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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Both next gen consoles still have impressive hardware specs for being...consoles. I plan to buy a PS5. But I also know that neither console will be able to do what current PC's can. Just something you have to accept as a console player if you're playing for the exclusives.
    I'm undecided between the PS5 vs next Xbox. It'll come down to exclusives if hardware is close.

    And yeah, you can see in the many marketing blurbs we have: both manufacturers are targeting the SSD advantages to people who were gaming on HDDs, i.e, not me from 2010 onward. But it should be a great update for consoles and gaming in general.
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    Looked so Boeing I didn't try it. Infamous with a Spiderman skin. Games like this make a good launch title to but don't hold up to larger libraries.
    Nah Spiderman holds up just fine. Easily one of the best games on the PS4.
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    If by fun you mean stroking cocks because Xbox has more raw power than PS as opposed to enjoying the superior games which in the end is what a console is about then yeah. I mean it's not really my idea of fun but you do you with your Forza.
    "superior games" LMAO, riiiight. The PS5 doesn't even have any games while the Switch has been killin it lately.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Looked so Boeing I didn't try it. Infamous with a Spiderman skin. Games like this make a good launch title to but don't hold up to larger libraries.
    Just about everything Sony ponies praise doesn't seem to hold up. Their games are all about cinematic style presentation and it's just not the kind of thing that I enjoyed once I experienced a few of them. It seems like their games just appeal to a specific taste and you either enjoy that chit or you are going to have a bad time.
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    Nah Spiderman holds up just fine. Easily one of the best games on the PS4.
    Explain how it's more than Infamous with a Spiderman skin.

    To be clear, I see it as a good game, maybe even great, just more of the same from Sucker Punch, which I just don't have an appetite for.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Explain how it's more than Infamous with a Spiderman skin.

    To be clear, I see it as a good game, maybe even great, just more of the same from Sucker Punch, which I just don't have an appetite for.
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    somewhat true. didn't enjoy infamous games as much as Spidey though
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Both next gen consoles still have impressive hardware specs for being...consoles. I plan to buy a PS5. But I also know that neither console will be able to do what current PC's can. Just something you have to accept as a console player if you're playing for the exclusives.
    At your price range yes...

    Most of us are playing on $600-1200 machines. Many a couple years old.

    When the Xbox 1 came out you could build a similar machine for $800. This is specd closer to a 3700x with a 2080 or 2080s.

    Right now that means $1800, but if the next gen GPUs and CPUs release we might be down to $1000-1200. Pretty big difference IMO.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Explain how it's more than Infamous with a Spiderman skin.

    To be clear, I see it as a good game, maybe even great, just more of the same from Sucker Punch, which I just don't have an appetite for.


    Well first of all, Spiderman was made by Insomniac, not Sucker Punch games,. So we're dealing with two different companies here. Insomniac made the Rachet and Clank, Sunset Overdrive and Resistance games .. While Sucker Punch have made infamous.



    My opinion -

    - I am a huge Spiderman fan and it's been a long time since we've had a proper Spiderman game given the love and care which Insomniac put into the game. It's not just a cash-in game of the franchise, it truly is a labor of love. When you play the game you can see just how much love and care Insomniac added to the game. With its stellar production value, decent enough story and portrayal of characters in the Spiderman universe and great combat. It was just an extremely fun game to play and of course, it's not just a great Spiderman game, it was an excellent comic book adaption of a game.

    yes the game has its issues, but it was an excellent first line entry to what is eventually going to be a franchise game for Sony.

    Yes its an open world game with typical open-world activities, but the core gameplay loop, the story, the production values makes it super fun ... and if you're a Spiderman fan, then you're gonna appreciate and enjoy it even more.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    Well first of all, Spiderman was made by Insomniac, not Sucker Punch games,. So we're dealing with two different companies here. Insomniac made the Rachet and Clank, Sunset Overdrive and Resistance games .. While Sucker Punch have made infamous.



    My opinion -

    - I am a huge Spiderman fan and it's been a long time since we've had a proper Spiderman game given the love and care which Insomniac put into the game. It's not just a cash-in game of the franchise, it truly is a labor of love. When you play the game you can see just how much love and care Insomniac added to the game. With its stellar production value, decent enough story and portrayal of characters in the Spiderman universe and great combat. It was just an extremely fun game to play and of course, it's not just a great Spiderman game, it was an excellent comic book adaption of a game.

    yes the game has its issues, but it was an excellent first line entry to what is eventually going to be a franchise game for Sony.

    Yes its an open world game with typical open-world activities, but the core gameplay loop, the story, the production values makes it super fun ... and if you're a Spiderman fan, then you're gonna appreciate and enjoy it even more.
    LMAO, game looks so Sucker Punch I was sure it was and never bothered to pay attention I guess.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Explain how it's more than Infamous with a Spiderman skin.

    To be clear, I see it as a good game, maybe even great, just more of the same from Sucker Punch, which I just don't have an appetite for.
    Idk, never played Infamous. I’ve always thought of it as Arkham with Spiderman but thats fine with me. Its fun as fuk.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    LMAO, game looks so Sucker Punch I was sure it was and never bothered to pay attention I guess.


    Dont blame you tbh, but honestly it's very different from a sucker punch game... Insomniac is definteily more talented and has more nuance when it comes to their games. Worth giving a try when the game gets a discount.


    I havnt played the DLC at all though ... I bought the whole seasons pass but for some reason, just cant be fkked to play through the dlc.









    Also guys ..... Sony has delayed the conference due to the current riot situation. I'm not gonna say anything else, but im sorely disappointed.




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    the riots have really gone too far now wtf
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    Police brutality has really gone too far. Murdering people on camera in the street while smirking because they know nothing is really going to happen to them is a call for action and change, not playstation games.
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    Sounds like they use riots as en excuse for something else.
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    Police brutality has really gone too far. Murdering people on camera in the street while smirking because they know nothing is really going to happen to them is a call for action and change, not playstation games.
    He was obviously joking... Keep the politics to the regular misc, this is for nerds who want to escape and talk about video games.

    This forum is like my one bastion away from the never ending discussion and footage of the riots and all of this insanity, don't ruin that for me.
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    great all we are going to hear now are the protests and riots smh
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    Originally Posted by tekkenbruh View Post
    Imagine actually thinking that Microsoft is anywhere close to Sony in terms of marketing. Sony shows a fuking controller and internet goes into overdrive, meanwhile xbox nerds go "but-but-but tErAfLOpS" as they cry themselves to sleep after that weak-ass presentation stuffed with mediocre at best looking games lmao
    Microsoft is only winning in marketing through technicalities in that they showing and revealing more*, but subjectively I find what they've shown to not evoke any new sense of awe, let alone mild interest. Although someone such as myself might not be looking for a console, that is still an area where MS should have been at least sparking some enthusiasm because their games are still going to be playable on the PC.

    As for the hardware specs, everything is "on paper," as R3L3NTL3SS mentioned earlier, but regardless as to whether or not the Xbox trounces the PS5 in raw performance, (1) third party developers are going to likely follow the same path as this generation by prioritizing parity first, and (2) the games with exclusives in particular are what matter most at the end of the day. The Playstation 2 had the weakest hardware of its generation, but that did not stop it from kicking everyone's ass.

    *With no horse in this race, where I have to give MS credit is in pieces like this one in which they lay out quite a bit, while also establishing an understanding that frame rate is a part of the gameplay.

    On Sony's side, although I find some of their choices questionable, their explanation of the technology was fairly in depth.

    That said, it's rather disjointed and obscure, whereas Microsoft has everything fully laid out in a relatively simple, organized fashion that is arguably going to be far more accessible than the official PS5 blog categories.

    When you get to the meat of both sides' presentations, there is more fluff from Microsoft alongside the pertinent bits, while Sony is relying too much on Cerny's attempts to put into words fairly abstract principles from the standing that they don't tell the average consumer how any of that is going to really matter to them when they're just trying to play games.

    It's still so early on that they can make up with their game reveals, as this was an area that Microsoft fumbled pretty hard with their last slew of announcements that were touted as being "gameplay," when in all actuality they were mostly devoid of anything resembling gameplay.

    Hell, even when you had what were basically pre-rendered cutscenes, we come to find out that Scorn's video was showcased on a 2080ti - not an Xbox. And they are still jerking off Gears of War 5, the least of the lesser of Gears of War games, because they slapped some ray tracing on. Aye, but can you ray trace out the sh*tty characters and Great Value Locusts ya' soft rebooted into the franchise?

    But Sony's biggest advantage is that they took the higher "no f*ck's given" road of embracing the new generation by not committing themselves to supporting outdated hardware for two entire years like Microsoft did.

    Tl;dr - Well, when you're playing good games, it's good game, and if you don't have good games, then you're not really playing good games.

    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Both next gen consoles still have impressive hardware specs for being...consoles. I plan to buy a PS5. But I also know that neither console will be able to do what current PC's can. Just something you have to accept as a console player if you're playing for the exclusives.
    Definitely agreed, and people will get a fantastic deal for what you get, although that might put some console players used to current things into a bit of sticker shock since they're getting so much more than a "suped up" (if you can even call it that) Jaguar chip like the most recent refreshes.

    I don't plan on buying either simply because I don't game enough to justify the independent purchase, whereas I use my computer in general for everything beyond just games. Strictly concerning games, though, I've gotten to a point where I can't see myself getting invested in an ecosystem without modding. I would have dropped far too many games if it weren't for mods, plus I like to dabble with tweaking things myself.

    However if pressed between a game console and a something like a new phone, the console would win hands down in a heartbeat. These things are still quite close to a full blown PC as they have expanded over the years in utility, whereas luxury tech like phones have remained rather stagnant in respect to general use. And anyone who would prioritize their phone for gaming over a dedicated console needs their head checked.

    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    At your price range yes...

    Most of us are playing on $600-1200 machines. Many a couple years old.

    When the Xbox 1 came out you could build a similar machine for $800. This is specd closer to a 3700x with a 2080 or 2080s.

    Right now that means $1800, but if the next gen GPUs and CPUs release we might be down to $1000-1200. Pretty big difference IMO.
    Whatever AMD has cooking up for discrete graphics cards will (hopefully) be powerful enough to open up some real competition again, while still offering a good value if they're able to deliver so much performance with the latest APUs for, let's just say, the cost of only a mid range GPU.

    Unless Nvidia really is drunk off their own hubris and truly believes that f*cking gaming laptops will become "the the most popular gaming console" like Jensen claimed, they might be forced into bringing their prices back to reality. The value proposition of these new consoles blows everything they have out of the water as an all-in-one device, never mind what are already some of the most overpriced pieces of tech for what they're capable of delivering.

    And let us not forget the utter bullsh*t Nvidia has been pulling with their "Founders" edition pricing, which was just a sneaky way to bump up the price of aftermarket cards even more.

    Nvidia might have the upper high end market on lock at the moment, they cannot abandon not only the lower range market, but push the mid-tier buyers towards just saying, "f*ck it," and buying an entire console for the same price as one of their "mid" priced GPUs. The 2070 alone was a slap in the face to a large portion of people, and while I would like to see them come to their senses that the f*cking mining boom is long gone, a side of me can't see them caving on price after the precedent they set.
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    Still hanging on to that, eh?
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