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    Which guy from the 90s suffered most by going up against MJ?

    ESPN was having this debate last week.

    For me it's either GP or Ewing.

    GP would easily be considered a top 4 point guard if he won in 96. He would move passed the tier with Nash, Kidd, cp3 etc. Even curry doesn't have a finals MVP.

    Or Ewing who was eliminated by MJ 5 times.
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    Which guy from the 90s suffered most by going up against MJ?

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    Ewing by far
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    Originally Posted by yieldtonothing View Post
    Ewing by far
    I think you can make a solid case for Ewing magic GP Malone even Clyde and alonzo.

    The thing with Ewing is most people know he deserved a ring when MJ was gone. But starks blew it.
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    People have already mentioned Ewing, so I won't beat a dead horse. I will throw in that Jordan also hit the game winner against Georgetown in 82 and denied him yet another championship in college (although he did win in 84).

    I'll go with Charles Barkley if Ewing isn't an option. Even today, he gets clowned on by the TNT staff for having 0 rings. This was the guy who won an MVP in the 90s while Jordan was playing and was the leading scorer on the Dream Team. Because he didn't win in 93, however, he's mostly known by Zoomers as the class clown on TV instead of one of the best power forwards of all-time.
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    It's crazy how many teams and players got cucked by Michael Jordan.

    I'll say Malone and Stockton, I think the Jazz would have literally beaten any other team. Imagine being competitive in the playoffs for almost 2 decades and not even winning the championship once.


    New York I felt like in most years would have fell to another Eastern conference team at the time and likely a West team if they made the finals.
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    It's crazy how many teams and players got cucked by Michael Jordan.

    I'll say Malone and Stockton, I think the Jazz would have literally beaten any other team. Imagine being competitive in the playoffs for almost 2 decades and not even winning the championship once.


    New York I felt like in most years would have fell to another Eastern conference team at the time and likely a West team if they made the finals.
    But a ring doesn't do as much for Malone as it does some others imo. Most people have Malone as the #2 PF ever and one ring or two doesn't elevate him passed Duncan
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    Definitely Malone (and by extension Stockton), Ewing and Barkley
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    But a ring doesn't do as much for Malone as it does some others imo. Most people have Malone as the #2 PF ever and one ring or two doesn't elevate him passed Duncan
    Probably not you're right but where would most people rank Malone on a top 50 list? Maybe around 15-20? Positions don't really mean much, either you're a guard/forward or a big. He'd possibly rank top 10 if those 2 finals losses were wins and his legacy will always be one of having so many chances and opportunities playing with another HoF guard, but no chip.
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    Originally Posted by nas_is_illmatic View Post
    I'll go with Charles Barkley if Ewing isn't an option. Even today, he gets clowned on by the TNT staff for having 0 rings. This was the guy who won an MVP in the 90s while Jordan was playing and was the leading scorer on the Dream Team. Because he didn't win in 93, however, he's mostly known by Zoomers as the class clown on TV instead of one of the best power forwards of all-time.
    MJ (also Malone to a lesser extext) also showed what a dichotomy Barkley was. MJ was a fierce competitor and always kept in shape. Malone (also a physical freak) is always seen to have been a better player than Chuck. I love Barkley, but you've gotta wonder what his career could have been if he didn't bleed gravy throughout his playing days.
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    stockton and malone's legacy would be completely different if not for MJ. they were an all-time great duo.

    i think payton's legacy actually improved because of jordan. even though he never beat him, so much of his defensive rep comes from guarding jordan.
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    Originally Posted by Madvillainy View Post
    i think payton's legacy actually improved because of jordan. even though he never beat him, so much of his defensive rep comes from guarding jordan.
    100% agreed. Also Payton wasn't really as much of the "alpha" on his team comparatively (though still the top dog on the mid-late 90's Sonics) as Ewing and Barkley were for their teams.
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    Originally Posted by Steemboat View Post
    100% agreed. Also Payton wasn't really as much of the "alpha" on his team comparatively (though still the top dog on the mid-late 90's Sonics) as Ewing and Barkley were for their teams.
    yeah, payton still occupies a niche in basketball history for defense, especially as a guard. the last 2 guards to win DPOTY are payton and jordan. i don't think his rep really changes much because his team lost to jordan. i think stockton and malone get judged a bit differently.
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    Originally Posted by Madvillainy View Post
    stockton and malone's legacy would be completely different if not for MJ. they were an all-time great duo.

    i think payton's legacy actually improved because of jordan. even though he never beat him, so much of his defensive rep comes from guarding jordan.
    I kinda agree. But if the sonics were to beat MJ in those finals we'd look at GP much differently. That was a historically great run he had. Embarrassed Stockton, Kenny smith, cassell. The percentages he held them to is absurd

    Even embarrassed Jordan. MJ was 5/19 with 5 turnovers in that game 6.
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    I kinda agree. But if the sonics were to beat MJ in those finals we'd look at GP much differently. That was a historically great run he had. Embarrassed Stockton, Kenny smith, cassell. The percentages he held them to is absurd

    Even embarrassed Jordan. MJ was 5/19 with 5 turnovers in that game 6.
    people have argued that if GP was put on Jordan from the get go and Nate wasn't injured the series would have looked different
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    Definitely Malone/Stockton

    Barkley right behind
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    lots of good shouts in this thread, ewing/barkley/malone obvious ones

    to a certain extent Reggie Miller as well... although his dgaf rivalry with jordan kinda propels him higher from fans perspective
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    Originally Posted by tekkenbruh View Post
    Definitely Malone (and by extension Stockton), Ewing and Barkley
    Malone was an absolute monster,it definitely hurt his legacy a fair bit...also not having a ring.
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