Anyone else thing skilled trades are overrated?

[vwdsg2468]

It's been hyped up the last few years especially. You hear about guys making 100 or even 200 thousand dollars a year. Sure there might be some. But for every 1 of those guys theres 99 others making 15 to 20 per hour.
It just seems so overrated. Anybody else think this?

[BeginnerGainz]

Lol no tradie is making that, unless they have their own company telling other tradies what to do and still, it varies a lot on location.

[Destor]

First year apprentices here start at around $25/hr, that's basically right out of high school. Journeymen are making $40+ per hour. And there's plenty of growth potential above Journeymen if you have the aptitude


Source: I'm in a construction trailer at this very moment and work on the management side, mostly looking at costs. Legit everyone on my current project is making six figures

[wasp9166]

100k checking in

not now obviously , but it's there

[AlwaysFocus]

Lol no tradie is making that, unless they have their own company telling other tradies what to do and still, it varies a lot on location.

wrong

[78novacaine]

Lol no tradie is making that, unless they have their own company telling other tradies what to do and still, it varies a lot on location.

False.

In 3 months when I get my breakout raise my pay package goes up to ~$50/hr. That's $35/hr on the check with the other $15 going to benefits ([zero out of pocket health insurance for myself, my wife if she didn't have insurance through her work, and any kids I have eventually], a company funded 401k type program, as well as a pretty decent pension). And this is just base pay for any journeyman in our local, you can negotiate upwards from there and foreman/superintendents/draftsmen/project managers can make a LOT more. There are unions in other parts of the country with higher COL (NYC, LA, San Fran, etc) making upwards of $50/hr on the check plus similar benefits.

But it's ok, keep coping cubecels.

[Brozef]

The term "overrated" is so subjective it shouldn't mean much to anyone. Opinions are like ass holes and so on...

It's annoying how so many people hold their opinions in such high regard and speak of them as if they are practically facts.

[BeginnerGainz]

Keep coping guys.

Hey, if you are good boys, your boss might let you out from your cubicle half an hour early on Friday.

Don’t work in a cubicle. Also, don’t work most Fridays. Never work Mondays or weekends either.

Also never gonna roll out of bed before 6 am, or work more than 8 hrs a day.

[wasp9166]

$55 in the check,nyc

and i'm worth more just watching the competition lol

[vwdsg2468]

I'm in Utah which I think is a non union state. So the answer is to become a union thug taking companies out of business?

[wasp9166]

I'm in Utah which I think is a non union state. So the answer is to become a union thug taking companies out of business?

[78novacaine]

$55 in the check,nyc

and i'm worth more just watching the competition lol

There ya go Opie. That's ~$115k/year without a minute of OT.

[wasp9166]

There ya go Opie. That's ~$115k/year without a minute of OT.

i'm 54, 40 or less from here on out ,i get asked all the time , they look like i stole their lunch

[Destor]

I'm in Utah which I think is a non union state. So the answer is to become a union thug taking companies out of business?

It's not just a union thing. My current company is open shop on the mechanical side and union for electrical and scaffolding, and our pipefitters make bank


There are differences in pay between sectors within the industry though, I think heavy industrial and O&G tend to pay more but don't have much experience in residential or commercial construction

[vwdsg2468]

There ya go Opie. That's ~$115k/year without a minute of OT.

Which is effectively how much per year in commie NYC?

[BeginnerGainz]

So, a part timer is calling out people who actually work for a living. Good cope.

Nope, I deliver beer for a living. Work in the same county I live, paid a salary. Get up at 6, leave at 7, done between 11-2.

I will never envy the sheer amount of hours y’all have to work.

[wasp9166]

why you mad op? you got nothing better to do in lockdown ?


live your life , don't fkn worry about what you don't wana do

[Ratfish]

[vwdsg2468]

How is construction management? Anybody have experience in that? Do you need a degree?

[vwdsg2468]

why you mad op? you got nothing better to do in lockdown ?


live your life , don't fkn worry about what you don't wana do

Not mad just genuinely curious

[Johnez]

Lol, accurate. Needs a tobacco products in there tho.

[Ratfish]

Lol, accurate. Needs a tobacco products in there tho.

this one is good too

[HayZues Christi]

No "skilled" tradesman are making less than 35/hr.

[Battlefury]

[Polaris]

this one is good too

Its missing the -



and

[Destor]

How is construction management? Anybody have experience in that? Do you need a degree?

Construction Managers pretty much always have trade backgrounds since they need to drive the actual construction work

Project Managers can range from tradies with PMP to engineering grads depending on what the company does


There's a huge list of possibilities under the Construction Management umbrella. I personally work in Project Controls within O&G -- my job is specifically focused on cost and schedule. You can go Safety, QA / QC (ranging from document control to inspectors to management), Project Controls, Construction or Project Management, etc etc

[Johnez]

Lmao!
Guy who trained me in reefers had a cigarette roller in his truck, couldn't fukkin believe it.

[vwdsg2468]

Construction Managers pretty much always have trade backgrounds since they need to drive the actual construction work

Project Managers can range from tradies with PMP to engineering grads depending on what the company does


There's a huge list of possibilities under the Construction Management umbrella. I personally work in Project Controls within O&G -- my job is specifically focused on cost and schedule. You can go Safety, QA / QC (ranging from document control to inspectors to management), Project Controls, Construction or Project Management, etc etc

Cool. How do you get into quality control?

[Destor]

Cool. How do you get into quality control?

Depends what you want to do. My background is mechanical, so our inspectors (big $$$) are often people with welding backgrounds because they are more familiar with metallurgy etc. Quality Managers often have eng degrees because there's a lot of overlap between engineering and quality, but I've met managers without engineering degrees. Inspectors in mechanical have certifications and levels that they go through and that are extremely challenging, involving written exams and practical tests (from what I understand)

Things like document control can be done by people with relatively little experience but also don't pay as much. Then you move up towards positions like Turnover Coordinators and such that require more technical knowledge


It's a big topic brah and there's a massive range of possibilities. Even within Quality, you can go the NDE route and spend your time shooting welds or doing other testing / examination, and that can pay huge as well. You can even specialize in coatings n chit

[batmanman]

Don't confuse tradies with "laborers"

I'm a tradie and make well over $100k every year without working stupid amounts of hours per week

Most linemen make around $150k