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    Anyone jog post weights?

    Hey guys anyone here jog post weights? How have you found it to be?

    How’s recovery?
    Gains?
    Etc

    Im thinking of doing two miles post weights. If my fitbit is correct I burn approx 500 calories while lifting and 200-300 on my jog.
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    I've tried when practical to follow the old advice of keeping resistance training, endurance training (including jogging) and flexibility/stretching all apart from each other as much as possible
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    I've tried when practical to follow the old advice of keeping resistance training, endurance training (including jogging) and flexibility/stretching all apart from each other as much as possible

    Any evidence of keeping it separate? Generally curious as that seems to basically crossfit. And they don’t seem to be hampered by it.
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    The old advice (pre CrossFit) isn't that you can't mix things up but rather that you get even better results if you keep them separate.

    There are explanations of why it's better and also there's a body of experience and prior precidence on that but actual specific scientific evidence... hmmmm I don't know.

    The reasons given for this view is the adaptions are conflicting e.g. the mechanism for muscle fibre growth and endurance adaptions conflict (see MToR https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTOR and AMPK https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMP-...protein_kinase) and the ideal conditions for each are also conflicting (lower blood glucose can help some endurance adaptions but inhibit muscle growth which is promoted by higher insulin which occurs at the higher blood glucose levels)

    This might just be a load of overcomplicated pseudo science but the people who need endurance and strength, take soldiers for example seem to find separation works best. The run before breakfast and heavy work (sand filled ammo case shuttles or something) in the afternoon, is tried and tested approach over many years and millions of people.

    Would mention stretching too (long duration stretching, not just limbering up) but this post is already too long sorry.
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    I did this quite a bit last spring/summer so I'll share my experience. I hit a pretty nice 5k pr in the process (under 22 mins) You have to be prepared for The runs you do post training to suck. You'll be slow, and tire quickly... Also if you're going to jog outside in the hot sun, be prepared to feel great for 5-10 mins and then just hit a brick wall on some days and need to walk.

    If you're fishing for progression on your lower body lifts while you employ this strategy you'll likely be out of luck unless you're in the noob gains phase... Due to said conflicting messages your sending which oldfarttom mentioned.

    Now... Those are all cons... There are some pros.. So.. If you're already in a deficit and progression on your lifts isn't going to happen regardless and you're a junkie like me for progress at something other than scale weight moving down.... As you lose weight you'll get faster at running. I tended to shave 30 seconds off my 5k with every 5 pounds lost (roughly) going from 200 down to 165-170 ish.

    Anyway... Having said all that.. Do it if you like it. But don't do it with the hopes that like the extra volume of work will trigger more gains at running or lifting. The opposite will probably happen.

    I should mention that I left a gap of several hours and at least one good meal in between
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    Originally Posted by paycheck View Post
    Hey guys anyone here jog post weights? How have you found it to be?

    How’s recovery?
    Gains?
    Etc

    Im thinking of doing two miles post weights. If my fitbit is correct I burn approx 500 calories while lifting and 200-300 on my jog.
    Try it out for a while and see how it goes - that's the best way to find out what works for you. Nothing horrible is going to happen even if you find out jogging doesn't work well right after weights for you.

    I often do light cardio after working out, but anything I consider to be somewhat grueling I'd do at a different time in the day or on an off day.
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    Originally Posted by paycheck View Post
    Hey guys anyone here jog post weights? How have you found it to be?

    How’s recovery?
    Gains?
    Etc

    Im thinking of doing two miles post weights. If my fitbit is correct I burn approx 500 calories while lifting and 200-300 on my jog.
    I never found that two miles done a few hours after weights affected anything I was doing in the weight-room in a bad way. I did find that eating pasta an hour before the run had me running farther and faster.

    As you're probably aware, it's long runs that are supposed to negatively impact weight-training.

    Also, they say that running isn't the best conditioning for weight-training. They say modalities that resemble weight-training are better. For example, pedaling a bicycle is supposed to resemble squatting and is better than running for weightlifters.
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    Cardio always after, I do three miles a day, recovery is fine just had to build up to it, post leg day I normally can’t push as hard

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    I do jogging and rear delts on off days. I’m doing full body 3x a week
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