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    Congress may unite on fighting China with $100B tech industry boost

    Posted an article a while back about a think tank study (I think Rand?) that provided a way forward for the US to compete with China via STEM stimulus. Glad to see they are putting it into action but I imagine the $100 billion number will be just the tip of the Iceberg. Can't wait to see what ultimately comes of this (First Man/Woman on Mars).


    Congress may unite on fighting China with $100B tech industry boost
    WASHINGTON ― Congress would pump $100 billion into the National Science Foundation for research into artificial intelligence, quantum computing, advanced communications, robotics and more under a bipartisan proposal led by the Senate’s top Democrat.

    The Endless Frontier Act, led by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and announced Wednesday, would rename the National Science Foundation as the National Science and Technology Foundation and add a technology directorate with “DARPA-like authorities" to oversee research and make contract awards in select technology areas. The $100 billion would be spread over five years.

    A typically divided Congress is uniting in its anger against China: The House on Wednesday was poised to pass sanctions on Chinese officials for human rights abuses against Muslim minorities, while the Senate was considering sanctions to punish China for its crackdown on Hong Kong.

    Schumer’s bill is co-sponsored by Sen. Todd Young, R-Ind. A House version is co-sponsored by two members of the House Armed Services Committee: Reps. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., and Mike Gallagher, R-Wis.

    "[A]t a time of historically low interest rates, we should work to pair federal investments in research and development with public- and private-partner investments in scientific and technical moonshots,” the four lawmakers said in an USA Today op-ed this month.

    “We must also remain mindful that, as our nation recovers, China gains ground. Beijing‘s authoritarian leaders aim to capitalize on this moment with an eye toward outpacing the United States by investing in technological innovations essential to Americans’ future safety and prosperity.”

    According to a bill summary, the proposed technology directorate would fund research in the following technology focus areas:
    • Artificial intelligence and machine learning.
    • High-performance computing, semiconductors and advanced computer hardware.
    • Quantum computing and information systems.
    • Robotics, automation and advanced manufacturing.
    • Natural or anthropogenic disaster prevention.
    • Advanced communications technology.
    • Biotechnology, genomics and synthetic biology.
    • Advanced energy technology.
    • Cybersecurity, data storage and data-management technologies.
    • Materials science, engineering and exploration relevant to the other focus areas.

    Under the bill, an additional $10 billion would be authorized to designate at least 10 regional technology hubs, which in turn would become “global centers for the research, development, and manufacturing of key technologies.”

    When Schumer first floated the idea in November, as a tech “moon shot” against China, he said it had support from people close to President Donald Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., but lacked “their full-throated support.”

    According to a senior aide on Wednesday, the sponsors were working to include legislation in the fiscal 2021 National Defense Authorization Act. The Senate is set to mark up its version of the bill in early June.

    Last year, Schumer and Sen. Tom Cotton, a Republican with hawkish views on China and a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, were able to include the Fentanyl Sanctions Act in the NDAA. The bill is intended to hold foreign countries, like China, responsible for the spread of fentanyl and other synthetic opioids.

    That time, the bill was introduced in April 2019 and included in the Senate version of the NDAA, which passed a month later. It remained in the fiscal 2020 NDAA that Congress passed in mid-December 2019.

    Handicapping the bill is complicated. One the one hand, the bill’s price tag may turn off progressive Democrats already leery of the NDAA at $700 billion as well as fiscally conservative Republicans, said one congressional aide. On the other hand, massive COVID-19 aid packages may be a sign Congress has become less fiscally conservative.

    “The numbers we’re talking about these days are in the range of a trillion or three trillion, so what’s an extra $100 billion,” the aide said.
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    Originally Posted by Sal29 View Post
    So Basically California gets 100 Billion Dollars.
    Newsom better open that state back up.
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    Good news, but it’s sad programs like these aren’t funded more as is. Federal science budget should be triple what it is now, at least.
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    Originally Posted by Sal29 View Post
    So Basically California gets 100 Billion Dollars.
    The bill says that at least 10 regional technology hubs will be designated. So hopefully that is spread out so we don’t have such concentration of it in one or two states.
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    But srs, this was drastically needed. China is technologically catching up at an alarming rate and are determined to moon past us. Even just our basic city infrastructure is stuck in the 20th century when you compare it to big Asian cities with how modern and futuristic they are, almost like we’re falling into third world status
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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    Good news, but it’s sad programs like these aren’t funded more as is. Federal science budget should be triple what it is now, at least.
    If China doesn't hold back on modernization over the next 25-30 years, we will probably see a lot of the cutting edge tech that's been sitting on the shelves finally make it to the market. Kind of exciting when national security dictates the way forward and not the consumer market.

    Militarily, the way we fight war will change dramatically thanks to AI.

    We are in the midst of a great technological revolution on a scale that's never been seen before and I'm glad to be alive for it, for better or for worse.
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    So Basically California gets 100 Billion Dollars.
    You must not be familiar with Texas and it's military/tech R&D history. California will handle the software side. That's about it......
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    INB4 all the new employee slots are filled with Indian/CCP operatives.
    This is a big concern the work visa programs need massive overhauls.
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    This is a big concern the work visa programs need massive overhauls.
    Theres no sugar coating this anymore, this is now on Trump. Over 30 million unemployed and Wall St is still trying to bring in even more visa workers. I know this thread is about GOP senators trying to get Trump to cave again to Wall st, but theres also another group of GOP senators trying to get him to do the exact opposite.
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    hard to compete with a country that slave labours it's workers to build giant hospitals in 10 days, but who were unions and human/worker rights
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    hard to compete with a country that slave labours it's workers to build giant hospitals in 10 days, but who were unions and human/worker rights
    This is true, but I will happily pay a little more if the product(s) is made in the USA, as I am more confident in quality and the knowledge that it is made in the US and creating thousands of jobs. Not to mention China's bullying tactics are not going to be tolerated anymore. I am sure lots of other people feel the same. There are choices of supply chains that will be competitive.
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    This is true, but I will happily pay a little more if the product(s) is made in the USA, as I am more confident in quality and the knowledge that it is made in the US and creating thousands of jobs. Not to mention China's bullying tactics are not going to be tolerated anymore. I am sure lots of other people feel the same. There are choices of supply chains that will be competitive.
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    Newsom better open that state back up.
    Why should he listen to people like you when you were 100% wrong about Sweden?
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    This is true, but I will happily pay a little more if the product(s) is made in the USA, as I am more confident in quality and the knowledge that it is made in the US and creating thousands of jobs. Not to mention China's bullying tactics are not going to be tolerated anymore. I am sure lots of other people feel the same. There are choices of supply chains that will be competitive.
    I think most people would if it went to support local businesses, and would eventually be a net positive in the end. The more wealth that can be distributed to those smaller businesses that will likely create more jobs and be put back into the economy, and the less money that goes to these big corporations who often outsource to other countries, earn massive profits but hoard it in holding companies and other means that don't really do much is a win in my book. Difficult to compete based on outsourcing on the cheap cheap and economies of scale but I think if more people had the same mindset of hey let's support these guys and their products that are made domestically that dynamic could change.



    I find myself buying more Canadian/American products nowadays subconsciously. Not because fuk China (still tho fuk China) but mainly because the it's just better quality and I don't have to end up replacing it so in the long run I'm saving more money. But now more than ever I think I'm just going to remain more conscious of what I am buying.

    Unfortunately the CCP whispered sweet nothings into the ears of my government and now we are cucked by them. For whatever reason we are willing to risk our relationship with America when it comes to agreements but when it comes to China we bend over and take it up the ass no questions asked. China could threaten to nuke us and there wouldn't be chit we can do about it except get on our knees and beg America to intervene. Now I'm not saying agree to everything America demands but lol @ at spurning our greatest ally in favour of bending over to the CCP.

    As if it wasn't happening when real estate was being bought out in major cities and not generating any productivity. And the government doing nothing about it for years so housing became unaffordable and eliminated an entire demographic of buyers. I'm glad Taiwan, HK, Japan, US, etc are waking up and standing up to China who've been cucking the world for years.
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    Conservatives suddenly want to invest in science? I'll take it. Good job conservatives. More of that
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    Donald Trump is busy attacking our own tech companies today. Highly incongruent messaging from the White House.
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    Yep lets go south and stay on the same continent on top of that a more stable Mexico and South America helps a lot regarding the desire for illegal entry
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    I think most people would if it went to support local businesses, and would eventually be a net positive in the end. The more wealth that can be distributed to those smaller businesses that will likely create more jobs and be put back into the economy, and the less money that goes to these big corporations who often outsource to other countries, earn massive profits but hoard it in holding companies and other means that don't really do much is a win in my book. Difficult to compete based on outsourcing on the cheap cheap and economies of scale but I think if more people had the same mindset of hey let's support these guys and their products that are made domestically that dynamic could change.

    I find myself buying more Canadian/American products nowadays subconsciously. Not because fuk China (still tho fuk China) but mainly because the it's just better quality and I don't have to end up replacing it so in the long run I'm saving more money. But now more than ever I think I'm just going to remain more conscious of what I am buying.

    Unfortunately the CCP whispered sweet nothings into the ears of my government and now we are cucked by them. As if it wasn't happening when real estate was being bought out in major cities and not generating any productivity. And the government doing nothing about it for years so housing became unaffordable and eliminated an entire demographic of buyers. I'm glad Taiwan, HK, Japan, US, etc are waking up and standing up to China who've been cucking the world for years.
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    How many genders are there?
    Gender stuff confuses me. I don't know, but more importantly, i don't care. You do you and I'll do me
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    Donald Trump is busy attacking our own tech companies today. Highly incongruent messaging from the White House.
    Lol at acting like Twitter produces or researches anything of any real technological value.
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    Originally Posted by Skezo View Post
    Lol at acting like Twitter produces or researches anything of any real technological value.
    Apparently Trump thinks so. He had to sign an executive order curtailing their power, which also applies to other social media companies. This gives power to China.
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    More money won't create more & better talent, it will create more applicants with worse credentials. I've seen this first hand in my industry.

    What we really need is a culture that likes engineering and wants to get better at it. How to solve that? No clue.

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    Originally Posted by Tha big kahoona View Post
    Gender stuff confuses me. I don't know, but more importantly, i don't care. You do you and I'll do me
    I had no idea you were gender confused brah. You can inbox me if you ever want to talk or swap nudes <3
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