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    Why didn't Strange do this to Thanos? Just loop and loop til Thanos agrees or become insane from the time loop?
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    Probably wouldn't work, countered with the reality stone perhaps.

    Strange and thanos had an epic fight on titan tho.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Why didn't Strange do this to Thanos? Just loop and loop til Thanos agrees or become insane from the time loop?
    Dr. Strange went through all the realities. I'm certain he did.

    But if you want the real answer; it'd be boring to watch him do that a second time.
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    Dr. Strange went through all the realities. I'm certain he did.

    But if you want the real answer; it'd be boring to watch him do that a second time.
    LOL this is actually the most accurate answer srs.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Why didn't Strange do this to Thanos? Just loop and loop til Thanos agrees or become insane from the time loop?
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    He secretly hated Iron Man

    All of the scenarios he just picked the one where they beat Thanos but Iron Man dies
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    Thanos is probably more than smart enough to grab him and torture him.
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    LOL this is actually the most accurate answer srs.
    Lul yep

    It's kind of interesting too when Thanos talks about them not even using their most powerful weapon against him
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    Thanos would probably sit through it longer than Strange.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Why didn't Strange do this to Thanos? Just loop and loop til Thanos agrees or become insane from the time loop?
    Dormammu is outside of time, Thanos is not, so each time would be the first time for Thanos.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    Dormammu is outside of time, Thanos is not, so each time would be the first time for Thanos.
    Dr. Strange pulled Wong out of the time reversal spell when he restored Hong Kong so he could fight with him while time was reversing.

    Surely he can pull Thanos out of the time loop so he'd just be standing there watching time loop around him.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Why didn't Strange do this to Thanos? Just loop and loop til Thanos agrees or become insane from the time loop?

    Same reason he didn't use a small portal to cut off Thanos' arm like he did with the fat alien in the beginning.


    Because plot. And Strange is also retarded.
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    I have found the actual answer. Thanos will just pulverise Strange, take the time stone and free himself from the time loop.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Why didn't Strange do this to Thanos? Just loop and loop til Thanos agrees or become insane from the time loop?
    My understanding was Thanos wouldn't know he was caught in an infinite loop because his mind would be reset. Dormammu in the dark dimension has no concept of time there so he was aware of the endless cycle.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Lul yep

    It's kind of interesting too when Thanos talks about them not even using their most powerful weapon against him
    But Strange did use it, to find the 1 way to defeat him. He used in the only way it would have been successful.

    if we want to look for a plot hole the one thing I cant get past is why Tony needed to die. The entire end fight the Avengers had the gauntlet the entire time, Clint, T'Challa, Peter and finally Carol. The entire time they had the gauntlet they were under the idea that they needed to return the gems to their correct timeline and were making their way to Scott's van/time machine. Strange knew this plan would never work and eventually lead to Thanos getting the Gauntlet and stones which leads to Tony's sacrifice. At any point Strange could have told Carol to just take the stones super ****ing far away, or strange could have got the gauntlet him self portaled out put it some where safe and far out of reach. Thanos with out the gems would have stood no chance, Wanda already proved superior 1v1, his ships were destroyed the black order was all dead by that point, the fight was over.

    So why did Strange let Tony die? Because Tony said he all he did was make balloon animals.
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    My understanding was Thanos wouldn't know he was caught in an infinite loop because his mind would be reset. Dormammu in the dark dimension has no concept of time there so he was aware of the endless cycle.
    1) Dr. Strange pulled Wong out of the time reversal spell when he restored Hong Kong so he could fight with him while time was reversing.

    Surely he can pull Thanos out of the time loop so he'd just be standing there watching time loop around him.

    2) Trapping Thanos in a time loop that he is not aware of still saves the entire world. Times still goes on normal for the rest.
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    But Strange did use it, to find the 1 way to defeat him. He used in the only way it would have been successful.

    if we want to look for a plot hole the one thing I cant get past is why Tony needed to die. The entire end fight the Avengers had the gauntlet the entire time, Clint, T'Challa, Peter and finally Carol. The entire time they had the gauntlet they were under the idea that they needed to return the gems to their correct timeline and were making their way to Scott's van/time machine. Strange knew this plan would never work and eventually lead to Thanos getting the Gauntlet and stones which leads to Tony's sacrifice. At any point Strange could have told Carol to just take the stones super ****ing far away, or strange could have got the gauntlet him self portaled out put it some where safe and far out of reach. Thanos with out the gems would have stood no chance, Wanda already proved superior 1v1, his ships were destroyed the black order was all dead by that point, the fight was over.

    So why did Strange let Tony die? Because Tony said he all he did was make balloon animals.
    1) It's part of his redemption arc starting from the very beginning of the MCU when he's introduced as an uncaring playboy to when he starts to actually care about how his actions can affect those around him and the world.

    2) The main point of the single successful timeline was that he saw every single outcome, i.e. everything you mentioned already. That could mean that Thanos would have found all the stones anyway or that the heroes you mentioned weren't strong enough to actually wield the glove. Again, tying into point 1, he started off as an insecure, narcissistic ass and redeemed himself in those 10 years to be able to defeat the single greatest threat to the universe at the time.
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    Originally Posted by coolblue365 View Post
    1) Dr. Strange pulled Wong out of the time reversal spell when he restored Hong Kong so he could fight with him while time was reversing.

    Surely he can pull Thanos out of the time loop so he'd just be standing there watching time loop around him.

    2) Trapping Thanos in a time loop that he is not aware of still saves the entire world. Times still goes on normal for the rest.
    I would imagine once Thanos becomes aware of loop (when he is pulled out he uses reality stone to change it. Thanos has 3 stones at that point, and I don't think Strange can trap Thanos and Thanos only in a time loop for the end of time and if he could what complications would that cause down the line? Ancient one said there is always consequence when you use it.

    The point of the time loop vs Dormammu was because strange knew he couldn't fight/defeat him so they were both trapped, He wouldn't pull Thanos out of the loop to fight him because he knows he can't win and would defeat the purpose of time loop.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    1) It's part of his redemption arc starting from the very beginning of the MCU when he's introduced as an uncaring playboy to when he starts to actually care about how his actions can affect those around him and the world.

    2) The main point of the single successful timeline was that he saw every single outcome, i.e. everything you mentioned already. That could mean that Thanos would have found all the stones anyway or that the heroes you mentioned weren't strong enough to actually wield the glove. Again, tying into point 1, he started off as an insecure, narcissistic ass and redeemed himself in those 10 years to be able to defeat the single greatest threat to the universe at the time.
    I never said they should wield the glove just take it out of reach. Only reason Thanos didn't die to Wanda was because of his ships which were destroyed from Carol. I can't see any way Thanos, with no stones, sword, black order or ships, would stand a chance vs Wanda + the entire Avengers team.

    I get the whole redemption arc and it makes for a great story and that ending is much better than what I suggested. I was just saying if you want to find a plot hole, that is it.

    Also it is impossible to see every single outcome, 14 million outcomes before he saw a winning one. I assume once he saw a winning one he stopped watching, plus there could be other winning ones mixed in there where they won after Strange got killed because he wouldn't be able to see past his own death.
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    I never said they should wield the glove just take it out of reach. Only reason Thanos didn't die to Wanda was because of his ships which were destroyed from Carol. I can't see any way Thanos, with no stones, sword, black order or ships, would stand a chance vs Wanda + the entire Avengers team.

    I get the whole redemption arc and it makes for a great story and that ending is much better than what I suggested. I was just saying if you want to find a plot hole, that is it.
    bruh...he literally saw every outcome possible, including what you just said. It's a superhero movie bro just leave it at that LOL
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    bruh...he literally saw every outcome possible, including what you just said. It's a superhero movie bro just leave it at that LOL
    you ever hear the expression it was in the last place I looked? no **** cuz you stop looking once you find it.
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    Probably wouldn't work, countered with the reality stone perhaps.

    Strange and thanos had an epic fight on titan tho.
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