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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Why are you too paranoid to state your age? And you wanted to do a bet where we had to exchange names and addresses?
    You aren’t fooling anyone. I could say I’m 15, I could say I’m 43. The answer makes no difference to a troll like yourself. And my age has no bearing on the bet in which you were too much of a pussy to take.
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    Originally Posted by Tears View Post
    You aren’t fooling anyone. I could say I’m 15, I could say I’m 43. The answer makes no difference to a troll like yourself. And my age has no bearing on the bet in which you were too much of a pussy to take.
    What are you talking about? Just give me your age. There is no reason for me to think you'd lie about your age.

    As for the bet, it was because I didn't trust you wouldn't renege on the bet, as there would be no legal recourse for me due to political bets not being legal and no escrow would honor it if we were truthful about what the escrow is for.
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    Don't get arrested if you have a health condition.
    If you have asthma and see a cop in US run..or play dead and don't move.
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    Originally Posted by andy0w View Post
    If you have asthma and see a cop in US run..or play dead and don't move.
    Or you know, don't break the law.
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    Originally Posted by otisthebat View Post
    Or you know, don't break the law.
    You meant to say "allegedly," I'm sure. You know, that whole constitutional right to being innocent until proven guilty.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    *does not apply to SC candidates or pussy grabbing small hands orange hitler putin cockholsters tho
    As far as I know, no one killed either of them for their alleged transgressions.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    You meant to say "allegedly," I'm sure. You know, that whole constitutional right to being innocent until proven guilty.
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    So if he didn't die from being choked or anything like that, what did he die from?
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    So if he didn't die from being choked or anything like that, what did he die from?
    When black people die by gunshot or choking, they brought it on themselves - at least that's what I gathered from the hillbilly shooting thread and this thread.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    When black people die by gunshot or choking, they brought it on themselves - at least that's what I gathered from the hillbilly shooting thread and this thread.
    I'm not sure why you quoted me with that, it makes no sense and doesn't answer what I asked

    He did not die from choking. What did he die from? Heart attack?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    When black people die by gunshot or choking, they brought it on themselves - at least that's what I gathered from the hillbilly shooting thread and this thread.
    You CT shilling now, Tammy?

    A qualified doctor said the man did not die from asphyxiation. Or is that just lies?
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    Originally Posted by deepfat View Post
    You CT shilling now, Tammy?

    A qualified doctor said the man did not die from asphyxiation. Or is that just lies?
    Which qualified doctor would that be?


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    This space launch will single handedly benefit the human race more than some doctors and lawyers burning down a Target.
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    I'm not sure why you quoted me with that, it makes no sense and doesn't answer what I asked

    He did not die from choking. What did he die from? Heart attack?
    It's not rocket science. When you step on someone's throat for 9 minutes, you stress the system and lots of bad things can happen, like organ failure.

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    It's not rocket science. When you step on someone's throat for 9 minutes, you stress the system and lots of bad things can happen, like organ failure.

    This also might be of interest to you:

    His question was clearly rhetorical.
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    Originally Posted by kingmanaverage View Post
    His question was clearly rhetorical.
    When people say I didn't answer their question and ask the same question again, I give them the benefit of not being rhetorical any longer.
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    I'm not sure why you quoted me with that, it makes no sense and doesn't answer what I asked

    He did not die from choking. What did he die from? Heart attack?
    He likely died from something that was heavily contributed by having his airflow blocked off during his arrest.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    It's not rocket science. When you step on someone's throat for 9 minutes, you stress the system and lots of bad things can happen, like organ failure.

    This also might be of interest to you:

    This doesn't seem like a very scientific answer

    I guess my point being, if it comes out that the dude was on drugs and died from a heart attack, while still being majorly fukked up, the cop will probably not get a murder charge
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    You meant to say "allegedly," I'm sure. You know, that whole constitutional right to being innocent until proven guilty.
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    This doesn't seem like a very scientific answer

    I guess my point being, if it comes out that the dude was on drugs and died from a heart attack, while still being majorly fukked up, the cop will probably not get a murder charge
    Watch the video.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    They can always upcharge it to 2nd degree as well. I've heard arguments from legal analysts that it's actually a much stronger case for 2nd degree, which I don't really understand


    Originally Posted by Steemboat View Post
    Premeditation and intent is what separates the second from the third. It really turns on what evidence you can use to prove intent.
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    Charges can be amended at any time if further evidence comes out. For instance, if someone murders their neighbor after getting sick of dealing with their nonsense and all evidence points to a single argument escalating into the guy beating his neighbor to death, the DA would more than likely charge them with second degree murder. They secure a warrant to investigate cell phone records, computer searches, etc. And it turns out the man was googling "best way to dispose of a body" a month before he kills him and there is a text to his best friend saying "I'm going to kill my neighbor the next time he has a party" then the DA can amend the charge to 1st degree murder (completely separate charge) and dismiss the 2nd degree murder charge.

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    1st degree murder is the only murder charge in which evidence shows premeditation. 2nd degree murder you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they intentionally killed someone without it being premeditated. In the example above, that would be like the man having one too many drinks and just fed up with his neighbor, he walks over there, a fight ensues, and he gets on top of his neighbor and beats him to the point that he knows he's killing him and doesn't stop. Third degree murder is essentially manslaughter. Actually depending on the state you're in, 3rd degree murder, 1st degree manslaughter, voluntary manslaughter, etc. can mean the same thing. Here in Illinois, 2nd degree murder used to be called voluntary manslaughter. Here is Minnesota's statute...

    "Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree," Minnesota statue says"


    An example of this would be like the guy getting sick of his neighbor having parties so he launches a rock over the fence into the party and it hits someone in the temple and they die.



    With that, it's going to be hard to prove second degree murder. They have to convince the jury and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the officer knew he was killing George Floyd. This is where the waters get really murky.
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    I'm not watching your liberal video, give me cliffs
    Coroners are not doctors nor are capable of diagnosing the cause of death properly posthumously. Stay blind and keep asking dumb questions, though.
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    Coroners are not doctors nor are capable of diagnosing the cause of death properly posthumously. Stay blind and keep asking dumb questions, though.
    Let's not trust anything I guess
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    It's not rocket science. When you step on someone's throat for 9 minutes, you stress the system and lots of bad things can happen, like organ failure.

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    Or you know, don't break the law.
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    Lots of naive and uninformed opinions flying around. Buuuut it's impossible to give informed opinion without all the evidence and reports which just isn't publicly available

    Coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease means nothing without further detail. Finding chronic disease at autopsy is really not unusual and will often be added as a relevant finding. But a bit speculative occasionally. Cardiomyopathy increases risk of deadly arrhythmia sure but nothing is said about the severity. 'Potential intoxicants' lol this phrase is straight up bizarre - it's like they don't have any tox report yet but are adding it to the list of things that contributed to his death.

    By far the most relevant fact in working out how he died is that he was first alive, then he had a knee pressed on his neck for 8 minutes, then he died. The only thing that would top this is real evidence of an acute condition e.g. massive pulmonary embolism or coronary occlusion or something like that which could explain a fairly quick deterioration. Otherwise, all the money is on the knee
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