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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Yea there were a handful of citations given yesterday but not every member. Now they appear to be following them out of the parking lot, I imagine it would be to avoid the confrontation with the protestors they saw yesterday. But it is still mind boggling to me that Murphy is doing this.
    I mean, what is he supposed to do? Nothing as tons of people break the law? At some point you have to enforce something or the entire rule of law goes out the window.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    I mean, what is he supposed to do? Nothing as tons of people break the law? I mean, at some point you have to enforce something or the entire rule of law goes out the window.
    Citations for what? Also, hopefully they'll all be thrown out.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Citations for what? Also, hopefully they'll all be thrown out.
    Did the governor issue an order saying you can't (among other things) go to the gym?
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    well according to the owner, the NJ cops are now "pulling over" all members of the gym and issuing a citation for violating the governor's orders. The accompanying video shows him passing a car pulled over by a cop - not sure if that is what he means, maybe pulling them over as they leave the parking lot.
    Sucks to be those cops being ordered to write bull**** citations.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Did the governor issue an order?
    Governor Pitszker ordered that everyone wear masks outside, he also ordered a lockdown. Doesn't mean we're writing citations to people who aren't wearing masks, or for being outside.

    Should we?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Governor Pitszker ordered that everyone wear masks outside, he also ordered a lockdown. Doesn't mean we're writing citations to people who aren't wearing masks, or for being outside.

    Should we?
    I was, literally, making exactly this point when you (as I can always count on) came in a tried to pick a e-tussle with me and derail me.

    Look, they are breaking the law. I think you either have to give up on the law or enforce it somehow. I don't think that means you execute someone for having their mask pulled down, but yea, tell them to put it up - and if not something should happen.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    This is kind of weird - when I open the article below in mobile it says a gym member was arrested after he refused to give his name to the officers and given two citations, violating the governor's executive order and obstruction - but i don't see that info in the desktop version but it is also having trouble loading.


    http://newjersey.news12.com/story/42...pite-citations
    Courts are still closed for the most part. Hopefully they refuse to pay them, and the judge tosses them all out in court.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    I was, literally, making exactly this point when you (as I can always count on) came in a tried to pick a e-tussle with me and derail me.

    Look, they are breaking the law. I think you either have to give up on the law or enforce it somehow. I don't think that means you execute someone for having their mask pulled down, but yea, tell them to put it up - and if not something should happen.
    Its an order, not a law. We're not going to tell people that they should be wearing a mask outside.

    Like I said, last weekend I went to a gathering. There was like 12-14 adults, had a BBQ, people brought their kids. Guess what? None of us were wearing masks. Neither were the kids.

    Were we breaking the law?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Courts are still closed for the most part. Hopefully they refuse to pay them, and the judge tosses them all out in court.
    On what possible grounds could a judge throw them out? "Ohhh, I don't agree with this law (assuming the judge even thinks that) guess I'll just ignore it."

    Talk about activist judging.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    I was, literally, making exactly this point when you (as I can always count on) came in a tried to pick a e-tussle with me and derail me.
    This sentence, literally, gave me cancer
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Its an order, not a law.
    An order from the governor has the exact same power as any law. It becomes the law. It's just like an executive order from the President.

    Fcking hell, you reallllly can't be a cop ... please.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    On what possible grounds could a judge throw them out? "Ohhh, I don't agree with this law (assuming the judge even thinks that) guess I'll just ignore it."

    Talk about activist judging.
    Judges throw out cases all the time. A grandma was given 5 traffic citations, because her and the grandkids weren't wearing a seat belt. She hobbled halfway to the stand, and the judge was like, "Ma'am, stop, case dismissed."

    Should he have done that?
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    An order from the governor has the exact same power as any law. It becomes the law. It's just like an executive order from the President.

    Fcking hell, you reallllly can't be a cop ... please.
    What is the ILCS charge I would write/arrest someone for being outside, not wearing a mask?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Judges throw out cases all the time. A grandma was given 5 traffic citations, because her and the grandkids weren't wearing a seat belt. She hobbled halfway to the stand, and the judge was like, "Ma'am, stop, case dismissed."

    Should he have done that?
    So you're just trying to move past the part where you didn't know an order from the governor is a law? I don't think so. I know you're a liar, but I have strong suspicions now you're a far bigger liar than I imagined.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    So you're just trying to move past the part where you didn't know an order from the governor is a law? I don't think so. I know you're a liar, but I have strong suspicions now you're a far bigger liar than I imagined.
    So tens of thousands of people in Illinois are breaking the law? Being outside without a mask? Is that what you're saying?

    If it's a law, then what is the ILCS charge?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So tens of thousands of people in Illinois are breaking the law? Being outside without a mask? Is that what you're saying?

    If it's a law, then what is the ILCS charge?
    So a two second google search showed me this is something very much being talked about in IL.

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coro...order/2275267/

    How is it a cop in Chicago wouldn't know any of this?

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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    So a two second google search showed me this is something very much being talked about in IL.

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coro...order/2275267/

    How is it a cop in Chicago wouldn't know any of this?

    Peace.
    The businesses were being hit with the charge for being open. What would the charge be for citizens not wearing a mask?

    And the fact that you want us to possibly arrest/fine those who aren't show what kind of person you truly are.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    He seems very keen on Dave arresting said minorities for being outside without a mask
    So can I jump out on someone for a street stop, go through them, and my probable cause will be, "They weren't wearing a mask outside." I'm sure when the lawsuits come, I can say I was following the executive order issued by the governor.....
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    Judges throw out cases all the time. A grandma was given 5 traffic citations, because her and the grandkids weren't wearing a seat belt. She hobbled halfway to the stand, and the judge was like, "Ma'am, stop, case dismissed."

    Should he have done that?
    No. The judiciaries role is administer justice according to the law, and to interpret how the law applies to specific situations. It is not to ignore the law in its entirety.
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    No. The judiciaries role is administer justice according to the law, and to interpret how the law applies to specific situations. It is not to ignore the law in its entirety.
    Judges dismiss cases all of the time. They'll most likely dismiss these cases. Unless we're talking about the summons violations, then they either pay the fine, or fight it. Hopefully they all fight it.
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    There is a video on Facebook of the arrest. Again, as far as I know that is the only one that happened. Not sure what else it would be.
    Is this the same video you saw on Facebook? I think this one happened on the 19th...


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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    Is this the same video you saw on Facebook? I think this one happened on the 19th...
    yea, thus far it is the only arrest.
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    Judges dismiss cases all of the time. They'll most likely dismiss these cases. Unless we're talking about the summons violations, then they either pay the fine, or fight it. Hopefully they all fight it.
    the gym is paying members' legal fees on this. I can't imagine any of these citations sticking when this is over. It's all about compliance now.
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    So one lunatic chick represents all? I'll be waiting for the reports of a misleading thread title like we get when all on the right are categorized by the actions of one.
    I wouldn't say she represents all on the left. Just the ones that would continuously rep worthless alt accounts like ItsOgre and others if they were a mod simply because they share the same political views.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    I was called out by a partisan mod who now has had his powers removed. I will continue to report phedophilia and harassment posts whether you like it or not.

    Bozz said harassment doesn't matter.
    Bozz said it's not harassment because Ari is not Somalian.

    And now he's not a mod.
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    I wouldn't say she represents all on the left. Just the ones that would continuously rep worthless alt accounts like ItsOgre and others if they were a mod simply because they share the same political views.
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    I don't get why people like Op intentionally seek out these videos of SJWs to make themselves mad.

    Is she an idiot absolutely yes? But I also don't see why her opinion was so important to make a thread about it.

    Ironically these SJWs would probably die down if people stopped giving them so much attention.
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    I'll make sure to rep LtsOgre next chance I get. And I'll tell him to thank you for it.

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