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    PS5 is so impressive it’s ‘going to help drive future PCs’

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    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney says the PS5 is so impressive it’s ‘going to help drive future PCs’

    Sweeney sings the praises of Sony’s next-gen console


    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney says next-generation gaming consoles, in particular Sony’s PlayStation 5, will bring about changes in game development that go far beyond a jump in graphics quality. During a press briefing for the company’s newly announced Unreal Engine 5, which is optimized to work with next-gen consoles, Sweeney says the PS5 is a “remarkably balanced device.”

    “It has an immense amount of GPU power, but also multi-order bandwidth increase in storage management. That’s going to be absolutely critical,” he says. “It’s one thing to render everything that can fit in memory,” he adds, but a much more impressive feat to render a world that “might be tens of gigabytes in size” almost instantaneously, as Sony’s new console and its M.2 solid-state drive are promising.

    “We’ve been working super close with Sony for quite a long time on storage,” he says. “The storage architecture on the PS5 is far ahead of anything you can buy on anything on PC for any amount of money right now. It’s going to help drive future PCs. [The PC market is] going to see this thing ship and say, ‘Oh wow, SSDs are going to need to catch up with this.”

    “THE STORAGE ARCHITECTURE ON THE PS5 IS FAR AHEAD OF ANYTHING YOU CAN BUY ON ANYTHING ON PC.”

    The new drive, which Sony claims is faster than any on-market device available right now, won’t just make load times almost nonexistent, but will also enable developers to access the data their games are composed of with unprecedented speed. The result is larger game worlds loading much faster than ever before, which could result in drastic changes to how developers approach everything from balancing visual quality and performance to level design.

    Sweeney isn’t saying that you can’t get a comparable M.2 drive for your PC, even now if you want to shell out for it. Rather, he’s saying the custom drive Sony created and the way it interacts with the overall PS5 data management system makes it faster and more impressive from a development standpoint that anything a consumer could readily buy today, especially considering PC developers aren’t yet building games that take advantage of such speeds. That may change in the future when both new consoles arrive and, as Sweeney predicts, inspire significant upgrades to PC component design and PC-specific game development.

    Sweeney isn’t taking Sony’s word for it, either. He and the engineers at Epic are using the console themselves. Sweeney says the two companies have been working closely together during the development of UE5 and the PS5, ensuring that Epic’s game development tool sets for developers creating next-gen titles is optimized for the hardware that software will ultimately run on. The UE5 demo released this morning was even running on an early PS5 console, and Epic captured the quite remarkable footage straight from the device itself.

    As for Microsoft’s Xbox Series X, Sweeney isn’t saying the new Xbox won’t be able to achieve something similar; both are using custom SSDs that promise blazing speeds. But he says Epic’s strong relationship with Sony means the company is working more closely with the PlayStation creator than it does with Microsoft on this specific area. Regardless, words of such strong encouragement from Sweeney — who’s been in the industry for decades and has seen every jump, both iterative and groundbreaking — seem to suggest the new consoles will offer benefits most consumers and developers will have to experience to realize.

    We’re still waiting on some more crucial details about Sony’s new console, primarily what it will look like, how much it will cost, and whether Sony will have something like Microsoft’s Smart Delivery feature for transitioning purchases made on the PS4 over to the PS5. Sony decided — before the annual E3 expo was canceled due to COVID-19 — that it would be skipping the large Los Angeles conference and doing its own event, but the company hasn’t revealed its plans for any kind of reveal event to date. The closest we’ve gotten is a rundown of the hardware specifications and a deep dive into the system architecture from lead designer Mark Cerny in March, as well as a reveal of the new DualSense controller last month.
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    Aren’t you going xbox?
    Wut? I've been vocal about my dissapointment in PS5's limp dik pathetic GPU but when both systems come out I'll get the better system since I am not a cuck fanboy.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Wut? I've been vocal about my dissapointment in PS5's limp dik pathetic GPU but when both systems come out I'll get the better system since I am not a cuck fanboy.
    I’m on to you. I know you’ve been chit talking PlayStation. You are voted off Island Sony. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
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    I'm always excited by hardware leaps. But a fast SSD is the least of my concerns when it comes to achieving 4k 60fps+ gaming...
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    Obviously they have a marketing deal. Sony paid Epic for the demo and to say nice things.

    Good move by Sony to build hype especially after that bad next gen first impression MS gave with those underwhelming 3rd party games with little gameplay.
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    I'll do what I do with every system.

    Wait and buy the 2nd gen version of whichever one has the best games (That means Playstation every time).

    Then eventually buy the latest version of Xbox from some guy on ebay to play the normally 1 single game I want to play that I can't get on my PC or PS.
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    This guy sounds like a marketing hype clown pushing misinformation.
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    This guy sounds like a marketing hype clown pushing misinformation.
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    I am buying PS5 for exclusives anyway but I never subscribe to pre-release hype. I only believe in numbers and what I see. Waiting for actual release.


    lol @ rip pc nerd race though, my PC will continue to poop on all consoles' capabilities combined for at least the next two generations.

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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    the tech in unreal 5 is game changing
    Yeah, and it was rendering at 1440p 'most of the time' on the ps5:

    "Interestingly, it does work very well with our dynamic resolution technique as well. So, when GPU load gets high we can lower the screen resolution a bit, and then we can adapt to that. In the Unreal Engine 5 demo we actually did use dynamic resolution, although it ends up rendering at about 1440p most of the time."

    Still waiting to see how PC's are at a disadvantage. And a 2070 Super seems to match the PS5 as well according to these interviews so..
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    Hope PS5 doesn't become another PS3 after Sony getting cocky with the PS4 like they were with the PS2. History repeats itself.

    PS3 was hyped a lot with the cell and what not... and turned out to be a PITA for developers for marginal graphical improvements over the 360. In fact it probably held back that generation graphically speaking and affecting gameplay as a side effect too.
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    Even though my plan is to get a PS5 day one, i'm considering whether there's any point to me getting one right now, especially if Sony dont have joocy exclusives in the launch window, if they dont, seems like it's a better idea to snag the PS5 pro and just get myself an RTX 3080 or 3070 when they release.
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    Ps5 looks really good. I'll definitely pick one up.

    But..

    The only thing driving future PCs is Nvidia.

    They're blazing a path to new heights with their graphics cards and AI.

    The 3080 Ti will be game changing.
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    Wut? I've been vocal about my dissapointment in PS5's limp dik pathetic GPU but when both systems come out I'll get the better system since I am not a cuck fanboy.
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    Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon View Post
    Obviously they have a marketing deal. Sony paid Epic for the demo and to say nice things.

    Good move by Sony to build hype especially after that bad next gen first impression MS gave with those underwhelming 3rd party games with little gameplay.
    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    This guy sounds like a marketing hype clown pushing misinformation.
    I actually think there is a lot of truth to this. I stand to be proven wrong and understand the potential advantage of what Sony has done with storage but until I see games take advantage of that in design layout and beyond raw loading times I much rather have the more powerful GPU in the XseX.
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    The whole point of consoles were to appeal to a more broader base of consumer who saw PC as nerd central and that still plays a big part in their appeal. PC had online advantage but consoles caught up as predicted.

    But to say PC will be outclassed and looking at consoles? lol. The only problem PCs have these days is most games are pinned to the console in terms of design philosophy and tech. You're telling me the latest AMD/NVidia cards backed with the latest Intel/AMD chipsets with good RAM and a lot of storage in a big case with adequate cooling will not outperform a console?

    nah.

    Consoles have way more $$$ thrown at them tho because they have a bigger consumer base.
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    Ps5 looks really good. I'll definitely pick one up.

    But..

    The only thing driving future PCs is Nvidia.

    They're blazing a path to new heights with their graphics cards and AI.

    The 3080 Ti will be game changing.

    Next gen consoles will impact PC games. PC games can only scale so much, the games are designed to the lowest common denominator and if you greatly increase the power of that lowest common denominator baseline, then the game will look much better.

    Its why native ps4 game like watchdog was a big leap over gta 5 that was a last gen game.
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    The 3080 Ti will be game changing.
    and also $2000
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    do people realize consoles are just computer components that can't be replaced
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    Clearly a lie. Does anyone actually believe this?
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    Can't wait for some actual games to be running on the Unreal 5 Engine. Getting the SeX box myself, but I like that Sony is going to drive the price down on those PCIe gen 4 SSD's. I'm just really curious if Sony is going to flat out copy MS and go with a cube design or if they stuck with something else.
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    Don't give a **** about consoles but UE5 looks hnng and i can't wait for games to come out built on UE5 for PC.

    I'm going to drop some cash on my PC for parts soon i think my 1080ti is fine for now, but i'm curious on how the 3000 series from nvidia benchmark and will prob jump up to an i9 in my next investment.
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    Sorry, but..no. If devs would optimize PC games as well as they do consoles, you'd already be seeing things on PC that would **** on that Unreal Engine 5 demo, but on PC...

    PC hardware that already exists is already ahead of next gen console specs. Sooo..not sure how a console that hasn't came out yet, that already has outdated hardware compared to what can be had for PC, is going to push anything for PC. lol.
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    This is like saying "PS3 Blu Ray will change pcs!"

    Okay it did, but its just a format. It has little to do with the actual system itself.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    Clearly a lie. Does anyone actually believe this?
    Never underestimate the pettiness and stupidity of fanboys.
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    Am I the only person who doesn't just completely cream his pants over 4K?

    Of course 4K is nice but people are acting like it's the be all and end all, as if it's the ONLY thing that matters in gaming if you're not running 4K @ 60 FPS then you're **** despite a multitude of other factors.

    You know what game looks absolutely INCREDIBLE? Anthem.
    You know what game sucks absolute balls? Anthem.
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