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    The real reason Trump is against Jeff Sessions

    Information from Ryan Girdusky, who is a very reliable source of information and a very good follow if you use Twitter.

    SCOOP: The real reason for the tremendous push against Sessions coming from the White House has little to do with Russia and more to do with Jared Kushner's bail reform.

    Kushner was one of the lead architects of bail reform and Sessions constantly pushed back against him. Sources inside the WH told me Kushner hated Sessions more than any other person inside Trump's WH.

    Using the Russia probe, Kushner used to remind Trump of Sessions' recusal during heated moments over bail reform to ensure he would never take his side.

    Sessions warned Trump (correctly) that the First Step Act would lead to dangerous criminals being freed. That's exactly what happened time and time again.

    It was Kushner that lead the charge against Sessions for his run for the Senate. But sources said the Russia investigation was just a facade for the fact that he didn't want Sessions in the Senate to push back on his Second Term agenda.

    Sessions was often used as a distraction for Trump to cover up multiple people's screw ups in the WH. Often times Gen. Kelly would bring up Sessions when Nielsen was in trouble. Now Russiagate is being used for Trump to endorse the pro-amnesty Tommy Tuberville.

    Just to be clear, I'm speaking of the First Step Act.

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    I also want to do a little fact check about the Russia investigations being Sessions fault.

    "Sessions didn't need to recuse himself." False. Sessions had to recuse himself. It was required by law. He was part of the campaign, he was the first Senator to endorse Trump, he spoke at campaign rallies, ect... He had an obvious conflict of interest and he had to recuse.

    "Yeah but Sessions' recusing triggered the Mueller probe." False. Trump firing Comey and then doing the disastrous media blitz (especially the Lester Holt interview where he said he fired Comey because he was looking into Russia) triggered the Mueller chit.

    This doesn't even matter because Sessions is clearly the MAGA and nationalist choice and that's what is really important but just clearing up those common misconceptions among the MAGApedes.
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    Let's see what Trump does with the immigration ban extension. Apparently he's getting a lot of pressure on it. Even Tucker covered it tonight:

    https://twitter.com/USTechWorkers/st...45822575120388
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    Trump is planning to do an amnesty if he wins a second term.

    Sessions would actively oppose it.

    As much as I dislike kushner, he’s a part of the problem. The main problem is Trump. Kushner hasn’t been outwitting him the last 3 years. Trump wants to do all the horrible things Kushner wants to do. He’s just concerned about how he could do it and convince his idiot base that he’s not a turncoat
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    Originally Posted by LatinoWarrior2 View Post
    Trump is planning to do an amnesty if he wins a second term.
    lmao, bullcrap
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    lmao, bullcrap
    I agree with him. A Reagan style amnesty for business and he'll assure us this is the last one. At the very least a DACA amnesty.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Let's see what Trump does with the immigration ban extension. Apparently he's getting a lot of pressure on it. Even Tucker covered it tonight:

    https://twitter.com/USTechWorkers/st...45822575120388
    Nothing will happen. If he was going to do it, he would have already.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    I agree with him. A Reagan style amnesty for business and he'll assure us this is the last one. At the very least a DACA amnesty.
    There is no way he does a DACA amnesty, especially if he gets the House back. No way.
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    Honestly don’t care if he pushes for amnesty or any other liberation policy his second term. Rather Trump push those policies than creepy joe Biden
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    If he had disclosed to the President his intent to recuse himself from overseeing the Russia collusion investigation, he would never have been put up for confirmation. By recusing himself (something Rosenstein strongly encouraged), the oversight of the investigation was left in the hands of those who have most to hide in the scandal, Rosenstein included. This enabled the DOJ/FBI to slow walk documents requested and subpoenaed by the House intel committee, and now we find the opportunity to have full discovery slipped away because the dems took over.

    Good job, Mr. Sessions, you've let the American people and your President down. Perhaps you should change your political affiliation to (D).
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    Originally Posted by puzzycrookz View Post
    Honestly don’t care if he pushes for amnesty or any other liberation policy his second term. Rather Trump push those policies than creepy joe Biden
    The policies are what matter, not the person. Whether it's Trump pushing garbage policies like amnesty or Biden doesn't really matter. It's probably worse if Trump does it because it provides cover to all the RINOs and liberal Republicans to pass it.
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    lmao, bullcrap
    You’re naive. He’s going to do an amnesty if he wins a second term. Put your money on it.
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    Originally Posted by PITA21 View Post
    If he had disclosed to the President his intent to recuse himself from overseeing the Russia collusion investigation, he would never have been put up for confirmation. By recusing himself (something Rosenstein strongly encouraged), the oversight of the investigation was left in the hands of those who have most to hide in the scandal, Rosenstein included. This enabled the DOJ/FBI to slow walk documents requested and subpoenaed by the House intel committee, and now we find the opportunity to have full discovery slipped away because the dems took over.

    Good job, Mr. Sessions, you've let the American people and your President down. Perhaps you should change your political affiliation to (D).
    I doubt Trump or Sessions even thought about this possibility when the nomination stuff was happening. LOL at calling Sessions a D when he is one of, if not the most, Conservative and nationalist Senator. The level of stupidity from MAGApedes is laughable at times.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    I also want to do a little fact check about the Russia investigations being Sessions fault.

    "Sessions didn't need to recuse himself." False. Sessions had to recuse himself. It was required by law. He was part of the campaign, he was the first Senator to endorse Trump, he spoke at campaign rallies, ect... He had an obvious conflict of interest and he had to recuse.

    "Yeah but Sessions' recusing triggered the Mueller probe." False. Trump firing Comey and then doing the disastrous media blitz (especially the Lester Holt interview where he said he fired Comey because he was looking into Russia) triggered the Mueller chit.

    This doesn't even matter because Sessions is clearly the MAGA and nationalist choice and that's what is really important but just clearing up those common misconceptions among the MAGApedes.
    Sad to see you legitimizing the Russian collusion hoax with this BS.

    Now for another fact check: Sessions and Trump were besties until the day Sessions recused himself instead of fighting back against the hoax. That was in fact the day that everything changed between Trump and Sessions. It was probably the biggest single shock to Trump of anything during his presidency.
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    Sad to see you legitimizing the Russian collusion hoax with this BS.

    Now for another fact check: Sessions and Trump were besties until the day Sessions recused himself instead of fighting back against the hoax. That was in fact the day that everything changed between Trump and Sessions. It was probably the biggest single shock to Trump of anything during his presidency.
    I'm not legitimatizing it, but it wasn't Sessions' fault. Every Republican, even Mitch, said there was no need for a special prosecutor until Trump fired Comey and did the dumb Lester Holt interview. Then everything changed. Trump made that mistake.

    Also, Sessions advised Trump to fire Comey on day 1 which would have prevented all of it.
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    Originally Posted by LatinoWarrior2 View Post
    You’re naive. He’s going to do an amnesty if he wins a second term. Put your money on it.

    Not gonna happen. We can bet if he wins. That would be a satanic move to his voters....and to the country really.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    The policies are what matter, not the person. Whether it's Trump pushing garbage policies like amnesty or Biden doesn't really matter. It's probably worse if Trump does it because it provides cover to all the RINOs and liberal Republicans to pass it.
    WRONG. Only nerds care about politics. IDGAF about policies I want to see trump own the libs. Many republicans also don't give a **** about politics. The less a government does the better. Trump could do nothing on immigration and just sit here tweeting all day and owning the libs and I would still vote for him. I want my government to do ZERO.

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    Sessions recusal launched Russiagate. That is a fact. Without the special counsel circus, we dont waste 2.5 years on corrupt lawyers and FBI field officers planting "gotcha" questions and setting up perjury traps in hopes they'll get an obstruction charge against Trump.

    Sessions was the worst AG Ive ever seen. He was more concerned about going after pot farms than he was about pursuing justice. Gross negligence would have been an improvement over his gross incompetence.
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    What's with Kushner and bail reform. I assume he's a NYC limousine liberal but aren't these people supposed to be playing conservatives?
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    I also want to do a little fact check about the Russia investigations being Sessions fault.

    "Sessions didn't need to recuse himself." False. Sessions had to recuse himself. It was required by law. He was part of the campaign, he was the first Senator to endorse Trump, he spoke at campaign rallies, ect... He had an obvious conflict of interest and he had to recuse.

    "Yeah but Sessions' recusing triggered the Mueller probe." False. Trump firing Comey and then doing the disastrous media blitz (especially the Lester Holt interview where he said he fired Comey because he was looking into Russia) triggered the Mueller chit.

    This doesn't even matter because Sessions is clearly the MAGA and nationalist choice and that's what is really important but just clearing up those common misconceptions among the MAGApedes.
    1) Sessions didn't need to recuse. Look who his legal advisors were that told him he should recuse-- swamp monsters directly involved in spygate. Of course they would convince him he had to recuse... He was a threat! keep in mind his replacement, Rosenstein, should have been forced to recuse. He signed multiple FISA warrants against Trump's team. He penned the letter that was used to justify Comey's firing. These made him a fact witness, and with regard to the bogus "obstruction" charge, it made him a possible coconspirator. The fact that Rosenstein was allowed to lead the investigation, and was protected by the media and the left, shows his true colors.

    2) Firing Comey was perfectly within Trump's rights as president. He can fire anyone he chooses. Comey told Trump multiple times that he wasn't personally under investigation, but stories in the media were tying Trump to Russia. Trump knew comey would be questioned under oath, and would be forced to admit that trump wasn't a target or in any way involved... which is exactly what Comey did. Of course he would tell lester Holt that "russia was on his mind when he fired comey." Comey wasn't doing anything to set the narrative straight... because Comey was lying to Trump the whole time. We have since had multiple investigations into Comey by the IG, where he was found be for corrupt, insubordinate, didn't follow any procedures, etc.

    Look at the scope memo for Mueller's investigation... was is "investigate if the firing of Comey was an act of obstruction?" No. McCabe said, under oath, a few days after firing that the firing of Comey did nothing to stop any investigations. The scope memos were lines from the dossier that had already been investigated by the FBI and found to be fake. The entire investigation was a witch hunt. There is no other explanation.
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    Trump is against Sessions because he cares more about himself (and having someone to blame for being investigated) than he does about the values of conservatives in this country. Period, end of story.

    Case in point:

    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    1) Sessions didn't need to recuse. Look who his legal advisors were that told him he should recuse-- swamp monsters directly involved in spygate. Of course they would convince him he had to recuse... He was a threat! keep in mind his replacement, Rosenstein, should have been forced to recuse. He signed multiple FISA warrants against Trump's team. He penned the letter that was used to justify Comey's firing. These made him a fact witness, and with regard to the bogus "obstruction" charge, it made him a possible coconspirator. The fact that Rosenstein was allowed to lead the investigation, and was protected by the media and the left, shows his true colors.

    2) Firing Comey was perfectly within Trump's rights as president. He can fire anyone he chooses. Comey told Trump multiple times that he wasn't personally under investigation, but stories in the media were tying Trump to Russia. Trump knew comey would be questioned under oath, and would be forced to admit that trump wasn't a target or in any way involved... which is exactly what Comey did. Of course he would tell lester Holt that "russia was on his mind when he fired comey." Comey wasn't doing anything to set the narrative straight... because Comey was lying to Trump the whole time. We have since had multiple investigations into Comey by the IG, where he was found be for corrupt, insubordinate, didn't follow any procedures, etc.

    Look at the scope memo for Mueller's investigation... was is "investigate if the firing of Comey was an act of obstruction?" No. McCabe said, under oath, a few days after firing that the firing of Comey did nothing to stop any investigations. The scope memos were lines from the dossier that had already been investigated by the FBI and found to be fake. The entire investigation was a witch hunt. There is no other explanation.
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    Bottom line, the voters in Alabama need to rebuff Trump on this and show him who's actually in charge and vote Sessions.
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    trump wants loyalty. Like a mobster. Doesnt matter sessions was the first to endorse him and support him. Cross him once or do something he doesn't want... you're done!

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    Originally Posted by Steemboat View Post
    Trump is against Sessions because he cares more about himself (and having someone to blame for being investigated) than he does about the values of conservatives in this country. Period, end of story.

    Case in point:



    Who appointed Rod Rosenstein?
    Trump let sessions pick his deputy, which is standard practice. Sessions picked Rosenstein, likely at the recommendation of some swamp creatures.

    Unless you think Trump personally interviewed and hand selected thousands of people across multiple government agencies while also finding time to be the president?
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    lets not even notice the fact that trump is supposedly being manipulated like a halfwit
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    Its hilarious to watch you normies take every single fake "feud" Trump has and run with MSM conspiracy theories and narratives...

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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    I also want to do a little fact check about the Russia investigations being Sessions fault.

    "Sessions didn't need to recuse himself." False. Sessions had to recuse himself. It was required by law. He was part of the campaign, he was the first Senator to endorse Trump, he spoke at campaign rallies, ect... He had an obvious conflict of interest and he had to recuse.

    "Yeah but Sessions' recusing triggered the Mueller probe." False. Trump firing Comey and then doing the disastrous media blitz (especially the Lester Holt interview where he said he fired Comey because he was looking into Russia) triggered the Mueller chit.

    This doesn't even matter because Sessions is clearly the MAGA and nationalist choice and that's what is really important but just clearing up those common misconceptions among the MAGApedes.
    Sessions recused himself from an illegitimate investigation with zero basis.

    The President can fire Comey for any reason.

    Rosenstein bringing in a Special Counsel, again, had no basis since there was no Russian collusion and they entire the perception was based off disinformation from the intelligence community.

    Funny how everything bad that happens to Trump is his fault, but every lie, leak and setup by the FBI and CIA doesn't factor in.
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    Using the Russia probe, Kushner used to remind Trump of Sessions' recusal during heated moments over bail reform to ensure he would never take his side.

    Sessions was often used as a distraction for Trump to cover up multiple people's screw ups in the WH. Often times Gen. Kelly would bring up Sessions when Nielsen was in trouble.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Sessions recused himself from an illegitimate investigation with zero basis.

    The President can fire Comey for any reason.

    Rosenstein bringing in a Special Counsel, again, had no basis since there was no Russian collusion and they entire the perception was based off disinformation from the intelligence community.

    Funny how everything bad that happens to Trump is his fault, but every lie, leak and setup by the FBI and CIA doesn't factor in.
    That. Exactly.

    The claim that Sessions 'had to recuse himself' is also a claim that the 'investigation' was a legitimate one, which of course it was not - it was a political warfare hoax and it was Sessions job to call it out for being that and oppose it. Both OP and lunatic Ann Coulter are making that false BS argument that 'Sessions had to recuse himself'. So basically they've aligned themselves solidly in the camp of the Russian collusion hoaxers.
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