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    Unreal Engine 5 tech demo running on Playstation 5





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    But cottdamn, i am so excited for the next gen consoles and the advancements it'll bring.
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    When a tech demo from a third party company showcases next gen much better than the company that's actually making the next gen console ... oh hi microsoft
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    looks sick but no games will look like that. the unreal engine 3 tech demo still looks better than most games today.

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    Originally Posted by stfudonny View Post
    looks sick but no games will look like that. the unreal engine 3 tech demo still looks better than most games today.



    wat ... That looks like a ps4 launch title






    RDR2 , Detroit becomes human, Horizon, FF7 completely chits all over that video (ok maybe that video has better bg textures than FF7 but still).
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    I think we're getting to the point of diminishing returns and the focus should be on actually achieving a level of detail worth playing instead of constantly focusing on touting 4k60fps.

    An example of what I mean:




    I would take the left image at 1080p/60fps over the right image at 4k/60 (or less)
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    Apparently the demo is running at 1440p/30fps on PS5. yikes..
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    Tech demos are not actual gameplay.

    Gameplay will absolutely not look that good. We go through this every generation
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    Originally Posted by stfudonny View Post
    looks sick but no games will look like that. the unreal engine 3 tech demo still looks better than most games today.

    Wat

    Tons of games today look better than that

    like the other poster said, that looks like a PS4/Xbox One launch title at max settings

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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Tech demos are not actual gameplay.

    Gameplay will absolutely not look that good. We go through this every generation
    it is gameplay tho, since its a playable demo. probably will be avaible the same way UE4s debut demo was.
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    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney says the PS5 is so impressive it’s ‘going to help drive future PCs’

    During a press briefing for the company’s newly announced Unreal Engine 5, which is optimized to work with next-gen consoles, Sweeney says the PS5 is a “remarkably balanced device.”

    “THE STORAGE ARCHITECTURE ON THE PS5 IS FAR AHEAD OF ANYTHING YOU CAN BUY ON ANYTHING ON PC.”

    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Tech demos are not actual gameplay.

    Gameplay will absolutely not look that good. We go through this every generation
    People keep saying this was a tech demo playable on PS5 for GDC/E3
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    Originally Posted by dcbone30 View Post
    I think we're getting to the point of diminishing returns and the focus should be on actually achieving a level of detail worth playing instead of constantly focusing on touting 4k60fps.

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    I would take the left image at 1080p/60fps over the right image at 4k/60 (or less)
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    Looks great but will drive up development costs at the price of other things, like fun innovative game play and risk taking
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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Tech demos are not actual gameplay.

    Gameplay will absolutely not look that good. We go through this every generation
    Jakes on you. This was the tech demo before the ps4 was launched.



    Now, a few years later, compare that to my personal favorite ps4 exclusive:




    They have exceeded the tech demo by far, and I'm sure the same will be done on ps5.
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    Last week AC Valhalla said to only run 4k/30fps on SX-- fans lose their shet and turn into a mob with pitchforks

    Epic releases demo that runs even lower resolution at 1440p/30fps on PS5 --omg it's so beautiful, look how powerful PS5 is

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    Originally Posted by J3remy View Post
    Looks great but will drive up development costs at the price of other things, like fun innovative game play and risk taking
    I'm a game developer I work with Unreal everyday. If what they are saying is true then the new engine should drastically reduce development time and cost because artists will not need to focus on optimization which takes just as long as making the art itself.

    Also by being able to import raw scanned photogammatry models, you could literally scan a model in real life with your phone put it into the reality capture software that spits out the 3D model and textures, and throw it in the engine without any optimization work. This feature alone should speed up development time x2 if not more.
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    Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon View Post
    Last week AC Valhalla said to only run 4k/30fps on SX-- fans lose their shet and turn into a mob with pitchforks

    Epic releases demo that runs even lower resolution at 1440p/30fps on PS5 --omg it's so beautiful, look how powerful PS5 is

    No bias to see here
    Well, to be fair, the Assassin's Creed trailer contained only cutscenes which don't even look next Gen while the PS5's tech demo was actual gameplay which certainly looks next gen.

    I could understand why it's upsetting to be an Xbox fan and expecting/boasting about how the Xbox is much superior to PS5.... Meanwhile you got a bunch of games shown on Xbox and not a single one of them looked better than a single tech demo on PS5. I'd be upset if I was someone arguing about power for weeks but it's a good thing I told people to focus on the games because good exclusives and good games is what really matters.
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    Cool I guess but it's just a tech demo meant to show off graphics, PC has this stuff all the time and it can be even more impressive. Thing is this isn't a functioning game or anything so it doesn't really mean much until we see actual games.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    People keep saying this was a tech demo playable on PS5 for GDC/E3
    I already responded to you in your other thread about this:

    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    Yeah, and it was rendering at 1440p 'most of the time' on the ps5:

    "Interestingly, it does work very well with our dynamic resolution technique as well. So, when GPU load gets high we can lower the screen resolution a bit, and then we can adapt to that. In the Unreal Engine 5 demo we actually did use dynamic resolution, although it ends up rendering at about 1440p most of the time."

    Still waiting to see how PC's are at a disadvantage. And a 2070 Super seems to match the PS5 as well according to these interviews so..
    Please note: I'm not into 'lol pc vs lol console' chit as I see the merits of both. But this rhetoric that the PS5's 'storage' will be a gamechanger for PCs is nonsensical. Once you go SSD that is the game changer in terms of load times already. The rest is predominantly GPU power...

    And since the PS5 caps out at a 2070 you can't seriously expect that it'll match PC graphical fidelity, can you? Whether the difference is 'worth it' is a completely separate discussion.
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    I already responded to you in your other thread about this:



    Please note: I'm not into 'lol pc vs lol console' chit as I see the merits of both. But this rhetoric that the PS5's 'storage' will be a gamechanger for PCs is nonsensical. Once you go SSD that is the game changer in terms of load times already. The rest is predominantly GPU power...

    And since the PS5 caps out at a 2070 you can't seriously expect that it'll match PC graphical fidelity, can you? Whether the difference is 'worth it' is a completely separate discussion.
    Yeah I have a hard time believing the PS5 storage is going to be a revolution over M2 storage on PC's. My M2 storage already loads games, downloads, and installs nearly instantly.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Well, to be fair, the Assassin's Creed trailer contained only cutscenes which don't even look next Gen while the PS5's tech demo was actual gameplay which certainly looks next gen.

    I could understand why it's upsetting to be an Xbox fan and expecting/boasting about how the Xbox is much superior to PS5.... Meanwhile you got a bunch of games shown on Xbox and not a single one of them looked better than a single tech demo on PS5. I'd be upset if I was someone arguing about power for weeks but it's a good thing I told people to focus on the games because good exclusives and good games is what really matters.
    Are you talking about me? I own a PS4 and will own a PS5 as well as Xbox consoles. I have a vested interest in both being the best they can be. SX is in fact more powerful and nobody has denied that. There's also nothing in the Unreal demo that the SX is not capable of and you can take Epic at their own word regarding that. I admitted their 3d party showing was unremarkable but many of those games are also going to be on PS5 and guess what.. look worse for it.

    I wouldn't say AC cutscenes don't look next gen, however the gameplay certainly won't. Regardless my post was to point out the hypocrisy of people complaining about it being 30fps on SX (and ignore it will be the same on PS5) but then praise Sony for a paid for tech demo and ignore that they couldn't even get to run at 4k/60fps which should be the standard next gen.
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    Unless theyre selling these machines at a huge loss, the only people saying these are better than pc are delusional fanboys... It happens every generation
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    I'm more worried they think these consoles are going to sell well on top of the services and more expensive games in a post-lockdown world thanks to economic hardship.

    The mass market could very well change and wont favour such consumerism. We could see higher quality games tho.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Yeah I have a hard time believing the PS5 storage is going to be a revolution over M2 storage on PC's. My M2 storage already loads games, downloads, and installs nearly instantly.
    I mean, PS4 users who have been on HDD all this time will see a paradigm shift with a PS5 SSD.

    But for people like us...I mean I'm happy with my Samsung 970 Pro M2 on an X570.

    I was hoping that consoles would trash current gen for a true PC hardware paradigm shift with Ampere...but maybe we will have to wait for Hopper and 5nm :/
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    I think some are way overblowing the storage tech for meaning more than playing games than it does but just LoL@ the PC Nerds who are retarded or coping so hard they don't even realize the tech simply isn't available on PC yet.
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    I mean, PS4 users who have been on HDD all this time will see a paradigm shift with a PS5 SSD.

    But for people like us...I mean I'm happy with my Samsung 970 Pro M2 on an X570.

    I was hoping that consoles would trash current gen for a true PC hardware paradigm shift with Ampere...but maybe we will have to wait for Hopper and 5nm :/
    Personally I think storage capacity is going to be a big issue. Games next gen should be topping over 100GB on average for something AAA and I doubt some fancy SSD solution is going to be massive on storage. I know external hard drives with big capacity have been a real savior for me this gen, and if next gen consoles are reliant upon special high speed drives it's going to make storage expansion very expensive if not impossible depending upon how they handle it. They might just do backups to an external drives but that is pretty much how discs have been handled this gen.

    Anyway you put it this leaves some considerable doubt as to how good these launch consoles are gonna be. Just another reason to hold off and get a revised console down the line.
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    Originally Posted by ArtistBrahs View Post
    I'm a game developer I work with Unreal everyday. If what they are saying is true then the new engine should drastically reduce development time and cost because artists will not need to focus on optimization which takes just as long as making the art itself.

    Also by being able to import raw scanned photogammatry models, you could literally scan a model in real life with your phone put it into the reality capture software that spits out the 3D model and textures, and throw it in the engine without any optimization work. This feature alone should speed up development time x2 if not more.
    Thanks for that, sounds like a great improvement then
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    I think some are way overblowing the storage tech for meaning more than playing games than it does but just LoL@ the PC Nerds who are retarded or coping so hard they don't even realize the tech simply isn't available on PC yet.
    "Tech simply isn't available"? The PS5 is going to use something in the area of the Samsung 970 Pro M2 I have, perhaps a 980 Evo equivalent on PCI-E 4.0 which again, I have...which tech 'isn't available yet'? Plenty of PS4 players have been on HDD all this time...they'll be the ones benefiting from this. That's about it. In all honesty your posts reek of chit posting / trolling...

    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Personally I think storage capacity is going to be a big issue. Games next gen should be topping over 100GB on average for something AAA and I doubt some fancy SSD solution is going to be massive on storage. I know external hard drives with big capacity have been a real savior for me this gen, and if next gen consoles are reliant upon special high speed drives it's going to make storage expansion very expensive if not impossible depending upon how they handle it. They might just do backups to an external drives but that is pretty much how discs have been handled this gen.

    Anyway you put it this leaves some considerable doubt as to how good these launch consoles are gonna be. Just another reason to hold off and get a revised console down the line.
    To keep costs down the PS5 probably won't have a 'pro' line, more an EVO, and I'd guess there will be a 2TB option. I don't tend to keep long lists of games installed (normally uninstall after finishing then reinstall for an expansion etc), and I have a lot more than 2TB of ssd space.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Yeah I have a hard time believing the PS5 storage is going to be a revolution over M2 storage on PC's.
    It won't. The only people who's mind will be blown by the PS5 load times are....people who have only ever played consoles. lol
    Anyone who has had a PC with an SSD for the last, what 8 ****ing years at least, will not notice anything extraordinary.
    Once you get passed basic mid range SSD read/write speeds, it gets suuuuper hard to notice any more performance unless you do a lot of really large file transfers. As far as game load times...you can't notice a difference.
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