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    Chinese ##### going after Australia

    Fears of global trade war with China after Beijing slaps an 80 per cent tariff on Australian exports starting TODAY as brutal punishment for them demanding coronavirus inquiry - which was backed by 100 nations including the UK

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-exports.html

    Every country should just cease and desist business and travel with that ****hole and confiscate all property owned by Chinese nationals in their country
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    The world is already making new supply chain relationships. Australia will be fine. Fuk China.
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    the world's reaction to China:

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    I'm hoping this isn't real tea. But if it is, the world needs to put its foot down.
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    Things like this really give credence to this idea China knowingly did *something*, whether it's manufacture the virus in a lab or allow it to be spread once it (accidentally or not) got into Wuhan.

    I mean, we kind of at least know that - I can not think of any reason why they would tell their mouthpieces in the WHO to say it's not contagious while simultaneously locking down travel from outside Wuhan to other parts of China (while leaving it completely open to international travel).

    That makes no sense other than they didn't care or wanted it to spread outside China, the least damning explanation being they cared more about losing face internationally than letting it spread outside China - which still makes them look pretty much 100% responsible for all this.
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-exports.html

    Every country should just cease and desist business and travel with that ****hole and confiscate all property owned by Chinese nationals in their country
    Yep, but Americans will continue to buy cheap Chinese crap.
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    China embarrassing themselves on a global stage. We need reparations.
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    If Australia about-faces on China, it'll be a devastating blow. Australia's been very kind to China by allowing Chinese individuals & SOEs to buy up ownership or major influence across a wide range of critical areas for national security. Natural Resources/Mining being a big one.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    If Australia about-faces on China, it'll be a devastating blow. Australia's been very kind to China by allowing Chinese individuals & SOEs to buy up ownership or major influence across a wide range of critical areas for national security. Natural Resources/Mining being a big one.
    Ya Austalia has been cozing up by tariffing Chinese steel and blacklisting Huawei 5G

    Those damn ##### taking advantage of Australia's "kindness"
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    I'm hoping this isn't real tea. But if it is, the world needs to put its foot down.
    80% tariff on barley is real tea, done on technicalities so there's basically nothing to be done about it except sell elsewhere.

    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    If Australia about-faces on China, it'll be a devastating blow. Australia's been very kind to China by allowing Chinese individuals & SOEs to buy up ownership or major influence across a wide range of critical areas for national security. Natural Resources/Mining being a big one.
    Australia's whole thing for decades has been to farm and mine and sell the results to anyone. More recently tourism and education have become major industries. Unfortunately our biggest overseas customer for all those products has become China and now they are showing the whip hand.

    Our government needs to work on self-sufficiency and alternative markets but the facts is that we're going to have to eat some big economic hits right at the worst possible time. The alternative is to just openly kow-tow to China, which of course plenty of people want to do right now.

    I read some horribly servile opinion piece by a local professor saying that Australia needs to be 'less hostile' to China because they are more powerful than us and our most important trading partner. The kicker is the guys name was something like Luwai Chen. Basically a third column traitor appointed as an educator and posting CCP propoganda in the news. Dude should be tarred and feathered and run out on a rail.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    the world's reaction to China:

    If there was ever something that could unite the US it should be this.
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    If there was ever something that could unite the US it should be this.
    unite the West*. It's also why Bannon told Trump to focus on economic nationalism.

    Mr Bannon talks about economic nationalism as the antithesis of “globalism”, which he characterises as a governing creed which has put the economic interests of multinational firms and a wealthy international elite above those of ordinary working class Americans.
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    unite the West*. It's also why Bannon told Trump to focus on economic nationalism.
    Right we'll drag the west along with us if we put our foot down.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    If there was ever something that could unite the US it should be this.
    Except China dropped tariffs on US barley and will probably be getting it from the US at a slight premium.

    Lol most of you miscers and people that post on the internet in general are easily manipulated idiots, working low-tier jobs, such as local law enforcement (non federal agencies), trades, caretakers, bartenders, servers, retail, and low-level IT jobs.
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    The investigation is completely unnecessary. Waste of resources when they should be focusing on the spread in their own countries.
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    Feel like it's time the world puts their foot down, China's behaviour is just plain out of hand.
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    80% tariff on barley is real tea, done on technicalities so there's basically nothing to be done about it except sell elsewhere.

    Australia's whole thing for decades has been to farm and mine and sell the results to anyone. More recently tourism and education have become major industries. Unfortunately our biggest overseas customer for all those products has become China and now they are showing the whip hand.

    Our government needs to work on self-sufficiency and alternative markets but the facts is that we're going to have to eat some big economic hits right at the worst possible time. The alternative is to just openly kow-tow to China, which of course plenty of people want to do right now.

    I read some horribly servile opinion piece by a local professor saying that Australia needs to be 'less hostile' to China because they are more powerful than us and our most important trading partner. The kicker is the guys name was something like Luwai Chen. Basically a third column traitor appointed as an educator and posting CCP propoganda in the news. Dude should be tarred and feathered and run out on a rail.
    Yes, China cares deeply about its propaganda machine (domestically & internationally), can you imagine how much they spent to paint China positively during this whole pandemic? Couple unlimited funding with the fact they have institutions dedicated to analyzing, understanding, and artfully exploiting foreign countries, and you can see how it's one big, complex, but centrally planned operation. Very effective.

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    The investigation is completely unnecessary. Waste of resources when they should be focusing on the spread in their own countries.
    CCP shill spotted.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Things like this really give credence to this idea China knowingly did *something*, whether it's manufacture the virus in a lab or allow it to be spread once it (accidentally or not) got into Wuhan.

    I mean, we kind of at least know that - I can not think of any reason why they would tell their mouthpieces in the WHO to say it's not contagious while simultaneously locking down travel from outside Wuhan to other parts of China (while leaving it completely open to international travel).

    That makes no sense other than they didn't care or wanted it to spread outside China, the least damning explanation being they cared more about losing face internationally than letting it spread outside China - which still makes them look pretty much 100% responsible for all this.

    I am going to play devils advocate and give them the benefit of doubt. I don't think they intended for it to spread, i think they did what has always happens in totalitarian authoritarian governments and that is when sh*t went down everyone tried to cover it up and pretend everything was fine so them and their family wouldn't get dragged off to re-education camps or lose their cushy Government Funded job. It probably probably played out like the Chernobyl incident

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    Of course Comrade CCP is the best, our facilities are the best isn't that right comrade?
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    So everyone pretended everything was fine until it literally exploded in their face.


    The problem is with Authoritarian governments is they dehumanize you to the point that you will dob in your parents as pro western traitors to save your own neck. If the CCP says the sky is Purple then you better start saying the sky is Purple or else.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    The world is already making new supply chain relationships. Australia will be fine. Fuk China.
    this. the truth is that china needs the world more than the world needs china. they import more pork, beef, lamb than the country can produce.... if the exporters reduced shipping to china, ccp would literally starve. the african swine flu (no racist but the swine flu came from africa) killed off almost half of their pigs and pork almost 60%of their meat intake.
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    Every Australian mining billionaire will be (or is already) coming out and pushing the government to go easy on China.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/poli...chinese-masks/

    Mr Forrest also invited Victoria Consul General Long Zhou to address the media at the Commonwealth Parliamentary Offices in Melbourne.

    He said Mr Long’s attendance was “a gesture of appreciation and friendship between our two great countries”. On Thursday, he refused to apologise for extending the invitation.

    “I have to say – what a joke,” Mr Forrest told Today host Karl Stefanovic.

    “This is the biggest non-story ever. Take a chill pill.

    “Realise that there are families right across Australia who can put food on the table because we have got a great trading relationship with North America, even greater trading relationship with Japan, and even greater trading relationship with China.

    “We should be everybody’s best friends. These fruit cakes running around saying – you know, ‘warmongering, you’re doing the wrong thing’… Be happy that you are eating this evening, mate.”
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    Originally Posted by Kewbrah View Post
    Every Australian mining billionaire will be (or is already) coming out and pushing the government to go easy on China.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/poli...chinese-masks/
    Surprise, surprise lol.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    Yes, China cares deeply about its propaganda machine (domestically & internationally), can you imagine how much they spent to paint China positively during this whole pandemic? Couple unlimited funding with the fact they have institutions dedicated to analyzing, understanding, and artfully exploiting foreign countries, and you can see how it's one big, complex, but centrally planned operation. Very effective.

    Senior administration cabinet advisors? Courted & Paid by China.
    Senior intelligence officials? Courted & Paid by China.
    Senior business executives? Courted & Paid by China.

    If you have enough influence, you can make anyone think China is benign. But they got deep, into everything.
    I'm curious though. If all all the elite Australians are paid by the CCP, why are there steel tariffs and 5g bans, tradie pog?

    You're just another vet left behind trying to find some sort of relevance while putting blame on the ##### for all your woes lmao
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    I think the entire world is in agreement that China should be held accountable, but the world is also very confused as to how. Many people suggested for the U.S. to refuse paying the money that China loaned, economically this would be disastrous since America never reneged on its debt. Nobody would lend the U.S. any money if that happens. Another option was to sue China, but this would require years and years of proceedings as both sides would bring an army of lawyers. Some say imposing newer and stricter tariffs, but that would be a gunshot for gunshot scenario where both sides equally hurt with neither winning any ground. Which leaves us with the most probable and best solution: shift supply chains.

    No solution is easy but we have gotten to the breaking point with China and Covid-19 may have been the final straw.
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    Originally Posted by alain View Post
    I am going to play devils advocate and give them the benefit of doubt. I don't think they intended for it to spread, i think they did what has always happens in totalitarian authoritarian governments and that is when sh*t went down everyone tried to cover it up and pretend everything was fine so them and their family wouldn't get dragged off to re-education camps or lose their cushy Government Funded job.
    I think that's most likely to be true, but an inquiry should hold the CCP responsible for their incompetence. Obviously nothing will come of it, but it's a valid public relations exercise to shame China over their failure to behave in a reasonable manner.
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    Originally Posted by Yellowbeaver View Post
    I'm curious though. If all all the elite Australians are paid by the CCP, why are there steel tariffs and 5g bans, tradie pog?

    You're just another vet left behind trying to find some sort of relevance while putting blame on the ##### for all your woes lmao
    It was more of a general statement about China's plan to influence politics all around the globe over the last couple decades.
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-exports.html

    Every country should just cease and desist business and travel with that ****hole and confiscate all property owned by Chinese nationals in their country
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Things like this really give credence to this idea China knowingly did *something*, whether it's manufacture the virus in a lab or allow it to be spread once it (accidentally or not) got into Wuhan.

    I mean, we kind of at least know that - I can not think of any reason why they would tell their mouthpieces in the WHO to say it's not contagious while simultaneously locking down travel from outside Wuhan to other parts of China (while leaving it completely open to international travel).

    That makes no sense other than they didn't care or wanted it to spread outside China, the least damning explanation being they cared more about losing face internationally than letting it spread outside China - which still makes them look pretty much 100% responsible for all this.
    Or the plausible explanation being that it damaged their economy, and letting it loose damaged other countries economies, so comparatively China doesn't lose too much.
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