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    This thread is proof that no matter what Trump says/does or how stupid it is there will always be cucks who come in defending and supporting it

    Even some of his biggest supporters have come out and denounced this

    It’s one thing if it’s Joe Biden he’s saying stuff about it where you can actually see a rationale for it

    To do this chit because a cable news host says negative things about you is beyond pathetic

    Not to mention the optics when you have 100k Americans dying of a pandemic..
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...d8d_story.html

    Read: Medical examiner’s report on the 2001 death of Lori Klausutis

    Too bad the medical examiner was an untrustworthy p.o.s

    https://www.yourtango.com/2017308821...rn-dead-murder


    Michael Berkland had lost his medical examiner license in both Missouri and Florida for lying about autopsies. His license was revoked in Missouri in 1996 for providing false information about an autopsy and in 1999 his ME license was suspended in Florida and finally withdraw in 2003.

    Human body parts were also found in a storage unit belonging to Berkland in 2012.
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    are you really that infected by TDS that you can't realize he's joking about taking insulin? Do you really think he isn't aware of how much the media freaked out when he said he was taking HQC? He's just f*cking with you lefites and you take the bait every time.
    This. He has a crappy sense of humor. Makes jokes that people don't realize are jokes, because they're not funny.
    He's a joker. But his jokes suck.
    inb4 he says he was being sarcastic.
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    Originally Posted by farklefamily View Post
    I heard she was a marathoner or something, doesn't mean she didn't have a heart condition, just makes it a little more odd.
    Why?
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...d8d_story.html

    Read: Medical examiner’s report on the 2001 death of Lori Klausutis




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    The official autopsy report stated her death was an "accident" attributed to - "undiagnosed cardiac arrhythmia" and due to this fact her "breathing stopped she fell and hit her head, on an office desk and died," Berkland said.

    Scarborough's press secretary, Miguel Serrano also stated that Klausutis had known prior "health conditions" but didn't provide specifics when questioned. And Scarborough himself told reporters that she had a "complicated medical history" including "stroke and epilepsy."

    Which an immediate family member disputed and denied stating she had no prior "health conditions" since she was a documented marathon runner who had recently run an 8K with a respectable time and she belonged to the Northwest Florida Track Club.

    On August 29th, 2001, two Fort Walton Beach police officers Stephen Sequeira and crime scene expert Dusty Rhodes who witnessed the autopsy of Klausutis, said that her "skull had been fractured," reported NWFDailyNews.

    But this was never taken into account in the final autopsy report
    , and Dr. Berkland stated knowledge of the injury was insignificant and was simply just from the cause of her fall.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Up the meds, buddy


    This is literally all you know, meds and psych wards. Then again, people talk about what they know... Your projection is obvious.




    Originally Posted by Audioslave View Post
    lol
    So you deny facts? That Obombo illegally wiretapped US citizens and political opponents in one of the biggest scandals in American history?
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    Interesting death certificate. Was there video of this event or something? How someone can make the leap that "floppy mitral valve disease" (which I had never heard mitral valve prolapse referred to as until now - maybe it was more common then) caused an arrhythmia that led to someone falling and hitting their head that caused a subdural hematoma? It's still debatable now if mitral valve prolapse has any increased incidence of causing arrhythmia... and as far as I know there is no way for a coroner to definitively claim an arrhythmia occurred. And how the **** can you fall on anything less than cement and sustain that kind of head injury in a young person is beyond me.
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    Never even heard about this before.
    Looking at the time frame, this was around the time the Gary Condit/Chandra Levy thing was dominating the headlines.
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    Originally Posted by FatBallz View Post
    Libel and slander would not apply because Scarborough is a public figure.
    Not true. The bar's higher, but falsely accusing someone of murder would probably meet that hurdle.
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    Girl dies in Joe's office

    Coroner and cops say no sign of trauma to body

    Months go by with no final report

    Report finally comes out. Died from head trauma. Cracked skull.

    People ask questions. Medical examiner can't explain why he said no sign of trauma before.

    Murdering Joe quits Congress.
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    Originally Posted by FatBallz View Post
    I don't know. I heard something about it a couple years ago but never looked into it. What is the supposed motive for the alleged murder?

    It's interesting that Michael Moore promoted the idea in the past (naturally when Scarborough was a Republican).
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    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    Not true. The bar's higher, but falsely accusing someone of murder would probably meet that hurdle.
    He didn't accuse though. He said it looks suspicious and should be investigated. Definitely doesn't meet the requirements.
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
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    I like how you're spinning this how the girl's family is grieving over this and it's Trump's fault.

    I guess you're very upset to know then that Joe himself joked and laughed, LAUGHED, about her dying with that Imus shock jock a few years back, then?

    Trump pushing questionable CTs is so awful but laughing about her dying from Joe Scarborough is not worth mentioning?



    What has Trump said that's even approaching this? That Imus would say this chit and Joe laughs about it with no rebuttal? Yet Trump is so fuking bad all of sudden? Piss off.

    Btw, what did Trump say exactly? People here are acting as if he called him out for murder and should be sued for libel. Others are saying all Trump said is that it looked suspect and should be further looked into.

    Which is it?

    Because if it's the later, then F-off. It does look suspect (although it was already looked into and nothing out of the ordinary was found), but it WAS a weird case, regardless of what Joe did or didn't do. Joe had to resign from congress over this, so it's not like it wasn't something that was a big nothing.
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    Originally Posted by Redfish225 View Post
    He’s the president, my point is he shouldn’t be saying idiotic things every time he’s in front of a microphone. You’d defend him if he raped you though.
    A little much, don't you think Neck Tat? I swear leftists use the most extreme language and examples to attempting making flimsy points.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    I like how you're spinning this how the girl's family is grieving over this and it's Trump's fault.

    I guess you're very upset to know then that Joe himself joked and laughed, LAUGHED, about her dying with that Imus shock jock a few years back, then?

    Trump pushing questionable CTs is so awful but laughing about her dying from Joe Scarborough is not worth mentioning?

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    What has Trump said that's even approaching this? That Imus would say this chit and Joe laughs about it with no rebuttal? Yet Trump is so fuking bad all of sudden? Piss off.

    Btw, what did Trump say exactly? People here are acting as if he called him out for murder and should be sued for libel. Others are saying all Trump said is that it looked suspect and should be further looked into.

    Which is it?

    Because if it's the later, then F-off. It does look suspect (although it was already looked into and nothing out of the ordinary was found), but it WAS a weird case, regardless of what Joe did or didn't do. Joe had to resign from congress over this, so it's not like it wasn't something that was a big nothing.
    ITT, another Trumper doesn't see the President of the United States as being above other job positions in the world.

    Who the **** cares what he said about some other dude; Trump is dragging an innocent family through a bunch of bull****.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    I like how you're spinning this how the girl's family is grieving over this and it's Trump's fault.

    I guess you're very upset to know then that Joe himself joked and laughed, LAUGHED, about her dying with that Imus shock jock a few years back, then?

    Trump pushing questionable CTs is so awful but laughing about her dying from Joe Scarborough is not worth mentioning?



    What has Trump said that's even approaching this? That Imus would say this chit and Joe laughs about it with no rebuttal? Yet Trump is so fuking bad all of sudden? Piss off.

    Btw, what did Trump say exactly? People here are acting as if he called him out for murder and should be sued for libel. Others are saying all Trump said is that it looked suspect and should be further looked into.

    Which is it?

    Because if it's the later, then F-off. It does look suspect (although it was already looked into and nothing out of the ordinary was found), but it WAS a weird case, regardless of what Joe did or didn't do. Joe had to resign from congress over this, so it's not like it wasn't something that was a big nothing.
    Imus made the joke. He wasn’t joking along with him. An uncomfortable laugh is a lot easier to move on than to defend something and turn it into a 5 minute segment.
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    Originally Posted by CTSV648HP View Post
    Girl dies in Joe's office

    Coroner and cops say no sign of trauma to body

    Months go by with no final report

    Report finally comes out. Died from head trauma. Cracked skull.

    People ask questions. Medical examiner can't explain why he said no sign of trauma before.

    Murdering Joe quits Congress.
    The medical examiner in question has a track record for lying about autopsies. He had his medical license revoked in multiple states including Florida in 2003. Two years after this murder. I believe Joe was having an affair with the intern when this happened. But that could just be a rumor. Either way, she died from a head contusion that was bad enough it fractured her skull...oh and it was in Joes office.

    Mika and Joe both strike me as an odd couple. Joe has always had a short temper and mika strikes me as a rockefeller type journalist...where she thinks everyone is beneath her. I wouldnt put it past Joe to have had a temper-tantrum that resulted in him throwing something, or striking his intern in the head with something resulting in her death. Then it was covered up like everything else in the cesspool we call D.C.
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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    The medical examiner in question has a track record for lying about autopsies. He had his medical license revoked in multiple states including Florida in 2003. Two years after this murder. I believe Joe was having an affair with the intern when this happened. But that could just be a rumor. Either way, she died from a head contusion that was bad enough it fractured her skull...oh and it was in Joes office.

    Mika and Joe both strike me as an odd couple. Joe has always had a short temper and mika strikes me as a rockefeller type journalist...where she thinks everyone is beneath her. I wouldnt put it past Joe to have had a temper-tantrum that resulted in him throwing something, or striking his intern in the head with something resulting in her death. Then it was covered up like everything else in the cesspool we call D.C.
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    Facts over feelingz
    At least he won't ever have to serve on a jury. Just let the judge let him speak for 3 minutes... "You're dismissed; please see the bailiff."
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    So you deny facts? That Obombo illegally wiretapped US citizens and political opponents in one of the biggest scandals in American history?
    Neat.
    I just thought it was hilarious when you said that "Trump never hints at something, unless he knows damn well he is right." Obviously not true. However, people on this forum will defend him no matter what even when proven wrong. It must have been a week ago when people were claiming that hydroxychloroquine is effective, or that even if you take it, it's not like it would be any worse for you than to not take it. Turns out the facts were in the polar opposite of Trump and everyone who defended him. Not only did the largest study show a significant increase in death (~35%) but also >2-fold increase of serious heart arrhythmias.

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    Originally Posted by Audioslave View Post
    I just thought it was hilarious when you said that "Trump never hints at something, unless he knows damn well he is right." Obviously not true. However, people on this forum will defend him no matter what even when proven wrong. It must have been a week ago when people were claiming that hydroxychloroquine is effective, or that even if you take it, it's not like it would be any worse for you than to not take it. Turns out the facts were in the polar opposite of Trump and everyone who defended him. Not only did the largest study show a significant increase in death (~35%) but also >2-fold increase of serious heart arrhythmias.

    HQZ has literally been FDA approves for DECADES, and the VA gives out 48,000 doses of this drug PER DAY, it is an extremely safe, and well trusted drug... But only NOW is the deep state trying to destroy a proven drug, because it helps patients with Covid, but is a generic drug, and BigPharm/deepstate can't make massive profits from it...

    I laugh at the dishonest "media" and the "tests" big pharma is doing to try and tarnish a drug thats been used for over half a century with no major issues... By using shady tactics, such as not using the full cocktail on covid patients, or using it ONLY when a person is at the brink of death, they are purposefully trashing a safe drug, because they don't want the world to learn that we already have cures for many things, but the profits aren't there, so they push their new/patented drugs instead...

    Phuk big pharma, phuk the deep state who are hiding cures from the public.
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    HQZ has literally been FDA approves for DECADES, and the VA gives out 48,000 doses of this drug PER DAY, it is an extremely safe, and well trusted drug... But only NOW is the deep state trying to destroy a proven drug, because it helps patients with Covid, but is a generic drug, and BigPharm/deepstate can't make massive profits from it...

    I laugh at the dishonest "media" and the "tests" big pharma is doing to try and tarnish a drug thats been used for over half a century with no major issues... By using shady tactics, such as not using the full cocktail on covid patients, or using it ONLY when a person is at the brink of death, they are purposefully trashing a safe drug, because they don't want the world to learn that we already have cures for many things, but the profits aren't there, so they push their new/patented drugs instead...

    Phuk big pharma, phuk the deep state who are hiding cures from the public.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    ITT, another Trumper doesn't see the President of the United States as being above other job positions in the world.

    Who the **** cares what he said about some other dude; Trump is dragging an innocent family through a bunch of bull****.
    Is he? I don't use Twitter. Some people are saying he's calling Joe a murderer, something I've said is ludicrous, others are saying he said it was suspect and should be investigated -- which I agreed it was suspect but stated it was already investigated once at the time.

    Very different things and if it's the later, that he just attacked Joe by bringing this back up and saying it was mysterious -- kind of a big whatever because it certainly was and it's was something Joe himself laughed about with Imus.

    As for the President being above people, I don't fault you for that but I don't care as much about that. I care a whole hell of a lot more about the substance that this nonsense. Bush was very 'above' this kind of thing, generally took the high ground and had a sense of humor about the media -- and he made the worst foreign policy blunder at the least of my lifetime that directly led to hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of dead people, chaos and trillions of dollars wasted. So, I could fuking care less in this case how above other jobs he was. Obama continued that mistake and made big ones of his own. He was also 'above' Trump's tweets and I also don't give a fuk. With Trump, I'm a lot more concerned about him appointing hawkish people around him (many of which are now gone) than silly tweets. I'd rather people move on from this political opera and talk more about things that actually matter, to be honest.

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    Imus made the joke. He wasn’t joking along with him. An uncomfortable laugh is a lot easier to move on than to defend something and turn it into a 5 minute segment.
    You know, it's entirely possible that Don Imus, Joe Scarborough AND Donald Trump were all out of line. I won't tell you how to interpret that video segment but I saw Joe goofing along with Imus and not telling him to back off and to chill to respect the girl's family. I didn't see him uncomfortable in the least and I heard him joke along with him ("whatcha gunna do, lol?")
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    Remember when Trump said he was being spied on by Obama admin?

    He was called conspirotard etc. but obviously he has info that you and I don’t have. Trump turned out to be correct. Do the math. Use pattern recognition.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Is he? I don't use Twitter. Some people are saying he's calling Joe a murderer, something I've said is ludicrous, others are saying he said it was suspect and should be investigated -- which I agreed it was suspect but stated it was already investigated once at the time.

    Very different things and if it's the later, that he just attacked Joe by bringing this back up and saying it was mysterious -- kind of a big whatever because it certainly was and it's was something Joe himself laughed about with Imus.

    As for the President being above people, I don't fault you for that but I don't care as much about that. I care a whole hell of a lot more about the substance that this nonsense. Bush was very 'above' this kind of thing, generally took the high ground and had a sense of humor about the media -- and he made the worst foreign policy blunder at the least of my lifetime that directly led to hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of dead people, chaos and trillions of dollars wasted. So, I could fuking care less in this case how above other jobs he was. Obama continued that mistake and made big ones of his own. He was also 'above' Trump's tweets and I also don't give a fuk. With Trump, I'm a lot more concerned about him appointing hawkish people around him (many of which are now gone) than silly tweets. I'd rather people move on from this political opera and talk more about things that actually matter, to be honest.
    Jesus, son, just go Google the Tweets and take two seconds to get your take.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Mental illness is no joke.



    Precisely, which is why you project 90% of the time about your mental illnesses and talk about the orderlies who need to boost your meds every time you have an "episode". So glad that those heroes are able to take care of you and all your issues.
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Remember when Trump said he was being spied on by Obama admin?

    He was called conspirotard etc. but obviously he has info that you and I don’t have. Trump turned out to be correct. Do the math. Use pattern recognition.
    Why don’t you use pattern recognition to see trump is usually full of **** when he’s told 15,000 untruthful or misleading statements since taking office? Why only point out the handful of times he’s been right?

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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Why don’t you use pattern recognition to see trump is usually full of **** when he’s told 15,000 untruthful or misleading statements since taking office? Why only point out the handful of times he’s been right?

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    It would depend on who is doing the “fact checking” of those 15’000 statements. You most likely would not be able to debate any one of those statements intelligently. Try it. I’m interested.

    When it comes to Obama spying, Trump was right, as you admitted above. These are facts, no need to check further.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    He was taking some control of the media cycle. It forced media to cover it, and divided the coverage of 100k deaths. The same with his last minute declaration today that he was going to have an executive order for social media.
    Reminds me of when he told the media he was going to make some CT announcement live and then just paraded veterans out on stage for an hour to praise him while live coverage was running.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Why don’t you use pattern recognition to see trump is usually full of **** when he’s told 15,000 untruthful or misleading statements since taking office? Why only point out the handful of times he’s been right?

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    Most of the so called lies are either regarding trivial matters or him expressing his opinion on a matter (when the media feels he has the wrong opinion on a matter).

    I remember many in the media called him a liar about Obama spying. How the hell would they know if it was a lie? The media are a bunch of liars themselves.
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