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    Yes, it is and I'm not the one trying to "win" an argument here. I stated my opinion and my arguments to your points. You ignore them, move the goalposts, and attempt to argue things I never said or suggested /shrug
    Not what happened, but okay *shrug*

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    Not what happened, but okay *shrug*

    If you feel I made some point without defending it, by all means, post that
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    Perhaps the media won't show you those scenarios?
    Bingo we have a winner.
    The media won't show the white dudes getting the snot beat out of them because it doesn't fit their race baiting narrative.
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    On Thursday, police officers fired tear gas and rubber bullets in an attempt to disperse a crowd outside the 3rd Precinct, the epicentre of the unrest.

    But the cordon around the police station was eventually breached by protesters, who set fire to it and two other nearby buildings, as officers withdrew.

    The Minneapolis Police Department said in a statement that the 3rd Precinct had been evacuated shortly after 22:00 "in the interest of the safety of our personnel".

    Later, the city government tweeted that it had heard "unconfirmed reports that gas lines to the 3rd Precinct have been cut and other explosives materials are in the building". It urged people near the building to retreat for their own safety.
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    Andrea Jenkins, vice president of Minneapolis City Council, says George Floyd and Officer Chauvin worked at restaurant near Third Precinct.

    "They were coworkers for a very long time."
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Bingo we have a winner.
    The media won't show the white dudes getting the snot beat out of them because it doesn't fit their race baiting narrative.
    Fox And Oan are media too.
    Is it all media?
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Fox And Oan are media too.
    Is it all media?
    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I know who I think and it is always the same dynamic and characters. Never do I see a Chinese guy or an Indian guy or a Middle Eastern guy, or a Jewish guy having this happen to them ; and you can't tell me that they are all perfect upstanding citizens who never engage in any type of wrongdoing.
    Maybe it was because this guy was 6 ft 7 and the cops were scared, but there is an obvious pattern since I have been following incidents like this.
    Let's remove the word race and try and figure out what else the cops are focusing in on. Is it tall guys, dark guys, fake 20 dollar bill guys, we can figure it out.
    It is 2020 and we can do way better than this.
    Which one explains Daniel Shaver?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Which one explains Daniel Shaver?
    Tony Timpa is like the almost exact same scenario - in fact he was in cuffs from the store security guards when the cops got there and they knelt on his back for 13 minutes before he died.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Which one explains Daniel Shaver?
    I don't know who he is.
    Why don't you post some supporting, additional information in the body of your post and we can discuss.
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I don't know who he is.

    Why don't you post some supporting, additional information in the body of your post and we can discuss.
    It seems you don't pay as much attention to 'his stuff as you indicated. The two videos below overlap by a few seconds and cut off as the rifle is fired several times point blank executing the crying and fully compliant suspect who had been lying on his face on the hallways motionless as commanded until cops told him to get up and crawl but crawling is a threat so bang bang bang bang bang







    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Corbi when you hear about a story like this before seeing it, who do you think is involved? I know who I think and it is, it is always the same dynamic and characters. Never do I see a Chinese guy or an Indian guy or a Middle Eastern guy, or a Jewish guy having this happen to them ; and you can't tell me that they are all perfect upstanding citizens who never engage in any type of wrongdoing.
    Maybe it was because this guy was 6 ft 7 and the cops were scared, but there is an obvious pattern since I have been following incidents like this.
    Let's remove the word race and try and figure out what else the cops are focusing in on. Is it tall guys, dark guys, fake 20 dollar bill guys, we can figure it out.
    It is 2020 and we can do way better than this.
    Is the above video who you know is always involved?

    How about this one?






    I see one thing glaringly consistent here.
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    Apperantly the majority of the rioters are from out of town, are they funded?

    What do the folks who live there think about about outsiders coming in and destroying thier area? The mayor ain’t doing **** and Trump is correct after I saw the mayor try to act all tough and talk about being strong, I see his is a weakling.
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    "It seems you don't pay as much attention to 'his stuff as you indicated"

    I saw both of those videos when they happened but did not have the actual names memorized as you do/did.
    How do you explain the indefensible?
    Those that enjoy killing and enjoy it, will find a way.
    Those that think that all people are "faking" it, will disregard cries for help until they are proven wrong.




    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    It seems you don't pay as much attention to 'his stuff as you indicated. The two videos below overlap by a few seconds and cut off as the rifle is fired several times point blank executing the crying and fully compliant suspect who had been lying on his face on the hallways motionless as commanded until cops told him to get up and crawl but crawling is a threat so bang bang bang bang bang









    Is the above video who you know is always involved?

    How about this one?











    I see one thing glaringly consistent here.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    "It seems you don't pay as much attention to 'his stuff as you indicated"

    I saw both of those videos when they happened but did not have the actual names memorized as you do/did.
    How do you explain the indefensible?
    Those that enjoy killing and enjoy it, will find a way.
    Those that think that all people are "faking" it, will disregard cries for help until they are proven wrong.
    That officer, who murdered Shaver in January, wasn't fired until late March, and at trial was found not guilty. But he didn't fit the narrative you previously explained is always the case so it wasn't pushed as hard, now you don't even remember his name.

    Oh, and you know what else? Shaver's killer was reinstated by the police department two years later, for 42 days, so he could be reimbursed for medical expenses related to PTSD (from committing the killing) and get $2,500 per month pension so he technically wasn't even fired now but 'medically retired' with pension
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    What’s the point even having a First Amendment if it can't protect the government from its citizens?
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    Two things:

    a. Those thugs with badges murdered him. Like I have been saying for years. Cops do not work for the Citizens. They are braindead order-followers. Cops work for criminal politicians on both sides who are addicted to passing illegal, immoral, and unethical laws. Americans are only 5% of the world population. Yet 25% of global prisoners are americans. Gubmint is the root cause. Always.

    b. Race. Thousands of innocent Americans of all races have been murdered by cops. But this one was turned into a racial issue to keep the sheep divided. Sad. I don't have any problem when Citizens seek justice and they go after the real criminals - cops and politicians. But when private properties and businesses are destroyed, they quickly lose credibility and support. Those rioters are just as useless as cops.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    That officer, who murdered Shaver in January, wasn't fired until late March, and at trial was found not guilty. But he didn't fit the narrative you previously explained is always the case so it wasn't pushed as hard, now you don't even remember his name.

    Oh, and you know what else? Shaver's killer was reinstated by the police department two years later, for 42 days, so he could be reimbursed for medical expenses related to PTSD (from committing the killing) and get $2,500 per month pension so he technically wasn't even fired now but 'medically retired' with pension
    "didn't fit the narrative you previously explained is always the case"

    I never said "always the case"..................... what i said was " it is always the same dynamic and characters. Never do I see a Chinese guy or an Indian guy or a Middle Eastern guy, or a Jewish guy having this happen to them"
    1. Jewish
    2. Asians
    3. Indians.
    4. blonde women too

    The frequency with which we see 1 group does not mean that the other does not happen; maybe the video cams were off and they are just a statistic.
    Consider this, if the bystanders did not upload the video would we know about this?
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    "didn't fit the narrative you previously explained is always the case"

    I never said "always the case"..................... what i said was " it is always the same dynamic and characters."
    What characters is it "always"?

    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Corbi when you hear about a story like this before seeing it, who do you think is involved? I know who I think and it is, it is always the same dynamic and characters.

    Let's remove the word race and try and figure out what else the cops are focusing in on. Is it tall guys, dark guys, fake 20 dollar bill guys, we can figure it out.
    It is 2020 and we can do way better than this.
    So after reviewing the two cases I posted above, which of those is it?
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    I don't know how anyone can support the riots in any shape way or form. Actions by some rioters are no less reprehensible than the actions of the officers in question. Anyone that thinks that destroying the property of innocent people and hurting innocent people is in anyway effective, is flat out wrong. All it will do is deepen the racial rift and sow more seeds of distrust.


    f*cking retarded.


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    What characters is it "always"?

    So after reviewing the two cases I posted above, which of those is it?
    FFS dude. I can't tell if you're trolling or stupid.
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    What’s the point even having a First Amendment if it can't protect the government from its citizens?
    So you are advocating rioting, and looting and attacking of innocent victims? Where is the tipping point when the government should step in and stop it? Do they wait until the rioters attack your home?

    It fukking disgust me that anyone would actually try & explain how these thugs and people simply taking advantage of the times are right to do so.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Fox And Oan are media too.
    Is it all media?
    Did I single any networks out? Exactly what is your point here?
    And I don't even know what the hell OAN is?
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    I don't know how anyone can support the riots in any shape way or form. Actions by some rioters are no less reprehensible than the actions of the officers in question. Anyone that thinks that destroying the property of innocent people and hurting innocent people is in anyway effective, is flat out wrong. All it will do is deepen the racial rift and sow more seeds of distrust.


    f*cking retarded.


    FFS dude. I can't tell if you're trolling or stupid.


    Trying burn down a police building with police inside is attempted murder on police officers, the cop murdered someone and the rioters tried to murder them, who knows who has possibly died from the fires?

    The cop has been arrested, now go arrest those looters and it ain’t going to be pretty so some are going to get hurt and possibly shot in process, but that’s the job now that it gotten to this level.
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    The cop has been arrested
    As of like an hour ago
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    "didn't fit the narrative you previously explained is always the case"

    I never said "always the case"..................... what i said was " it is always the same dynamic and characters. Never do I see a Chinese guy or an Indian guy or a Middle Eastern guy, or a Jewish guy having this happen to them"
    1. Jewish
    2. Asians
    3. Indians.
    4. blonde women too

    The frequency with which we see 1 group does not mean that the other does not happen; maybe the video cams were off and they are just a statistic.
    Consider this, if the bystanders did not upload the video would we know about this?
    This happened in my old hometown but yep it never happens
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    So you are advocating rioting, and looting and attacking of innocent victims? Where is the tipping point when the government should step in and stop it? Do they wait until the rioters attack your home?

    It fukking disgust me that anyone would actually try & explain how these thugs and people simply taking advantage of the times are right to do so.
    My post wasn’t about that at all, I found it humorous President Trump was being blocked on twitter.

    In earlier posts I did explain my views on what went on the first night of protests. I don’t advocate for nor have I been personally responsible for the destruction of private property; government property is a different story.
    I thought she’d be there holding daisies.
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    This event is the reason for BLM. Unfortunately the movement got taken over by extremists and the message got skewed. A separate view from the other side of the street showed there were 3 officers holding him down. No reason for this at all.
    I cannot wrap my head around that officers thought process.


    What on earth was the point of putting his knee on the restrained mans neck? Officer needs to be arrested.
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    Originally Posted by Mercworx View Post
    I cannot wrap my head around that officers thought process.


    What on earth was the point of putting his knee on the restrained mans neck? Officer needs to be arrested.
    He was finally arrested about an hour ago
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    [QUOTE=7Seconds;1606169371 I don’t advocate for nor have I been personally responsible for the destruction of private property; government property is a different story.[/QUOTE]

    Why is government property different? You realize those buildings are paid via our tax dollars so it ends up costing everyone double when these buildings are repaired / rebuilt.
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    Once again I am disgusted with the media turning this into a black vs white issue. They are also using the phrase "gentle giant" when describing Floyd, now i'm not saying he wasn't but none of us nor them know the guy and he could have been a complete raging @sshole for all we know. Make no mistake with my words and in no way do I say this guy deserved to die, what that cop did was beyond disgusting and deserves a long prison sentence. But anyone advocating rioting, looting, attacking cops, etc is beyond reasoning with. How the hell does stealing a tv, pair of shoes, etc do anything to right the wrong that was done to this guy?
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    Why is government property different? You realize those buildings are paid via our tax dollars so it ends up costing everyone double when these buildings are repaired / rebuilt.
    Because as I said earlier, in my opinion, disruptive civil disorder often has a better chance to force change than protesting peacefully. The thing is that police officers already see anti-cop-brutality protestors in an negative light, peaceful or not. There's no level of law-abidingness that will make them go, "gee, these people chanting that they’re racists among us who should lose their jobs make some good points." In reality what is more likely to force their hand is unacceptable government property damage and disruption of their operations to the point that the city decides to accede to some demand in order to calm things down - like say arresting the four officers. Yeah it's not an ideal, polite situation for anyone involved but it's the reality on the ground.
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