Antifa members and many rioters don’t care either
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    Lol. I dont know if anyone reasonable is straight up blaming Trump. It isnt like he told those Minn. cops to kill Floyd. Likewise, Trump didnt invent police brutality, qualified immunity, or racial tension in America. But his lack of leadership shown during these events and his dumbass tweets definitely deserve criticism.
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    Not a lib but imo his response has been abysmal at best. Nothing unfiying to speak of and suggesting the US military will police the streets. Situations like this arent trumps strong suit. What has happened is in no way his fault but its hard to find anything positve about his respone to it.
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    I agree, however trump is not the only person being divisive to the American people - media, other politicians, celebrities also divisive in their own agendas
    Absolutely. People found out that anger is a great tool to stir up donations, clicks, likes, followers, etc.

    Trump however is the president and should be held to a high standard. He’s failing even a low one, miserably.
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    I agree that trump hasn’t handled this well however I believe these states
    Governors, mayors, police chiefs should also be held accountable for a weak response. And let’s say trump responded strongly, early on, would he be praised? Or would people say he’s defending white privilege and isn’t letting people have their voices heard/felt?
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    Originally Posted by tng83 View Post
    Not a lib but imo his response has been abysmal at best. Nothing unfiying to speak of and suggesting the US military will police the streets. Situations like this arent trumps strong suit. What has happened is in no way his fault but its hard to find anything positve about his respone to it.
    The fuk is he supposed to do about it? None of you fuking guys ever know what the fuk TRUMP is supposed to do about people rioting like fuking morons?
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    Originally Posted by tng83 View Post
    Not a lib but imo his response has been abysmal at best. Nothing unfiying to speak of and suggesting the US military will police the streets. Situations like this arent trumps strong suit. What has happened is in no way his fault but its hard to find anything positve about his respone to it.
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    However I’m sure the Antifa members and many rioters don’t care either
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    I agree that trump hasn’t handled this well however I believe these states
    Governors, mayors, police chiefs should also be held accountable for a weak response. And let’s say trump responded strongly, early on, would he be praised? Or would people say he’s defending white privilege and isn’t letting people have their voices heard/felt?
    At this point if he would just shut the fck up and go golfing (without his phone) he would be a better leader.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Trump spent nearly all of Obama’s time in office ripping him, much of which is memorialized on Twitter. He pretty much outlined his standard for the office by pointing out mistakes he believed Obama was making. This is now used to point out trump’s own failings as he has yet to live up to the standard he set.

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    Look at these tweets from years ago as they relate to today. By trump’s own standard he has failed miserably.
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    I agree that trump hasn’t handled this well however I believe these states
    Governors, mayors, police chiefs should also be held accountable for a weak response. And let’s say trump responded strongly, early on, would he be praised? Or would people say he’s defending white privilege and isn’t letting people have their voices heard/felt?
    They have all stood before a camera at press conferences and accepted responsibility for various failings in the response. Trump has yet to do that during any point of his presidency.
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    Can a lib explain to me exactly why trump is getting blamed/chastised...

    For the events that have transpired over the past few days?
    Trump is in no way personally responsible for a cop choking a guy to death, or the community perception that cops unfairly target blacks.

    He is however personally responsible for leading the country in a perceived crisis. Judge for yourself whether he's doing a good job there.
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    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    ok so youre putting trump, antifa, and many rioters in the same bucket. hahahaa im cool with that
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    They have all stood before a camera at press conferences and accepted responsibility for various failings in the response. Trump has yet to do that during any point of his presidency.
    Which failings? Arresting the cop that knelt on Floyd's neck?
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    They have all stood before a camera at press conferences and accepted responsibility for various failings in the response. Trump has yet to do that during any point of his presidency.
    I live near Chicago and from what I’ve seen on tv and read our people are not taking much responsibility
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