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    Why don't younger lifters do the negative part of the deadlift?

    I'm watching all the videos of younger people(not all, some older) getting kicked out of the gym for deadlifting loudly. That's another argument for another day, but I was wondering why they lift, then kind of collapse from the top, reset, and lift again. I've always deadlifted in a constant flow, like as soon as the weight touches the ground it's going back up, is it being taught differently nowadays?
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    Originally Posted by nikeoneplatinum View Post
    I'm watching all the videos of younger people(not all, some older) getting kicked out of the gym for deadlifting loudly. That's another argument for another day, but I was wondering why they lift, then kind of collapse from the top, reset, and lift again. I've always deadlifted in a constant flow, like as soon as the weight touches the ground it's going back up, is it being taught differently nowadays?
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    Originally Posted by nikeoneplatinum View Post
    I'm watching all the videos of younger people(not all, some older) getting kicked out of the gym for deadlifting loudly. That's another argument for another day, but I was wondering why they lift, then kind of collapse from the top, reset, and lift again. I've always deadlifted in a constant flow, like as soon as the weight touches the ground it's going back up, is it being taught differently nowadays?
    Likely kids ego lifting more than they can handle. Use everything they've got for the first part of the lift...then drop it rather than finish it out.
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    If you can’t control the eccentric, the weight is too heavy for you. Dropping the weight from the top is obnoxious as hell.

    It is even worse when they start yelling YEAH and WOOOO after lifting 2 plates to get attention. Brah....I warm up with that....
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    Man, if only the getting kicked out part applied here.
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    Originally Posted by nikeoneplatinum View Post
    I'm watching all the videos of younger people(not all, some older) getting kicked out of the gym for deadlifting loudly. That's another argument for another day, but I was wondering why they lift, then kind of collapse from the top, reset, and lift again. I've always deadlifted in a constant flow, like as soon as the weight touches the ground it's going back up, is it being taught differently nowadays?
    What I took from this post is that you only do touch and go deadlifts, so now I'm wondering why the fuk you think you are qualified to judge anyone.
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    Originally Posted by caravanbrah View Post
    What I took from this post is that you only do touch and go deadlifts, so now I'm wondering why the fuk you think you are qualified to judge anyone.
    ^This. OP, you're equating dropping the bar on the negative to re-setting at the bottom before you lift again. One is bad, the other is good.
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    They probably read that some powerlifters don't have to lower the bar slowly (but still should be under control). Having said that, if hypertrophy is your goal then the eccentric is a beneficial part of the movement - and of course there is no reason to ever disobey the local rules of a gym. If an elite powerlifter was training there, I'm sure they would be completely happy to train by controlling the eccentric.
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    At the gym I go to, a lot of people do this. But they have deadlift stations where the floor is reinforced with plywood and rubber, so they seem to expect it. However it is a powerlifting/strongman type gym.
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    There's a difference between a controlled drop and recklessly letting the bar fall. A controlled drop should be acceptable in general, at least, it's IPF standard. Recklessly dropping the bar is another matter. Both are noisy, but the controlled drop is (or should be) a lot less annoying.
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    Considering people drop snatches and clean and jerks on the same platforms if its a proper gym. I don't see the issue if using an appropriate platform.

    If your gym doesn't have platforms you can drop weightlifting lifts from its not much of a gym..

    I just control the Eccentric personally, but not so much its a rep, and I certainly reset each rep. Every set of deadlift are multiple singles.
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    From what I've seen, it's mostly about making noise to be conspicuous.
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    Everyone will have their own reasons why.
    For powerlifters there is little evidence that the eccentric/negative has music benefit in helping you get stronger on the deadlift.
    Vince Anello a great deadlifted did some experimentation with slow negatives having his training partners help him lift the weight then he slowly went down on the negative.
    His conclusion for him after a period of time working with them were that they didn't help him gain anything weight wise.
    I'm sure there may be some type of benefit maybe a muscle building one but not strength in this case.
    Why the kids drop weight from standing i don't know.
    I always come down fast but under some kind of control holding the bar.
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    Originally Posted by Garage Rat View Post
    Everyone will have their own reasons why.
    For powerlifters there is little evidence that the eccentric/negative has music benefit in helping you get stronger on the deadlift.
    Vince Anello a great deadlifted did some experimentation with slow negatives having his training partners help him lift the weight then he slowly went down on the negative.
    His conclusion for him after a period of time working with them were that they didn't help him gain anything weight wise.
    I'm sure there may be some type of benefit maybe a muscle building one but not strength in this case.
    Why the kids drop weight from standing i don't know.
    I always come down fast but under some kind of control holding the bar.
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    The eccentric part of the deadlift isn’t much of an eccentric at all. There are better ways to build muscle mass on the posterior chain, such as:

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    They probably think that dropping the weight is cool, alpha, tough, etc. Other times it could be that the person really can't handle controlling the eccentric, because they're too wiped out from the concentric part of the rep. They just aren't built up enough because they got ahead of themselves and added too much weight too quickly. Deadlift is very effective at developing many parts of the body, but unfortunately it attracts a lot of clowns who don't know how to use it, perform it, and as a result end up hurting themselves.
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    Cuz my goal is to lift a bunch of weight, not slowly lower a bunch of weight. IDGAF how slow or fast it goes down, and since I don't lift at planet fitness, neither does anyone else. I hold on on the way down just cuz I can keep my hands on the bar for another rep. I'm not using deadlift to build maximum mass, I'm using deadlift to get good at deadlift cuz it's fun to lift all that weight for a max effort. For mass training I do RDL and squats.
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