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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    The issue is every single time one of these "good idea" laws is introduced, it always results in government overreach and abuse. Every single time. Further, if you were drunk and killed some people, you should be charged with wreckless driving and a reasonable jury would say you're a murderer; you don't need a specific law, just common sense.
    I'm sure you're happy with the government protecting you in all kinds of ways. Plus the Constitution demands some.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    I'm sure you're happy with the government protecting you in all kinds of ways. Plus the Constitution demands some.
    Such as?
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    Such as?
    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

    To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

    To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

    To establish post offices and post roads;

    To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

    To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

    To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

    To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

    To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

    To provide and maintain a navy;

    To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

    To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

    To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    How would you know if someone was over the legal limit if they're driving without causing any problems? So are you advocating for a police state where we just ASSUME people are drunk at all times and need to have breathalyzer tests before they get into their car? Why not just add one of those things to every vehicle sold in the US? It would eliminate drunk driving, wouldn't it?
    There are 37,000 auto related deaths a year, we could save the majority of them if we instilled governors in cars that kept them from going over 35mph.

    Minor inconvenience that would save tens of thousands of lives.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    There are 37,000 auto related deaths a year, we could save the majority of them if we instilled governors in cars that kept them from going over 35mph.

    Minor inconvenience that would save tens of thousands of lives.
    And we could make it zero deaths if cars maxed out at 5 mph. So what? We need a response tailored to the situation, and they will differ from place to place.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

    To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

    To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

    To establish post offices and post roads;

    To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

    To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

    To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

    To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

    To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

    To provide and maintain a navy;

    To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

    To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

    To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
    Thanks for the copypasta of the Constitution; don't see any laws listed that limit my liberty whatsoever.
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    Thanks for the copypasta of the Constitution; don't see any laws listed that limit my liberty whatsoever.
    Then you're a moron.
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    Thanks for the copypasta of the Constitution; don't see any laws listed that limit my liberty whatsoever.
    lmfao.
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    one member was arrested after leaving the gym today - no details on that yet
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    Is this the jersey gym from a few days ago? They’re all getting arrested today. Lol
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    Originally Posted by LatinoWarrior2 View Post
    Is this the jersey gym from a few days ago? They’re all getting arrested today. Lol
    all? as far as I can see it was one person so far. And they are still going to be open tomorrow.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Wearing mask, atm, helps keep others safe. We were talking about it as a political issue. It’s sad people like you are making it political.
    Should I enforce the order that people wear a mask outside?
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    There are ways someone could be pulled over for dui without committing a traffic violation. There are also ways they could be pulled over for some reason that had nothing to do with safety by upon discovering the drive was drunk they should then be removed from the road for safety.

    And just lol at trying to fight with me about dui laws as if they aren’t about public safety.
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    one member was arrested after leaving the gym today - no details on that yet
    Arrested for what?
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    Enlighten me on how I should pull someone over without probable cause.
    Who said anything about lacking pc? Cause I sure didn't.
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    all? as far as I can see it was one person so far. And they are still going to be open tomorrow.
    Several. Others are getting citations and fines
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Arrested for what?
    no details yet.
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    I love when leftists talk about the punishment inflicted.

    Police returned to the gym Monday afternoon and issued a disorderly conduct summons. A June court date has been scheduled.

    State Police Superintendent Col. Patrick Callahan also said Monday clients were given a warning.

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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    I love when leftists talk about the punishment inflicted.

    Police returned to the gym Monday afternoon and issued a disorderly conduct summons. A June court date has been scheduled.

    State Police Superintendent Col. Patrick Callahan also said Monday clients were given a warning.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...ners-cited.amp

    A warning and a disorderly conduct summons......well, that will show em.
    I'm wondering if the client that was arrested was there yesterday and they are going to arrest them if they show back up after the warning.

    Otherwise the only thing I can think is if he had an outstanding warrant or got too lippy
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    Originally Posted by LatinoWarrior2 View Post
    Several. Others are getting citations and fines
    I have not seen one report indicating several arrests. Only one.
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    You can use that gif, but if you tried to even read the script on youtube you would be stopped. And you don't get how that list tells you things you can't do?

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    Its also free publicity.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Its also free publicity.
    there is a go fund me for their legal fees and fines
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    You can use that gif, but if you tried to even read the script on youtube you would be stopped. And you don't get how that list tells you things you can't do?

    You can't be serious.
    Wait, so now Youtube can't censor me? I thought they were exempt from 1st Amendment protections because it's a private business...or does that not count right now?
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    Literally not gonna watch the rest of that video; 10 seconds was enough. "After pro-Trump protestors..." Yeah, so now standing up for personal liberty is a purely partisan issue. Well, maybe it actually is...
    There were two things going on at this gym yesterday. First, there was a gym reopening (despite governor's orders) after putting in place a series of safety restrictions based on CDC guidelines and a line of gym members lined up outside to get in and work out in accordance to the gym's new safety restrictions. Second, there were a bunch of flag-waving wingnuts holding an impromptu Trump rally in the parking lot not following any safety guidelines.

    One of these groups of people were staging a legitimate protest of civil disobedience to stand up for what they believe are their rights. The other group was engaged in political grandstanding which was not helpful to anyone. I'll leave it to you to figure out which group was which, and which was referenced by the phrase "pro-Trump protesters".

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