trolling aside, does online dating work for average guys??

[imbored21]

average guy

or



I mean for getting a nonfat girlfriend. Obviously these guys can go whale watching.

I don't really get it but I have no success on these and it's really annoying because when I say I'm single girls are always like "you should try tinder." I'm like it doesn't work for me and then they're like "try bumble."

And then there are old guys who are like "if I had tinder back in my day, I'd be going on dates all the time."

On a literally prostitute website a guy told "get off this site and download tinder. This hobby is for old guys like me. If I was your age I'd be on all the dating apps."

It gets really annoying. Like I try these apps and don't have any success. What percentage of men even have success on these apps? Is the 80-20 true or just a meme? Whenever I hear about someone in real life talk about getting a relationship off online dating, it's usually some fat single mom. Most young girls just joke about it and say it's trash and full of ****boys (chads pumping and dumping them lol). I've never actually met a guy who met his girlfriend off of tinder.

[Dale1988]

Mostly online dating is a good way to meet mega sloots or girls with mental health issues or whales. Many of which are hot.

Think of it this way, do you want to sya you met your wife on tinder or online? I didnt think so so unless your looking for hookups look elsewhere. Grow some balls and ask girls out in real life and leave your house. I wish I did this years ago but low confidence. But tinder is still fun to meet new girls. Need to be good looking though or dont bother.

[inb4everything]

I'd say I'm pretty average as well brah...maybe a bit decent looking but let's say average with decent pics though. OLD is hit or miss with majority being miss.

I've also had people tell me IRL I'm a catch and am good looking and have a Masters engineering am successful etc blah blah and should try online dating and get a date there. Lmao...you can't be average guy online to make it work. So then what's an average dude to do? Beats me man outside of travelmaxxing.

[LordLuck]

No. The Data proves it. Anecdotes prove it.

Guys better looking than that struggle for scraps online in 2020.

[stonesfan99]

I don't think it works for anyone.

[rikugunchusa]

it definately isnt easy for guys as it is for women, but its straight up cope to say it doesn't work for everyone. I know pretty of guys who slay on it and guys that can't get anything, and the latter is the minority (this isn't directed to anyone btw)

[Liberal3lite]

I've matched with plenty of cute girls on Tinder with ****ty selfie pics and I'm definitely not a model. However, none of them have messaged me and I haven't bothered to initiate any conversations with them.

I'm on Bumble right now and I got 7 matches on there the first few days but none of them messaged me and guys can't start conversations. However, after those first few days, I have received no new matches or even likes for about a week now...

[ocelo7]

Either im not average, or it is pretty easy. Definitely harder in 2020 cuz all the apps algorithms are screwed up, plus most girls use it for attention. However it was like shooting fish in a barrel for years (2013-2016).

[sunsean]

Your question is flawed OP. You're essentially saying can ugly guys get hot girls on tinder? Obviously that's a no, generally speaking. OLD is a visual medium, why would a hottie swipe right on an unattractive bloke?

I guarantee you you can find someone who isn't a fatty, but they're probably not going to be 8s or 9s either. Temper your expectations, that's the best advice I can give.

As to apps/sites, I think Tinder is essentially useless these days. Too much spam and bots and sketchy profiles. I've had better luck with Bumble lately.

[anonymous]

We've answered this question a thousand times. No.

[Gosu14]

I'm pretty average and I've run through a ton of bishes on these things

[guest89]

Yes it can work for hookups and for relationships. But I'd be skeptical about the kind of girl she is in either case.


IMO for an 'average' guy its easier to meet females IRL.

[Liberal3lite]

People keep talking about the trashy apps like Tinder. But what about the more serious sites, like ChristianMingle? Do average guys have good luck finding loyal women on there that are marriage material and don't weigh 300 pounds?

[inb4everything]

People keep talking about the trashy apps like Tinder. But what about the more serious sites, like ChristianMingle? Do average guys have good luck finding loyal women on there that are marriage material and don't weigh 300 pounds?

I've been on those religious sites as well. It works if you want a 30 year old women desperate to marry. Also being white is a bigger premium than on Tinder/Hinge etc (represents stability and LTR material lol).

[skinnyfat88]

1. Your pics have to be on point. Profile pic of you looking your best (no selfies). Other pics a combo of you looking good again solo, doing something cool solo, looking good within a group (of people that look "fun/successful"). Probably at least 2 of the ladder so your social circle looks legit.

2. Don't write too much. Keep it casual but interesting and witty. A few bullet points of a few words each is solid.

As for the talking part, read some books + trial and error. Generally just don't waste dozens of messages back and forth before getting their # and agreeing to a date.

[cavillac]

The simple answer is generally no.

I have 400 matches on tinder but dating is womans market these days. I don't message any of them first, I figure their inbox is getting blown up constantly and if they like me they'll let me know about it. Even when girls take the time to message me first they still exude near zero presence of any personality and cant even carry their end of a conversation.

My end goal is to meet in person, and girls that are willing to do that are very rare. I figure its most likely because they cant wear the the filters they have on all their pictures in real life. More nowadays then ever I am valuing my free time, having money do actually be able to do fun stuff is a godsend because I'd rather enjoy the time I have to use the the things I have than beg girls to go out with me.

[randomuser12345]

^
100% correct
99% women that shows interest and probably gonna make it to date are those who message 1st. Doesn't matter why, mb she likes your beard mb you look alike her school crush.
When you message 1st it's only works with women significantly lower than your league, otherwise you get lost in dms, or she already dealing with few better options and won't pay you attention etc.
Surely there're always exceptions.

[rikugunchusa]

idk about all that, every girl I smashed from OLD I messaged first with the exception of bumble sloots.
This goes for the lays who were well above my league (imo) also

[TheOriginalBIG]

90% of the guys I know have gotten laid using a dating app at least once - the most attractive dudes get the most action obviously, but if you're not getting any dates, you need to work on your profile and your banter OP.

I've noticed that it's been harder to get dates over the last few months though, even before the pandemic, anyone else notice this too?

[Jms89]

I get action all the time off apps. If you aren't socially retarded, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Key is to always encourage meeting in person ASAP. I have met plenty even during the so called pandemic..it might even be easier since they are all bored and seeking validation they are used to getting at the office, the store, the gym, etc. Women are craving that right now. Go to a park, keep it casual. Girls can easily put up a shield online and act like badasses but when you get them in person 9/10 they look much worse than their filtered pics. The key is to get them in person where they are most vulnerable.

[randomuser12345]

action as dates or as closing the deal. Getting a date is hard but not impossible. Tho for male it's only a step on the road to getting laid. And that's where it's getting tricky.

I put up some statistic about my last month tinder attempt. I consider myself above average looking guy that takes care about appearance like 7.5\10 give or take. 5'10''. Own place, good job, no car.

first message from girls: 5
first message from me: 49

answered: 29
ignored: 20

more than 5 messages: 16 + 3 that messaged me 1st
least than 5 messages: 13 + 2 that messaged me 1st

conversation died: 15
agreed on date: 2 + 2 that messaged me 1st

canceled without suggesting another date: 1
actuall dates: 1 + 2 that messaged me 1st

and those girls are 6\10, mb one 7\10 at best.

closed deal: 0 so far

So yeah, it's hard.

I tried being witty, being boring, being anything. It does not matter. If girl made second look at your photos and decided that you deserve to be ignored or 1 word/emoji reply no emmount of wit can make her to date you. Just how it is.

[inb4everything]

action as dates or as closing the deal. Getting a date is hard but not impossible. Tho for male it's only a step on the road to getting laid. And that's where it's getting tricky.

I put up some statistic about my last month tinder attempt. I consider myself above average looking guy that takes care about appearance like 7.5\10 give or take. 5'10''. Own place, good job, no car.

first message from girls: 5
first message from me: 49

answered: 29
ignored: 20

more than 5 messages: 16 + 3 that messaged me 1st
least than 5 messages: 13 + 2 that messaged me 1st

conversation died: 15
agreed on date: 2 + 2 that messaged me 1st

canceled without suggesting another date: 1
actuall dates: 1 + 2 that messaged me 1st

closed deal: 0 so far

So yeah, it's not easy

Dang. Age and age range you go for?

[randomuser12345]

Dang. Age and age range you go for?

29
going with 25 at the app. 20-30 range. Around 900 000 city.

Girls nowadays have ultimate abundance mentality. Can't blame them, if 30 new girls would text me every day i'd be the same.

[inb4everything]

29
going with 25 at the app. 20-30 range. Around 900 000 city.

Girls nowadays have ultimate abundance mentality. Can't blame them, if 30 new girls would text me every day i'd be the same.

Lol I guess significantly less results as age 29? I know young western women dont like to stray too much from their age.

[randomuser12345]

i'm russian
Well i don't think it would hurt really bad since results aren't something special already. 2 years ago when i started and set age at 27 i could date 22-23 y.o. girls just fine.

I did it mostly for 18-19 girls but in 2 years i didn't manage to pull even single one of those on a date. And only few 20-21. They are all talks and flakes. So now i don't even bother to match with girls that young.

I just can't consider a date as a success. Girl just can be bored and want to chit-chat and then come back and suck on som1s cock.

[Mercworx]

Worked for me. So id say yes.

[Liberal3lite]

i'm russian
Well i don't think it would hurt really bad since results aren't something special already. 2 years ago when i started and set age at 27 i could date 22-23 y.o. girls just fine.

I did it mostly for 18-19 girls but in 2 years i didn't manage to pull even single one of those on a date. And only few 20-21. They are all talks and flakes. So now i don't even bother to match with girls that young.

I just can't consider a date as a success. Girl just can be bored and want to chit-chat and then come back and suck on som1s cock.

Really easy to get laid in Russia if you're West Asian, Central Asian or even East Asian.

[BigBallsMcgee]

no

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[Gurgy]

I get action all the time off apps. If you aren't socially retarded, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Key is to always encourage meeting in person ASAP I have met plenty even during the so called pandemic..it might even be easier since they are all bored and seeking validation they are used to getting at the office, the store, the gym, etc. Women are craving that right now. Go to a park, keep it casual. Girls can easily put up a shield online and act like badasses but when you get them in person 9/10 they look much worse than their filtered pics. The key is to get them in person where they are most vulnerable.

This. Meet ASAP or they will lose interest fast or have another guy swoop in who will. Not even sloots want to be pen pals

[user3657]

I did meet a few down to earth chicks 5+ years ago off OKC. but sites like tinder/bumble...I consider them hookup apps. If you want an easy hookup just go to a club and just find some slutty girl who wants to cheat on her BF because he cheated on her. Its women logic bro.