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    Question I don't understand relationships? [serious] [experienced brahs]

    Okay brahs so I read this thread the other day;

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=158114423

    I Also watched a lot of videos of youtube

    and it seems in order to have a good relationship with a women (red pill), you need to be emotionally distant, have her chase your validation, don't be emotional, strong frame, **** them in the most kinky/cavemen way, maintain your frame, be spontaneous(surprise her), lead etc.


    But i'm not sure if the internet has warped my mind. I go on facebook and I also know guys around my age who are in long term relationships. and I gurantee you, that these dudes do not do half the chit that I've read online. It seems, all these dudes are just genuinely nice guys and treat their girlfriend really well without even thinking about nor doing the above? Sure some may say "oh these guys are beta providers" I mean possibly. But what I don't understand is what the right answer is. How do you behave in the relationship? I've read reddit too all this stuff about push/pull, making her "dread that you might break up with her" and all these ****ing games like wtf? I gurantee you these dudes I know do not act like this?

    So what is the right answer? is the internet not real life or is real life wrong?
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    Okay brahs so I read this thread the other day;

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=158114423

    I Also watched a lot of videos of youtube

    and it seems in order to have a good relationship with a women (red pill), you need to be emotionally distant, have her chase your validation, don't be emotional, strong frame, **** them in the most kinky/cavemen way, maintain your frame, be spontaneous(surprise her), lead etc.


    But i'm not sure if the internet has warped my mind. I go on facebook and I also know guys around my age who are in long term relationships. and I gurantee you, that these dudes do not do half the chit that I've read online. It seems, all these dudes are just genuinely nice guys and treat their girlfriend really well without even thinking about nor doing the above? Sure some may say "oh these guys are beta providers" I mean possibly. But what I don't understand is what the right answer is. How do you behave in the relationship? I've read reddit too all this stuff about push/pull, making her "dread that you might break up with her" and all these ****ing games like wtf? I gurantee you these dudes I know do not act like this?

    So what is the right answer? is the internet not real life or is real life wrong?
    Sloots gonna sloot, but good girls that won't leave you walking on egg shells and playing stupid games do exist. They are just a rarity.

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    All that chit is for phaggots who have nothing going for them so they need to resort to dumb mental games to keep women around

    If you’re not a beta loser and you actually bring something to the table in a relationship you can be yourself and have healthy relationships
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    Treat your girlfriend well, respect her and genuinely be good to her

    Smash her real good

    Have high value and forever try to increase your value (looks, money, resources). You should be doing this regardless

    Love yourself above all

    Literally that simple brah ^ it can be broken down into many details and subsections but this is the basis
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    Okay brahs so I read this thread the other day;

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=158114423

    I Also watched a lot of videos of youtube

    and it seems in order to have a good relationship with a women (red pill), you need to be emotionally distant, have her chase your validation, don't be emotional, strong frame, **** them in the most kinky/cavemen way, maintain your frame, be spontaneous(surprise her), lead etc.


    But i'm not sure if the internet has warped my mind. I go on facebook and I also know guys around my age who are in long term relationships. and I gurantee you, that these dudes do not do half the chit that I've read online. It seems, all these dudes are just genuinely nice guys and treat their girlfriend really well without even thinking about nor doing the above? Sure some may say "oh these guys are beta providers" I mean possibly. But what I don't understand is what the right answer is. How do you behave in the relationship? I've read reddit too all this stuff about push/pull, making her "dread that you might break up with her" and all these ****ing games like wtf? I gurantee you these dudes I know do not act like this?

    So what is the right answer? is the internet not real life or is real life wrong?
    Be a high quality guy. Find a high quality girl. Don't stop being a high quality guy and treat your girlfriend with respect and love. Chances are you won't need to do any of that and can have a healthy relationship among (more or less) equals. Red pill stuff, if applied literally, will work very well with damaged insecure girls, but that's not a relationship really...
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    Originally Posted by Sevenlionz View Post
    Treat your girlfriend well, respect her and genuinely be good to her

    Smash her real good

    Have high value and forever try to increase your value (looks, money, resources). You should be doing this regardless

    Love yourself above all

    Literally that simple brah ^ it can be broken down into many details and subsections but this is the basis
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    Originally Posted by BrightThru2014 View Post
    Be a high quality guy. Find a high quality girl. Don't stop being a high quality guy and treat your girlfriend with respect and love. Chances are you won't need to do any of that and can have a healthy relationship among (more or less) equals. Red pill stuff, if applied literally, will work very well with damaged insecure girls, but that's not a relationship really...
    This guy gets it. The funny part is, it has never been easier for high quality guys to get high quality girls. Just because high quality girls won‘t settle for dumb mother****ers anymore.
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    M'kay.

    So, yes I would agree that there is some truth in women being attracted to strong men. That doesn't mean game playing assh*les, or emotionless robots. It does mean that men who have a strong sense of self/have their own life going on and don't immediately go all attached at the hip/dependent/approval seeking will likely do better.

    Even then going full out fake persona is a waste of your time and hers if you are actually wanting any kind of long term relationship. If you can't be yourself and are playing a role all the time then the other person is in a relationship with your "character" not with you.

    Sure, we become familiar, more comfortable, less guarded, and sometimes may even drift too far in that direction. Normal stuff.

    Meeting and dating people from a script or a playbook is just lame. Be yourself, just perhaps a little smoothed down for company. Hope she can do the same. See how it goes.
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    1- confidence. This is the number #1 thing women want from a man and the #1 thing most guys dont have yet complain about never getting laid.

    2- Sh it test. Women have a need to be with the best most masculine guy they can find, Their role in the big scheme is to have babies and care for them. They are naturally drawn to a masculine man. Doesnt mean you need a giant beard and lumberjack shirt, just means you need to be an actual man. you know what I mean, when something is stupid, just say its stupid. Dont be led around by the nose by some girl with her whims. just say no.

    They sh it test guys to make sure they have the right guy. Most of us are oblivious to this and say they are just a bitch and let them go. not that bad because some of them need to be tossed out. Some dont though.

    Next time you get tested just ask yourself what would happen if you actually told her the truth. The proceed to tell her like it is.

    A good woman will respect that. Might disagree but will respect your opinion.

    The one that you need to get rid of will freak out.
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    omfg this forum is so f*cking ghey. the fact that you even care is so pathetic. do you have a hobby? have you considered hacky sack? you typed paragraphs about how to understand women, then other phaggy men came in and also typed paragraphs. WHAT. THE. F*CK. IS WRONG WITH YOU
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    Originally Posted by Sevenlionz View Post
    Treat your girlfriend well, respect her and genuinely be good to her

    Smash her real good

    Have high value and forever try to increase your value (looks, money, resources). You should be doing this regardless

    Love yourself above all

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    This is really good
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    So, yes I would agree that there is some truth in women being attracted to strong men. That doesn't mean game playing assh*les, or emotionless robots. It does mean that men who have a strong sense of self/have their own life going on and don't immediately go all attached at the hip/dependent/approval seeking will likely do better.
    So true, please listen to her. Have a strong sense of self, not dependent on whether or not it gets approval from the woman. Nothing sexually less attractive than a man trying to adapt to what he thinks will get approval.
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    This is really good
    Thanks brah. Another thing I would add For the OP that technically falls under the love yourself category but is SO important, it’s importance cannot be understated is:

    Don’t be needy

    Neediness is one of the biggest turnoffs to all women ever, it can invalidate a lot of positive traits you might have
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    here's my room you insufferable phaggot



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    the kitchen sink i share with roommates is plugged up and full of weeks old dish water and smells like a sewer, pretty sure mold is growing there. i had a chick over last night that looked like a model, i told her i'd make fetticini alfredo chicken, which i did. i needed a fork for her plate and they were all at the bottom of the swamp sink, so i was digging around for it while talking to her for about 5 minutes. finally pulled it out, washed it and let her eat that

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    It's a fine balance that you have to learn through experience. Reading won't actually help you except to possibly recognize red flags on their part if you lack experience, but you need to learn how to deal with them/avoid them.

    You don't need to treat a girl like complete chit, but you also gotta stay firm in your morals/needs, and not give in too much. You also need to learn the balance of your relationship and keeping your life moving forward independently. Both you will learn, as you go.

    People without experience usually suggest the complete dickhead route because if you had to do 1 extreme being a complete dickhead will get you further than being overly nice and always giving in to your girl, and once you give a portion of yours balls to the girl in a relationship you can NEVER get the respect back, but you can become nicer later, though neither will result in a successful/healthy relationship in the long run.
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    i'm not sure if the internet has warped my mind.
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    Originally Posted by BrightThru2014 View Post
    Be a high quality guy. Find a high quality girl. Don't stop being a high quality guy and treat your girlfriend with respect and love. Chances are you won't need to do any of that and can have a healthy relationship among (more or less) equals. Red pill stuff, if applied literally, will work very well with damaged insecure girls, but that's not a relationship really...
    Biggest mistake I made was stopped being a high quality guy once I had hot gf. Before her I was always improving myself best shape etc... once I get her really into me I just stopped working out really stopped focusing on myself my future just got lazy. Biggest mistake ever. Reppd for this good advice.
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    Originally Posted by stezus View Post
    here's my room you insufferable phaggot



    i have two full piss jugs by the door, and one in the closet.
    the kitchen sink i share with roommates is plugged up and full of weeks old dish water and smells like a sewer, pretty sure mold is growing there. i had a chick over last night that looked like a model, i told her i'd make fetticini alfredo chicken, which i did. i needed a fork for her plate and they were all at the bottom of the swamp sink, so i was digging around for it while talking to her for about 5 minutes. finally pulled it out, washed it and let her eat that

    how's that for understanding relationships ya phuck
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    Originally Posted by ryankoch View Post
    This guy srs?
    nah he isn't

    the premise is somewhat correct, in that it's mostly dependent on the frame you have in order to get girls interested in you, but guaranteed if any girl of value came to that kunt's place they would nope the fuq out of there

    the guy is trolling to illustrate a point, but he isn't doing it very well

    plus he looks about 45.
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    I think people get it twisted when they say "Be an a$sh01e," or any similar line of thinking. It's not about being a certain way. It's about NOT being a certain way.

    Don't be a pushover.

    So yea, a fight breaks out and the girl drops an ultimatum. The guy who goes "How can I make this right?!" as tears well up in his little b!tch eyes is gonna get the worst reaction. The guy laughing in her face will fare better. But the guy who doesn't get into the fight in the first place is the real winner. Assertive and self-assured is a lot better than "Be a douche who negs her every 15 minutes 12 seconds" or whatever the fook.

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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    Okay brahs so I read this thread the other day;

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=158114423

    I Also watched a lot of videos of youtube

    and it seems in order to have a good relationship with a women (red pill), you need to be emotionally distant, have her chase your validation, don't be emotional, strong frame, **** them in the most kinky/cavemen way, maintain your frame, be spontaneous(surprise her), lead etc.


    But i'm not sure if the internet has warped my mind. I go on facebook and I also know guys around my age who are in long term relationships. and I gurantee you, that these dudes do not do half the chit that I've read online. It seems, all these dudes are just genuinely nice guys and treat their girlfriend really well without even thinking about nor doing the above? Sure some may say "oh these guys are beta providers" I mean possibly. But what I don't understand is what the right answer is. How do you behave in the relationship? I've read reddit too all this stuff about push/pull, making her "dread that you might break up with her" and all these ****ing games like wtf? I gurantee you these dudes I know do not act like this?

    So what is the right answer? is the internet not real life or is real life wrong?
    Sure they're in relationships but you never know what's going on between them. He could be getting sex once a month and is miserable. That's how relationships usually end up because the dude loses his frame and becomes a simp. The key is you never ever have a girl, she's just yours for a time being.
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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    1- confidence. This is the number #1 thing women want from a man and the #1 thing most guys dont have yet complain about never getting laid.

    2- Sh it test. Women have a need to be with the best most masculine guy they can find, Their role in the big scheme is to have babies and care for them. They are naturally drawn to a masculine man. Doesnt mean you need a giant beard and lumberjack shirt, just means you need to be an actual man. you know what I mean, when something is stupid, just say its stupid. Dont be led around by the nose by some girl with her whims. just say no.

    They sh it test guys to make sure they have the right guy. Most of us are oblivious to this and say they are just a bitch and let them go. not that bad because some of them need to be tossed out. Some dont though.

    Next time you get tested just ask yourself what would happen if you actually told her the truth. The proceed to tell her like it is.

    A good woman will respect that. Might disagree but will respect your opinion.

    The one that you need to get rid of will freak out.
    A woman will chit test you your entire life to make sure you're who you really are. Better have a girl you really love cuz the BS never stops.
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    Originally Posted by sloppyjoe1 View Post
    A woman will chit test you your entire life to make sure you're who you really are. Better have a girl you really love cuz the BS never stops.
    can you girlfriend a hoe? e.g. a girl who dresses like skank, high slay count posts on insta g string pics etc ? are you "insecure" if you don't gf her?
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    WAY too much overthinking. If she's into you, it'll be effortless and easy. If she's not into you, you'll be chasing her around and it won't work. 30 years ago, chasing the female did work - but in the era of infinite options; it does not.
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    can you girlfriend a hoe? e.g. a girl who dresses like skank, high slay count posts on insta g string pics etc ? are you "insecure" if you don't gf her?
    Not at all. You're secure if you don't gf her. You have the self respect and discipline to know that even though she's hot you won't see her as a long term option. Men these days definitely need to work more on passing on a lot of these dead weight women.
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    Originally Posted by Sevenlionz View Post
    Treat your girlfriend well, respect her and genuinely be good to her

    Smash her real good

    Have high value and forever try to increase your value (looks, money, resources). You should be doing this regardless

    Love yourself above all

    Literally that simple brah ^ it can be broken down into many details and subsections but this is the basis
    Couldn’t have said it better myself

    Don’t poison yourself with that cookie cutter bs in the OP.
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    Originally Posted by exyl View Post
    Couldn’t have said it better myself

    Don’t poison yourself with that cookie cutter bs in the OP.
    Thanks man,

    I still feel a bit messed up after my first relationship. I wish it didn't end SO badly How iw as literally discarded like a piece of trash . Literally 1 week after breaking up she's sleeping around then in a relationship with someone else and just discards me like i'm nothing how can any normal prson do that? Wtf so scared to have a releationship again [srs]
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