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    Justin Gaethje is built different

    I've got the science boys, Khabib and Justin are actually very similar with their physiques. A lot of people are claiming Khabib will ragdoll Justin on the ground like what he did to Dustin and Conor. It will not happen.

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    The best wrestlers come in all different shapes and sizes.

    But I agree Khabib will not ragdoll Justin, not because of the way Justin has built, but because he has higher level wrestling to draw upon than those other two.

    Khabib may still get the better of Justin in that department. We need to see the fight to know for sure. But Justin is going to give him a harder time with his wrestling I bet.
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    small waist wut

    Gaethje 2.0 could definitely be a problem for Khabib tho
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    small waist wut

    Gaethje 2.0 could definitely be a problem for Khabib tho
    Dustin is not a D1 wrestler like Gaethje.
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    I still think Tony would have killed khabib in any of the 4 previous matchups (dead fukin srs)
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    small waist wut

    Gaethje 2.0 could definitely be a problem for Khabib tho
    Favorable picture for Dustin, but Dustin is not stocky, he's just filled out with muscle. Gaethje carries more mass around his waist, he doesn't have a six pack, he is 'fat' like Khabib.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    The best wrestlers come in all different shapes and sizes.
    Now I don't doubt that, however my point is both Justin and Khabib are strong fellas and with the same body type. Conor and Dustin, while crisp and quick boxers, do not posses the level of strength that Justin and Khabib have. Timing is great when boxing. But strength is great when wrestling.

    Justin will make Khabib look beatable. Even if he loses. I'll be back on this one.
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    Originally Posted by Swept View Post
    Khabib will maul him
    justin is gonna look khabib right in the eyes, and push him off of him.

    and then joe rogan is gonna go 'oh woooooooooow, look at justin fend off khabib's takedownnnnnn'
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    How does Jon Jones compare to this according to this theory?

    Wouldn't DC be the way better wrestler?
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    Originally Posted by Barteh View Post
    How does Jon Jones compare to this according to this theory?

    Wouldn't DC be the way better wrestler?
    bro, i don't wanna try to create theories about ideal wrestling bodies.

    my whole point is Justin Gaethje has got the same body type as Khabib. very strong, short arms, fat midsection, big legs and narrow shoulders. (both of them don't have a V taper and actually have pretty ugly physiques by bodybuilding standards)

    All I'm saying is... don't count on Gaethje looking like McGregor in there, he's gonna be arguing with Khabib's power in the grapple for all 5 rounds.
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    This is about as broscience as it gets.

    Appearance is about 0/100ths of the fighting puzzle. To work backwards in constructing a fighter from physique, like you have done, to considering skillset summarily is a fundamentally awful method.

    Dustin already lost to Justin.

    Khabib wins because he never takes an unfavourable fight. He is anti-entertainment. Khabib knows he needs a crowd because Gaethje makes emotional mistakes. I would be surprised if Khabib even fights in the next 12 months.
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    Originally Posted by BobLoblawBrah View Post
    This is about as broscience as it gets.

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    Summed up your post perfectly.
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    Originally Posted by BobLoblawBrah View Post
    This is about as broscience as it gets.

    Appearance is about 0/100ths of the fighting puzzle. To work backwards in constructing a fighter from physique, like you have done, to considering skillset summarily is a fundamentally awful method.

    Dustin already lost to Justin.

    Khabib wins because he never takes an unfavourable fight. He is anti-entertainment. Khabib knows he needs a crowd because Gaethje makes emotional mistakes. I would be surprised if Khabib even fights in the next 12 months.
    It ain’t broscience bb gurl, that’s like saying being tall = good in basketball is ‘broscience’. Or being built like a starving Ethiopian marathon runner is just ‘broscience’. Body type preference in sports is very, very real. Surprising for someone to even try to deny that.

    And MMA math doesn’t work.

    And appearance is a huge part of fighting, that’s why you’ll never see me starting one with a 6’3 220 lbs man!
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    Originally Posted by Blazenwave View Post
    It ain’t broscience bb gurl, that’s like saying being tall = good in basketball is ‘broscience’. Or being built like a starving Ethiopian marathon runner is just ‘broscience’. Body type preference in sports is very, very real. Surprising for someone to even try to deny that.

    And MMA math doesn’t work.

    And appearance is a huge part of fighting, that’s why you’ll never see me starting one with a 6’3 220 lbs man!
    This. Big part of Jon Jones' game is the fact he is tied for the longest reach in MMA history with Struve. Keep your opponent further away, don't have to get close for jabs etc.

    Smaller stockier body = lower center of gravity, literally what wrestling is about. Getting under a guy to control them.

    Saying that, everyone who wrestles with Khabib in training say his strength feels like a heavyweight. It is unbelievable how good he is on the ground. These Dagestani guys wrestle top actual wrestlers in the world and keep up with them. I don't think Gaethje has a chance on the ground but standing up all it takes is one slip. Khabibs stand up defence is questionable.

    I'm putting my coins on Khabib still.
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    Originally Posted by Barteh View Post
    How does Jon Jones compare to this according to this theory?

    Wouldn't DC be the way better wrestler?
    This is exactly right. Wrestling accolades don’t necessarily equate to being the best GRAPPLER in MMA terms.

    This is why GSP was able to develop into the best MMA grappler we had seen up until Khabib. He developed his grappling style to be most apt for MMA. Lots of subtle differences that add up (clasping hands, safe in guard / on back, etc), to go along with the major difference (strike and submissions while grappling).

    Being the best wrestler / judoka / bjj guy does not make you the better MMA grappler, just as being the best boxer / Muay Thai / kick boxer doesn’t make you the better MMA striker.

    Well, and there are all those stories where at AKA, Khabib rag dolls some of the best wrestlers in the world on the reg.
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    we've literally never seen Justin Gaethje wrestle, every fight from the top of my head of his have been standing up. I don't even remember any of his fights that went with him on the ground. We can only assume that he is a great wrestler due to his D1 background.

    But Khabib has never faced somebody with his caliber of wrestling background. Gaethje is a tough dude at that
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    we've literally never seen Justin Gaethje wrestle, every fight from the top of my head of his have been standing up. I don't even remember any of his fights that went with him on the ground. We can only assume that he is a great wrestler due to his D1 background.

    But Khabib has never faced somebody with his caliber of wrestling background. Gaethje is a tough dude at that
    People are sleeping on Justin unnecessarily. The power in Justin's hands is what will shock Khabib fans. Khabib's opponents have always been weaker than him. The way Khabib fights is all about strength, his technique is elite, but the execution requires power, and Justin is very strong. Justin is actually very well equipped to put up a great performance against Khabib, if he does not psyche himself out from having demolished Tony, he has the best chance thus far to edge out a victory over Khabib.
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    big hipped dudes are harder to grab
    thats why dc is a good wrestler you cant outwrestle him you cant grab his belly
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    khabib is not going to age well. his back is already showing signs of hunchback.


    look at his posture. his neck is forward of his shoulders. his back is rounding. this will not end well.
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