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    DHEA worth it?

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    Pretty confident this is a banned topic. I'd delete the thread.
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    Wow, why? Srs.
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Wow, why? Srs.
    Because it's a steroid hormone that is generally banned and this forum frowns upon discussing such things.

    From the rules sticky:

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    It's sold in the store so I think it's okay to discuss.

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    https://shared-search.bodybuilding.c...all&query=dhea
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    The fda hasn’t banned it nor is it a controlled substance
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    Pretty confident this is a banned topic. I'd delete the thread.
    Lmao! Considering the part of this site that actually makes the money to keep the forums up sells it, i highly doubt they wouldn’t want you to talk about it lol
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    Synthetic DHEA banned by FDA in 1985
    Banned by WADA - explicitly on their prohibited list.

    It's not available on the UK version of bb.com. I had to use a cached version of the page from the US site. If it's available on the US version then I guess it's OK...

    If you want my personal opinion, I would not touch something that could f*ck with your endocrine system. Commentary I've seen suggests that there is too little evidence of efficacy and (crucially) of long term adverse effects to declare it safe. Speaking strictly hypothetically, you may as well go more traditional non natty routes, at least they have a track record of know pros and cons.
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    Thank you for the comments above. I had absolutely no idea it was actually sold on this website. I just figured because it was a prohormone that there was absolutely no way we could talk about it, lol. The longer I stay on this forum the more confused I get about these types of things, haha. Reps to all (except TolerantLactose as you are on spread).
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    Thank you for the comments above. I had absolutely no idea it was actually sold on this website. I just figured because it was a prohormone that there was absolutely no way we could talk about it, lol. The longer I stay on this forum the more confused I get about these types of things, haha. Reps to all.
    Yes, it's tricky as a mod too. At one point they were selling a product which had "HGH" in the name - I closed a thread before realising it was 'legit'.

    The admins have told us that if it's legal is the majority of US states (e.g. ephedrine) then it's probably OK. If it's sold by bb.com then it definitely is.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Yes, it's tricky as a mod too. At one point they were selling a product which had "HGH" in the name - I closed a thread before realising it was 'legit'.

    The admins have told us that if it's legal is the majority of US states (e.g. ephedrine) then it's probably OK. If it's sold by bb.com then it definitely is.
    I think a lot of the DHEA products are more like boosters than the actual hormone but that’s just a guess, and in 2016-2017 the fda made it basically over the counter for menopause women, idk I was just googling interesting it can help the density in aging bones in women


    “Prasterone, also known as dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) and sold under the brand names Intrarosa, Diandrone, and Gynodian Depot among others, is a medication as well as over-the-counter dietary supplement which is used to correct DHEA deficiency due to adrenal insufficiency or old age, as a component of menopausal hormone therapy”


    And this
    “Prasterone is legal to sell in the United States as a dietary supplement. It is currently grandfathered in as an "Old Dietary Ingredient" being on sale prior to 1994. Prasterone is specifically exempted from the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990 and 2004.[66] It is banned from use in athletic competition.”

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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    What say you?
    If you're 40+ years of age probably. But even then.. not great. DHEA in the common form has minimal impact on hormones, and any increase will be so mild, the transient increase will yield little to no benefit. There are other forms of DHEA that may be worthwhile, but that discussion may be prohibited.

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    Pretty confident this is a banned topic. I'd delete the thread.
    DHEA is an OTC supplement contained in many supplements. It's the furthest thing from being banned =)
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    Thanks to all for the responses. It seems reasonable to then test for DHEA-s on one’s blood test before considering supplementation, no?
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Thanks to all for the responses. It seems reasonable to then test for DHEA-s on one’s blood test before considering supplementation, no?
    Anything OTC will have minimal impact in general. The older we get, the better OTC hormonal supplements are for quality of life increase through an increase in testosterone. If you're still in normal ranges, these transient fluctuations won't have much of an impact. If you're at the bottom end or below normal, the better these OTC supplements will work.

    Cost to benefit ratio is the way I analyze any supplement. Let's say you're on the low end or below normal ng/dL for your age. An OTC hormonal could net you better sleep which will impact training effectiveness which should translate in to better progress. Said hormonal can increase strength and power in the gym slightly which should translate in to better lean tissue accrual. But at the end of the day you need to be doing things correctly: proper training regimen and proper dieting for your goals. And as you said, if you don't get a full hormone panel to see where you're at.. you're likely just throwing money around.
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    If over 40 and closer to 50, yes.
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