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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Once again I am disgusted with the media turning this into a black vs white issue. They are also using the phrase "gentle giant" when describing Floyd, now i'm not saying he wasn't but none of us nor them know the guy and he could have been a complete raging @sshole for all we know. Make no mistake with my words and in no way do I say this guy deserved to die, what that cop did was beyond disgusting and deserves a long prison sentence. But anyone advocating rioting, looting, attacking cops, etc is beyond reasoning with. How the hell does stealing a tv, pair of shoes, etc do anything to right the wrong that was done to this guy?
    How does destroying small business and setting them on fire help? How does attacking small business owners trying to put out the flames to their buildings help. Condoning mob violence in any fashion is disturbing.



    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Because as I said earlier, in my opinion, disruptive civil disorder often has a better chance to force change than protesting peacefully. The thing is that police officers already see anti-cop-brutality protestors in an negative light, peaceful or not. There's no level of law-abidingness that will make them go, "gee, these people chanting that they’re racists among us who should lose our jobs make some good points." In reality what is more likely to force their hand is unacceptable government property damage and disruption of their operations to the point that the city decides to accede to some demand in order to calm things down - like say arresting the four officers. Yeah it's not an ideal, polite situation for anyone involved but it's the reality on the ground.
    Ya... destroying peoples lives who had nothing to do with the violence is not ideal. If you think this is going to help, it won't. All they'll do is make an example of the officers to appease the mob and the racial rift will deepen as what many people will see is the shameless destruction of the innocent.


    Not ideal...
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    How does destroying small business and setting them on fire help? How does attacking small business owners trying to put out the flames to their buildings help. Condoning mob violence in any fashion is disturbing.



    Ya... destroying peoples lives who had nothing to do with the violence is not ideal. If you think this is going to help, it won't. All they'll do is make an example of the officers to appease the mob and the racial rift will deepen.


    Not ideal... what in the actual f*ck.
    When you say destroying lives are you talking about the other police officers involved on the video?
    I thought she’d be there holding daisies.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Did I single any networks out? Exactly what is your point here?
    And I don't even know what the hell OAN is?
    you said, "The media won't show the white dudes getting the snot beat out of them because it doesn't fit their race baiting narrative."
    So, i was simply listing 2 networks that are conservative(Fox+ OAN) and could give differing perspectives on the cases like this.
    Most people blame networks for a slant so why not use 2 conservative networks to cover the same topics and see how it looks.

    No one said it never happens to others,that is disengenuous, just that it happens to some folks more than others.
    Now with video we can count and see.
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    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
    The easiest way to tell when an argument has no merit is when the protagonist mixes in some personal insults.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    When you say destroying lives are you talking about the other police officers involved on the video?
    I'm talking about the business owners who are getting their livelihoods ransacked by rioters. I'm talking about individuals being beaten by rioters as they protect their property.

    I could give 2 sh*ts about the other officers involved. They're depraved monsters who sat there and held down a man while their peer killed him. I hope they see unwanted butt f*ckings in prison for years to come. They get zero sympathy from me.
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    I'm talking about the business owners who are getting their livelihoods ransacked. I'm talking about individuals being beaten as they protect their property.

    I could give 2 sh*ts about the other officers involved. They're depraved monsters who sat there and held down a man while their peer killed him. I hope they see unwanted butt f*ckings in prison for years to come. They get zero sympathy from me.
    I have been pretty clear I am not advocating for the destruction of personal property. And when I originally made the points above it was the first night and the only destruction I was aware of being reported on was the police station.
    I thought she’d be there holding daisies.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    When you say destroying lives are you talking about the other police officers involved on the video?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis..._life_savings/

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    I'm sure he's okay with this if it means more media coverage though
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis..._life_savings/

    And many more just like it

    I'm sure he's okay with this if it means more media coverage though
    If you're going to run your mouth about me, you can stop being a p*ssy about it. Otherwise I have no f*cking clue what you're talking about. Let me guess, some attempt at calling me racist and doing it while you have me on ignore? Low life phaggot. You really have no clue.

    And doing it while he agrees with me.




    Curious if 7seconds was trying to make the same implications.
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post


    Curious if 7seconds was trying to make the same implications.
    I honestly don’t know what you think he was implying. I didn’t think his post was referring to you.

    As for why I asked the question I thought I was very clear that my support for any protestors ends when the destruction of private property happens (I did specify government property in the post you quoted as well as in my earlier posts.) So I thought maybe you were referencing the other officers since I stated all involved should be arrested.
    I thought she’d be there holding daisies.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    I honestly don’t know what you think he was implying. I didn’t think his post was referring to you.

    As for why I asked the question I thought I was very clear that my support for any protestors ends when the destruction of private property happens (I did specify government property in the post you quoted as well as in my earlier posts.) So I thought maybe you were referencing the other officers since I stated all involved should be arrested.
    It's amazing how many people legitimately proclaim that looting and burning down people's businesses, and attacking firefighters when they show up, is helpful. BRB buildings can be rebuilt let them burn, it's okay to throw rocks at the firefighters trying to put the fire out because an EMT guy didn't do enough when he showed up on George Floyd's scene. Literally what people are saying. Mind blown
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    I honestly don’t know what you think he was implying. I didn’t think his post was referring to you.

    As for why I asked the question I thought I was very clear that my support for any protestors ends when the destruction of private property happens (I did specify government property in the post you quoted as well as in my earlier posts.) So I thought maybe you were referencing the other officers since I stated all involved should be arrested.
    Digging the Hum reference in your sig! That's all.
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    Digging the Hum reference in your sig! That's all.
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    If you're going to run your mouth about me, you can stop being a p*ssy about it. Otherwise I have no f*cking clue what you're talking about. Let me guess, some attempt at calling me racist and doing it while you have me on ignore? Low life phaggot. You really have no clue.

    And doing it while he agrees with me.




    Curious if 7seconds was trying to make the same implications.
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    Is there anyone on this site you haven't snarled at? Seems like every one of your posts is a character attack on somebody.
    Out of curiosity, since I unfortunately see his posts despite ignore when he gets quoted...who else has him on ignore that he is clearly referring to?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Out of curiosity, since I unfortunately see his posts despite ignore when he gets quoted...who else has him on ignore that he is clearly referring to?
    He was responding to below.

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis..._life_savings/

    And many more just like it

    I'm sure he's okay with this if it means more media coverage though
    I thought she’d be there holding daisies.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    He was responding to below.
    Weird considering I haven't said anything to his posts that I cannot see lol

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    Black young big kid beats up old white guy in nursing home.

    I ain’t bringing race into it, just saying, now howes it feel?

    Maybe that old man owned slaves?? Is that what that punk was thinking?????

    Again, it’s just a perspective, don’t look too deep, naw no other white folks suffer..........

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    You want to riot, burn buildings, loot and try to do God knows what to vehicles then you deserve to get ran over. How the fuk is that driver supposed to know what the intention of those people is/are? Will they attempt to drag them out of the vehicle, destroy their vehicle, etc? Fuk you as I would do the same and mow your ass over.
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    Black young big kid beats up old white guy in nursing home.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    While I don’t condone rioting, I think riots can be helpful in changing policy. Any government should fear the people.

    If outright revolution and overthrow is conditionally justifiable in the pursuit of liberty, I don’t see why a much smaller version wouldn’t.

    And if there is rioting, a focus on government property instead of random private property is far more justifiable, which from what I have seen seems to be what is going on.
    Rioting is not necessary to produce change. In fact, typically the actual money behind the organization of the rioting has a different agenda than the actual rioter (aka; useless idiot)
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    The reason why 7seconds is incorrect about riots making real change is because any civil person don't believe in destroying others property and even those civil folks know that government property is THEIR property (remember, we all pay for that).

    These destroyers will not work to help rebuild anything, only civil people will, and civil people will not do stuff like burn down buildings and loot business.

    It's basically a big party for these rioters, just an opportunity to disrupt.

    Real change comes from within, these folks don't have the heart or dignity for that, they are enjoying it, deep down.

    7seconds, here is 1966, the riots didn't do much, and sit-ins are NOT riots, sit-ins made a difference, not riots. Kinda like "not wearing masks are sit-ins, these days". It's actually funny as hell watching these chumps with their masks hanging halfway down their face while they yell and holler, it's almost comical other than businesses being destroyed, these scum are still worried about mouth coverings, HA, HA! I guess the governors will be proud of that, riot without spreading the virus, PHUCKING SAD!!!!!!!

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    Rioting is not the answer imo but there is a track record going back to the founding of the country that civil unrest has been the only way massive change happens. I'm not saying that it is right or would even work but the thoughts come to mind when frustration builds.

    Since this section is more mature I'd like to get your thoughts on the Killer Mike press conference:

    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/video/689453
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    Is there anyone on this site you haven't snarled at? Seems like every one of your posts is a character attack on somebody.
    LOL stepping into my drama eh? If you haven't noticed, my "snarls" have been directed at the same person. The last disagreement you and I had was more than cordial and I was certainly polite to you, (and have always been polite to you) so I don't know WHY the f*ck you care if and how I vocalize my opinion of other people.

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    Out of curiosity, since I unfortunately see his posts despite ignore when he gets quoted...who else has him on ignore that he is clearly referring to?
    LOL you can see everything I say when people quote me.... which is often enough.

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Weird considering I haven't said anything to his posts that I cannot see lol
    My post was quoted (which you saw), and you commented on it.
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    170 businesses supposedly destroyed, tonight on the news I saw a restaurant, bank and a post office on fire. A liquor store and a dollar tree being wiped out by looters, protesters trying to go after the White House...yea good luck with that one you fukking moronic twits.
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    The whole country has the back of Floyd.

    Wars may solve some problems, but you can’t expect the whole country to have the backs of people who destroy businesses.

    The groups doing want a world like the Terminator movies, with rubble everywhere.

    If 7seconds thinks the police will just change now, he wrong, the ain’t gonna forget this, they don’t want to stand down, they will wait until things calm down and let out some frustrations on more folks like Floyd, not all, but some will.

    Just another reason why the logic of riots don’t change a thing.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    The whole country has the back of Floyd.

    Wars may solve some problems, but you can’t expect the whole country to have the backs of people who destroy businesses.

    The groups doing want a world like the Terminator movies, with rubble everywhere.

    If 7seconds thinks the police will just change now, he wrong, the ain’t gonna forget this, they don’t want to stand down, they will wait until things calm down and let out some frustrations on more folks like Floyd, not all, but some will.

    Just another reason why the logic of riots don’t change a thing.
    I am not sure what you keep on going about but as I have said on multiple occasions this has gone well past what I was speaking to on that first night. It’s frustrating how people are trying to turn this into a polarizing race debate. Deflecting from the real issue that is qualified immunity, government officals lacking any accountability. Corrupt people in charge have and will abuse their power against all races. There are plenty of recorded examples. This isn't only "black v x" it's the top v bottom.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    I am not sure what you keep on going about but as I have said on multiple occasions this has gone well past what I was speaking to on that first night. It’s frustrating how people are trying to turn this into a polarizing race debate. Deflecting from the real issue that is qualified immunity, government officals lacking any accountability. Corrupt people in charge have and will abuse their power against all races. There are plenty of recorded examples. This isn't only "black v x" it's the top v bottom.
    I agree that qualified immunity is the issue at hand, but not the only issue. This is very much a race issue... at least to many it is.

    "Dude I gotta tell you the George Floyd incident in Minnesota hurt. I cried when I saw that video. It broke me down," Obama's statement said, quoting an email from a friend. "The 'knee on the neck' is a metaphor for how the system so cavalierly holds black folks down, ignoring the cries for help. People don't care. Truly tragic."

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