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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    You're giving a guy credit for LOSING fights to guys with a good name but you won't give Conor credit for going up a weight class and humiliating the sitting champion?

    lmfao what

    Let's recap

    Eddie Alvarez sucked
    Chad Mendes was a gatekeeper
    Losing multiple fights to people with big names > winning a UFC world title
    IF Conor went to lightweight, and beat an established lightweight Champion, like Khabib is now, then I would give Conor all the credit in the world.

    The challenges a fighter faces throughout his career is what defines their P4P legacy. Was beating Alvarez a challenge for Conor? No, he was spoon fed an easy fight. Alvarez would probably be around 8-10 on the current lightweight rankings. ALOT of lightweights would beat Eddie...
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    Originally Posted by rgnx View Post
    IF Conor went to lightweight, and beat an established lightweight Champion, like Khabib is now, then I would give Conor all the credit in the world.

    The challenges a fighter faces throughout his career is what defines their P4P legacy. Was beating Alvarez a challenge for Conor? No, he was spoon fed an easy fight. Alvarez would probably be around 8-10 on the current lightweight rankings. ALOT of lightweights would beat Eddie...
    Why does it matter where Eddie would be ranked in 2020? He went to ONE to cash out and retire. Conor fought him nearly 4 years ago.

    You're saying all this YEARS AFTER they fought, ffs. I've already told you, the bookies had it near even. A lot of people in the media picked Eddie. A lot of fighters picked Eddie. A lot of fans picked Eddie.

    Eddie was on a streak of beating Melendez, Pettis, and RDA. He destroyed RDA at a time when RDA was #5 in the p4p rankings and was a complete animal. He went toe to toe with Justin Gaethje, and won.

    Imagine having to explain to an "MMA fan" that Eddie Alvarez was an extremely good fighter.

    And the point is, Conor didn't just "beat him". He put Eddie in the matrix. It was one of the most impressive performances ever. It didn't look like a challenge because Conor is THAT good.
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Why does it matter where Eddie would be ranked in 2020? He went to ONE to cash out and retire. Conor fought him nearly 4 years ago.

    You're saying all this YEARS AFTER they fought, ffs. I've already told you, the bookies had it near even. A lot of people in the media picked Eddie. A lot of fighters picked Eddie. A lot of fans picked Eddie.

    Eddie was on a streak of beating Melendez, Pettis, and RDA. He destroyed RDA at a time when RDA was #5 in the p4p rankings and was a complete animal. He went toe to toe with Justin Gaethje, and won.

    Imagine having to explain to an "MMA fan" that Eddie Alvarez was an extremely good fighter.

    And the point is, Conor didn't just "beat him". He put Eddie in the matrix. It was one of the most impressive performances ever. It didn't look like a challenge because Conor is THAT good.
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    seems like there is a new Greatest of all Time every 5 years in MMA
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    You're giving a guy credit for LOSING fights to guys with a good name but you won't give Conor credit for going up a weight class and humiliating the sitting champion?

    lmfao what

    Let's recap

    Eddie Alvarez sucked
    Chad Mendes was a gatekeeper
    Losing multiple fights to people with big names > winning a UFC world title
    Its the sign of someone butthurt and just casual to discredit a fighters wins by discrediting his opponents. Esp when at the time they where considered great. Its an insult to those fighters. Cause they can't acknowledge the guy they hate is actually good.
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    Eddie was one of the best fighters in the world for 8 years. He was damn near unstoppable in Bellator and great against high level competition in the UFC. That's a huge notch on Conor's belt.

    Also, there was a lot of skill involved in McGregor's knockout against Aldo.

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    seems like there is a new Greatest of all Time every 5 years in MMA
    Right? They throw that around too loosely. Every time DC commentates a PPV now, he continuously uses "once in a generation talent" for anyone that wins a main event. It's ridiculous. I know his job is to be the hype man, but c'mon.
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    Originally Posted by Gizzyhardcore View Post
    Its the sign of someone butthurt and just casual to discredit a fighters wins by discrediting his opponents. Esp when at the time they where considered great. Its an insult to those fighters. Cause they can't acknowledge the guy they hate is actually good.
    This doesn't apply at all. I'm a big Conor fan, as I mentioned many times. He's one of my favorite fighters to watch, so I definitely don't hate him.

    With that said, Eddie is not that great, regardless of his fight with Conor.
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