Are protein shakes part of my water intake?

[shawn2020]

If I need to drink 130 oz of water a day .. and i drink 3 10 oz protein shakes... do i only need to drink 100 more oz of water?
I ask because its not pure water, its diluted, soda can dehydrate you, etc.


Are protein shakes part of my water intake or is that 130 oz referring to strictly undiluted water ?

[elliot3394]

you should keep water intake separate from protein intake. it's easier and plus, more water never hurt anyone. it's always good to flush the system, not to mention is helps you digest food more efficiently

[shawn2020]

more water never hurt anyone

yeah until reality sets in and youre so full from water you cant hit your macro nutrients for the day

[AdamWW]

you should keep water intake separate from protein intake. it's easier and plus, more water never hurt anyone. it's always good to flush the system, not to mention is helps you digest food more efficiently

The shake literally contains water, and diluting your stomach acid doesn’t help food digest while it’s in your stomach

[SuffolkPunch]

Part of the reason that the old advice to drink large amounts of water everyday was rejected was because it was based on an erroneous study which did NOT include all the water contained in our food. Hence the updated recommendations: to drink 1 glass of water with each meal - and then again when you feel thirsty.

Yes, water from food and shakes counts. Your body will work as hard as it needs to in order to extract the water required. Usually this isn't a problem if you follow the guidance mentioned above.

There is no benefit to drinking lots more than this and it could have downsides if pushed too far.

[SuffolkPunch]

plus, more water never hurt anyone.

Not actually true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...hon_fatalities

The second major risk arises from imbalanced fluid or electrolyte levels, particularly hyponatremia (sodium deficiency, overhydration, or water intoxication).

[TolerantLactose]

yeah until reality sets in and youre so full from water you cant hit your macro nutrients for the day

You have these things called kidneys.

[shawn2020]

Part of the reason that the old advice to drink large amounts of water everyday was rejected was because it was based on an erroneous study which did NOT include all the water contained in our food. Hence the updated recommendations: to drink 1 glass of water with each meal - and then again when you feel thirsty.

Yes, water from food and shakes counts. Your body will work as hard as it needs to in order to extract the water required. Usually this isn't a problem if you follow the guidance mentioned above.

There is no benefit to drinking lots more than this and it could have downsides if pushed too far.

I have a big problem with what youve just said.... dont drink until youre thirsty ? By the time youre thirsty youre already dehydrated.

you should be proactive with your nutrition not reactive

[SuffolkPunch]

I have a big problem with what youve just said.... dont drink until youre thirsty ? By the time youre thirsty youre already dehydrated.

you should be proactive with your nutrition not reactive

That's another myth. This could apply in cases where you are doing some long duration endurance training in a hot climate - but for most people, your body is smarter than you give it credit for.

If you have a glass of water with every meal, chances are you won't feel thirsty very often in any case.

[TolerantLactose]

until reality sets in

I have a big problem with what youve just said....

You're stressing out a little too much about this.

[shawn2020]

You're stressing out a little too much about this.

not really stressing just trying to get to the bottom of the issue.

man ive been working my ass off for two weeks and eating and drinking perfectly and i look exactly the ****ing same

[TolerantLactose]

not really stressing just trying to get to the bottom of the issue.

man ive been working my ass off for two weeks and eating and drinking perfectly and i look exactly the ****ing same

2 weeks....

I stand by what I said. In fact, I'm more convinced.

[shawn2020]

god forbid my fitness be important to me

[TolerantLactose]

Get over yourself. Min-maxing, eyeballing all the minutiae isn't doing you the good you think it does. Working out and eating and drinking "perfectly" for 2 weeks is nothing.

[shawn2020]

Get over yourself. Min-maxing, eyeballing all the minutiae isn't doing you the good you think it does. Working out and eating and drinking "perfectly" for 2 weeks is nothing.

2 weeks is a ****load of time on diet. I could have lost 6-7 pounds by now and summer time wont last forever dude
I dont want to work my ass off and be drenched in sweat and want to throw up every single day just to look exactly the ****ing same when i could be dieting and getting better looking instead

[faithbrah]

2 weeks is a ****load of time on diet. I could have lost 6-7 pounds by now and summer time wont last forever dude
I dont want to work my ass off and be drenched in sweat and want to throw up every single day just to look exactly the ****ing same when i could be dieting and getting better looking instead

6-7 pounds in two weeks...? you're starting a bit too late if you want to look "good" for summer, give it another year or so

what are you talking about anyway? if you work your ass off, you'll eventually look better. do you think the "perfect" water intake and diet is going to produce more results than actual training? you'd be surprised if you knew how little "perfection" you really need for your diet if you train right

[shawn2020]

6-7 pounds in two weeks...? you're starting a bit too late if you want to look "good" for summer, give it another year or so

what are you talking about anyway? if you work your ass off, you'll eventually look better. do you think the "perfect" water intake and diet is going to produce more results than actual training? you'd be surprised if you knew how little "perfection" you really need for your diet if you train right

woah more results than actual training ??? I AM ACTUALLY TRAINING what are you talking about
I am drenched in sweat every day, and i want to lose 18 lbs in 3 months so at least there is a LITTLE bit of summer left for me to enjoy without a flabby belly

[Bigdumogre]

2 weeks is a ****load of time on diet. I could have lost 6-7 pounds by now and summer time wont last forever dude
I dont want to work my ass off and be drenched in sweat and want to throw up every single day just to look exactly the ****ing same when i could be dieting and getting better looking instead

Why are you pushing yourself that far when you don’t have too? Losing weight is 90+% diet, unless you are a elite athlete and can out train a bad diet.

[Bigdumogre]

woah more results than actual training ??? I AM ACTUALLY TRAINING what are you talking about
I am drenched in sweat every day, and i want to lose 18 lbs in 3 months so at least there is a LITTLE bit of summer left for me to enjoy without a flabby belly

Sweat does not equal work all the time. Some people are heavy sweaters while others are not.

What’s your starting stats - height weight age training experience?

[shawn2020]

Sweat does not equal work all the time. Some people are heavy sweaters while others are not.

What’s your starting stats - height weight age training experience?

I'm actually one of the least sweaty people youll ever meet. and i'm 37 and still dont have chest hair. just working my ****ing ass off
pushing myself hard because i thought thats how you get results

stats are 6'3" 190lbs 22% bodyfat and no training for many years. joined the gym in february but I was just counting to 10 on sets, not working very hard or eating much protein back in feb/march/april

[faithbrah]

woah more results than actual training ??? I AM ACTUALLY TRAINING what are you talking about
I am drenched in sweat every day, and i want to lose 18 lbs in 3 months so at least there is a LITTLE bit of summer left for me to enjoy without a flabby belly

okay so now we have more context. you want to lose weight - eat in a caloric deficit and make sure you're getting enough proteins and fats. you kinda proved my point too, there's no way you can sustain this perfect diet if you're getting impatient after two weeks

the guy above me said that losing weight is 90+% diet and he's right, just eat the right amount of calories and have your macros in check

[shawn2020]

okay so now we have more context. you want to lose weight - eat in a caloric deficit and make sure you're getting enough proteins and fats. you kinda proved my point too, there's no way you can sustain this perfect diet if you're getting impatient after two weeks

the guy above me said that losing weight is 90+% diet and he's right, just eat the right amount of calories and have your macros in check

I can sustain the diet but bro there is going to be a HUGE tinder boom when the state opens back up and people can travel around and **** again
I dont want to miss out on it

bitches want a chiseled jaw line and i have chipmunk cheeks. been eating 1900 calories/day

[faithbrah]

I can sustain the diet but bro there is going to be a HUGE tinder boom when the state opens back up and people can travel around and **** again
I dont want to miss out on it

bitches want a chiseled jaw line and i have chipmunk cheeks. been eating 1900 calories/day

not really a nutritional post but i need to say this: while a low bf% might make your face a bit more attractive, you should not have this "no chiseled jawline = no chicks" mindset. if you're meant to get chicks, you'll get them without that jaw definition

even if you did need that definition to get girls, you can only do so much in this time frame, and no perfect diet is going to transform you any faster than a normal diet. eat like a normal person (don't try to perfect your diet) and hope for the best

[Jcart159]

Don't eat the troll bread.

[SubWooferCooker]

Drink when thirsty.

[Nedo]

I can sustain the diet but bro there is going to be a HUGE tinder boom when the state opens back up and people can travel around and **** again
I dont want to miss out on it

bitches want a chiseled jaw line and i have chipmunk cheeks. been eating 1900 calories/day

Stop being so insecure and fix your head. Progress takes persistence and time.

You are doing something wrong if you feel like chit everyday. Either overtraining or perhaps malnutrition depending on the quality of your diet.

The stress you seem to be putting on yourself ain’t helping your metabolism and hormones either, relax.

[shawn2020]

The stress you seem to be putting on yourself ain’t helping your metabolism and hormones either, relax.

there are days i was light on calories and i would eat before bed to hit 1900, etc i am going to stop that now and increase my exercise, increase my fat loss first
then lean bulk later

[Garage Rat]

I would count it as such if you use say water from like a gallon jug or something.

[MrCarrot]

Must admit I'm somewhat fanatical about tracking macros and calories, but I don't track water intake. I'm not sure why it would be required? Personally I drink water with each meal, when working out, and if thirsty. I might throw in a little more water if I have a meal with more salt in than usual.

[shawn2020]

Must admit I'm somewhat fanatical about tracking macros and calories, but I don't track water intake. I'm not sure why it would be required? Personally I drink water with each meal, when working out, and if thirsty. I might throw in a little more water if I have a meal with more salt in than usual.

Your body is mostly water. Muscle is mostly water. IDK man i just listen to the few ppl i trust and athleanx said being hydrated helps build muscle and the first thing he does every morning is drink 2 glasses of water just to get started on his hydration.