Hello,
I'm looking to build some muscle and i'm trying out IIFYM for the first time, used calculator and i'm willing to start with this:
2225kcal
148g protein
244g carbs
73g fat
Now I must be doing something wrong, because:
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I read that people usually struggle to not go over with carbs, and struggle to reach their protein intake.
But look at the attached picture please. I just kind of started to fill the meal list.
100g of rice is soo much after you boil them, looking at that mountain of rice, i want to distribute them at least into 3 meals.
but then i have 100g of buckwheat which is a lot when boiled too.
And I still didn't reach the required 244g of carbs...
I can easily add 6-7 more eggs or 200g chicken and reach my protein limit, i can eat that in one sitting no problem, but if i add 100g more rice i won't be able to eat that much i think...
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youtube trainers often say that protein+vegetables should take the most space on the plate, and about 20-30% of the plate should contain carbs.
but I don't see that happening , at least not yet. Judging by this screenshot, my every plate visually will be 20% protein and 60% carbs, the rest will be veggies.
What am i doing wrong?
and maybe a bonus question - how would you suggest reaching enough fat? most of it in this list comes from eggs, i'd like to add something different...
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05-30-2020, 04:47 AM #1
how do you reach enough carbs? IIFYM
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05-30-2020, 05:05 AM #2
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You don't have to hit exact numbers. Calculators are only an initial guess. We recommend setting a minimum for protein and fat - then you can choose any macro combination that meets your calorie target and exceeds the minimums for pro and fat.
Carbs are easy. It doesn't have to be rice, it could be pasta, bread, cereal, potato, fruit. Even candy in moderation (and provided you've got enough micros from the rest of your diet)
Ignore youtube trainers, if you try to blend all their advice you'll just be uselessly pulled in different directions constantly. Stick to the basics. Calorie target, minimums for pro and fat. Sensible choices (mostly whole or minimally processed foods - but not all).
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05-30-2020, 08:11 AM #5
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Bro you make way too many threads...
Also, good luck bulking on 2250
I find it odd anyone has trouble getting enough carbs. Have you heard of cereal? Bananas? Granola? Bread? Sweet Potato? Burritos?Last edited by AdamWW; 05-30-2020 at 10:06 AM.
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05-30-2020, 01:53 PM #10
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But what sources? I would also struggle on over 350g from dry baked potato as my only source especially if I ate only whole food protein sources and a lot of veggies...
But if you have calorie-dense fruit, rice, grains, etc... it's not terribly hard. Especially easier if you add things like honey, etc. It's usually a matter of food choice.Last edited by AdamWW; 05-30-2020 at 02:37 PM.
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05-30-2020, 06:25 PM #12
Good point - struggle is an exaggeration, but I've always found carbs to be the hardest macro to hit. On a normal weekday while bulking my carbs consist of:
Oats, frozen fruit and honey in my breakfast smoothie
Dried fruit in my Greek yoghurt mid-morning
250g cooked rice and a glass of OJ with lunch
An apple mid afternoon
Various carb sources at dinner time (pasta, couscous, polenta, bread, potato, sweet potato, rice etc)
I just find I have to be meticulous with meal planning to get enough carbs without going too high on fats (atm I keep fats to 100g daily). If I just ate what I wanted, I would get enough carbs but would probably go 50+ grams over on fats (and my surplus would blow out to a dirty bulking level).https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=181179323&p=1658333353#post1658333353
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RDL - 9 x 87.5kg (193lb)
Deadlift - 6 x 107.5kg (237lb)
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05-30-2020, 06:36 PM #13
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Interesting. But that’s why it’s nice that in terms of weight progress it’s total calories and protein that actually matter... you can eat as many or as few carbs as you want if you get enough essential fats...
Personally I always end up lower on the fats. 350-400 carbs isn’t hard. More than that and I have to use some dense sources.
But really it sounds like you’re just using very filling foods"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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05-30-2020, 06:48 PM #14
The juice, honey and dried fruit aren't filling - those are my calorie-dense, less satiating carbs - without those I would struggle. Protein can be hard to hit in a cut, but I have a couple of shakes which makes it manageable.
I'm trying to make an effort to eat more carbs and less fats this bulk (I was previously getting nearer 300g carbs and 130g fats) to see if I can get my gains to be a bit leaner, enabling me to bulk for longer.Last edited by RapidFail; 05-30-2020 at 08:57 PM.
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05-31-2020, 05:26 PM #15
Carbs dont build muscle a calorie surplus does
I FIND it HaRd to eAt enough calories. You'd think it would be easy but during corona I'm forced to eat like this person fricken rice which is satiating as heck! It's hard for me to hit 3000 calories just to maintain my bodyweight without indigestion from to much fiber fat etc in the stomach. I believe this person is talking about calories as that should be your main focus not carbs.
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05-31-2020, 08:22 PM #21
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I’m similar in intake levels on more active days (400-450)... for me I naturally fall around 350 just in terms of getting enough for satiety and enjoyment, and if I’m more active then getting 400-450 isn’t a problem at all, it usually just means having an extra snack late at night or topping things with honey or dried fruit.
Lately since I’m trying to still get my appetite back to full speed, I do end up feeling overfull at the end of the day just slightly, but never uncomfortably so.Last edited by AdamWW; 05-31-2020 at 08:31 PM.
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06-02-2020, 04:14 PM #25https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=181179323&p=1658333353#post1658333353
Age: 38
Height: 185cm (6'1")
Weight: 79.3kg (175lb)
Personal best lifts
Bench - 6 x 65kg (143lb), 8 x 62.5kg (138lb)
Bent Over Row - 10 x 70kg (154lb)
Front squat - 5 x 67.5kg (149lb)
Back squat - 1 x 95kg (209lb), 8 x 77.5kg (171lb)
RDL - 9 x 87.5kg (193lb)
Deadlift - 6 x 107.5kg (237lb)
Overhead Press - 6 x 40kg (88lb)
Chin Ups - 7 x bodyweight + 12.5kg (27.5lb), 14 x b.weight
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